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/ag/&/am/: audio general & audiophile memes
Christopher Jackson
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Jackson Flores
Olde thread:
Hudson Hughes
le poste of disbelief
Jaxson Smith
What do you think of my sound "panels"? 6 inches of Safe'n'Sound rockwool in each. I will be cutting holes in the sides to allow more sound to penetrate through but I need to be sure it wont be too flimsy afterwards
Nicholas Perez
goddamn those are huge. I doubt they'll be flimsy. post the before an after room response, I'm interested to see how they make a difference.
Easton Bailey
Close up
Jace Martin
It's an Ikea Gersby bookshelf. Realistically I need to build a minimum of 2 more then do a back wall diffuser. I need a table saw before I tackle that wall so it will be some time before I go about that. I don't have a calibrated Mic so I'm not sure how accurate something like that would be. Room is still a big work in progress
Back side with open gap (yes you should leave a gap)
Lincoln Gonzalez
Adam Collins
those are more than panels
that shit looks semi-pro
Thomas Martinez
They look like walmart bookcases with insulation in them
Austin Davis
I bought a set of Edifier R1280T's to put on my headboard shelves and I think they sound fucking great, now I want to get rid of my logishit speakers for my desktop because I'm painfully aware of how bad they sound now.
What would I start looking at that would be similar design to the Edifiers with a bit more wattage and not so near field?
I'd like to avoid going the receiver route since there is no point in buying another DAC when I have a competent soundcard.
Lincoln Miller
which is more than most anons do
Brayden Evans
Redpill me on Klipsch speakers.
Joseph Cox
cuerex here, i have klipsch rp 150 in the mail.. will trade blows with qacoustics concept 20 and polk s20 and mission qx-2
Jordan Hall
Just picked up an SVS sub and it feels like my soul got ripped through my anus in another dimension. A religious experience.
Isaiah Turner
What do you want to know? High efficiency you could run the big stuff off of a 3 watt amp just fine. Don't know much about bookshelf size stuff really just the high end
Jaxson Nelson
I've done multiple a/b tests in the past and have been able to (sometimes quite easily) tell the difference between 16/44 and 24/96.
This was done on a clean DAC and "mid-fi" gear such as AKG 702 and Beyer T90, and even on those you can tell the difference.
It is easiest to tell them apart when playing acoustic guitar or cymbal, or some classical with lots of string. Pop and Rock stuff is harder or near impossible to differentiate, but there was some Zeppelin song I tried once and after playing the same 10 second snippet over and over again I could still find the 24/96.
I'll save you all the audiophile terminology about how it sounded more "airy" or "spacious" and just say that in these instances the 24 bit files simply sounded cleaner and there was just a little bit "more" to them. When you hear the twang of a guitar string, or the ringing from the hi-hats, or the fullness of a drum there is ABSOLUTELY a difference.
So then if there is a difference in those small instances that I can actually notice when sitting down and comparing them then there have to be other instances where even though I can't ascertain any variation, there is still some extra subtle data to that song that you're missing in 16 bit.
And it's not exactly that hard drive space is at a premium. Space should never be a concern.
Other than what my original comments were about when it's stupid high stuff like 24/192 and above where it actually is just wasted space.
2l.no
2l.no
North Country II is a good example to compare.
Nolan Murphy
>I'd like to avoid going the receiver route since there is no point in buying another DAC when I have a competent soundcard
what
Jayden Ortiz
user has powered speakers so uses a 3.5mm to RCA cord to hook them up and presumably uses Windows volume control
Klipsch The Sixes
Caleb Taylor
So I found these locally for about $100, they are the Sony SS-D705AV, haven't auditioned them yet but they say it's in perfect condition, what do you think guys? should I pull the trigger?
Carter Baker
Hello /apg/. I am currently using a scarlett solo audio interface with a home cinema system. The interface has a unbalanced RCA out. I want to upgrade my speakers to a pair of yamaha hs7. These have a XLR3-31 type (Balanced), PHONE (Balanced) input. Will it be retarded to connect a unbalanced output to a balanced input in this case? Do I need a new audio interface?
Elijah Williams
I remember first time I have experienced High-res audio, first thing noticed was actually not high frequencies but rather bass.
Bass was much fuller on High-res than coresponding CD albums.
William Cook
You can use adapters just fine and dandy. You'll lose ~6db worth of output but that is no issue for having compatibility here
Logan Roberts
every thread until you appreciate it
Ayden Gutierrez
They could have used horns and reduced those stacks by 60%
Daniel Brooks
Leo Kelly
Nice! Smart idea to use a bookshelf. What density rock wool did you use? I've been thinking of replacing/complement my foam absorbents with 4-8" thick rock wool absorbents.
Thomas Hernandez
Michael Murphy
Hope the QX-2 will finally stop losing your comparisons
Sebastian Thomas
I would really want to listen to a pair of Rey Audio monitors.
Jayden Murphy
>6 inches of Safe'n'Sound rockwool in each
3" thick pieces back to back
Jose Moore
explain
Ayden King
Yeah, but what density?
I have no idea
Lincoln Scott
>Yeah, but what density?
It only comes in one type
>Actual Density - 2.5 lb/ft3 (40 kg/m3)
Grayson Cruz
Dumb question: isn't way harder to have a good sounding setup with speakers than with headphones? First, speakers are more expensive, second, you have to take the acoustics of the room into account. If you have a large reverberating room the best speakers will sound shit in it, right? So why not just go with a pair of good headphones, which by the way cost less?
Parker Fisher
Damn that is a beautiful setup
Andrew Wilson
There are way denser versions of rock wool that you could use to further improve the efficiency in the lower range. I've seen up to 140kg/m3
Matthew Robinson
yes but that's fun
Chase Reyes
Once you've experienced a impressive speaker setup you'll know the answer.
Ryan Jackson
Perhaps but this is pretty solid
Jacob Jenkins
It's waaay better than foam absorbents.
A 3" 130kg/m^3 rock wool panel has a coefficient of about 0.8 @ 125hz . I have no idea how an extra 0.3 translates into the real world
Zachary Reyes
Do bookshelves also help with sound in any way or is that a meme?
My guess would be that they mainly just help with reverb
Cameron Perez
bobgolds.com
Well, the room acoustics is a very big part of the sound so anything that helps with the rooms acoustics will also help with the sound.
Logan Johnson
Shame it doesn't show beyond 3" mark
Rockboard 80 is worse than Rockboard 60 except in 125Hz range, interesting. And Safe'n'Sound bests them all but that range also. Another reason I doubled up the thickness here
Julian Scott
So many bad URLs at the bottom my god. I'm off to bed, near 3 am here. If you have a guide on diffusers hit me with a link. That will be my next big project
John Clark
There are some examples with 4" thickness.
I have no idea who made the measurements, and if the structure/composition of the rock wool has any impact on its performance. But thicker = better seems to be a rule of thumb.
The site is probably older than the earth
Grayson Baker
Polycylindrical Diffuser
lots of links here:
gearslutz.com
Grayson Flores
Xavier Moore
Auralex geofusor is similar
just need to be filled with rockwoll
Evan Watson
What distance can I sit from binary amplitude diffuser? They seem to be weaker than shroeder types. Can I sit closer to them without sound getting weird?
David Brown
Elijah White
buyee.jp
hifido.co.jp
aucfree.com
Price in Japan is between 25 and 50 dollars for approximately compatible models. If they're in truly excellent condition, they're worth $100, but you can try negotiating to $85. These probably have a tight, punchy, accurate sound with controlled highs and a slightly recessed midrange.
You might find something similar online also.
Of related interest is the TA N55ES amplifier, which is of a compatible model, which is a bridgeable toroidal amplifier. These can go for about $150-$200.
Brody Morgan
cool! thanks user
Juan Flores
>giant speakers in a comparably small room
>trapping heat producing components in a tiny closed cabinent
>the feel of encased decrepit age, solitude and hearing loss
PASS
Ayden James
it's not that they are entirely bad but the tonality is definately not what i'm looking for afterwards..
the qx-2 were my first new set of speaker after 5 years owning the ls50 so that's that. they have their perks which are worth their money but i'm looking for the extra vaganza value which covers clarity with brillance, vibrant mids and tight extended lows. the qx-2 cover the tight extended lows but lacks in the other departments for me even though their soundstage is the widest i've heard yet with this authority out of that size. they absolutely sound like floorstand speakers.
luckily i have an user who wants to take care of them because apparently he loves the sound of his mission lx2.
Brody Stewart
>being this much of an homosexual
PASS
Leo Peterson
>posts another image of giant fastidious homosexual solitude
>calls other people gay
>probably owns JBL washing machines stuffed into a tiny room to compensate for aged hearing loss
tsk tsk
Easton Cox
>>being this much of
Not sure if directed at other or itself.
Colton Cox
>I've done multiple a/b tests in the past and have been able to (sometimes quite easily) tell the difference between 16/44 and 24/96.
yeah, well, you have not been able to tell the difference. there are two possibilites: you are either lying to me, or you are lying to yourself in some way.
do the procedure that i posted on any of the files and tell me: what sounds do you hear out of the speakers when you invert the 24/96 original and the one that was first converted to 16/44 and then back to 24/96. what do your hear? i will tell you what you will hear: nothing.
but you should if there was a difference that a human could hear. but you cannot. for several reasons. mostly because no gear can capture or play soundwaves with frequencies that high and because the noisefloor of amplifiers is higher then the proposed dynamic range.
this is probably because the SACD and DVDA are better mixed and mastered.
this is also the reason why vinyl sounds better than CD in many cases: they are mixed and mastered better. if the same master was on CD, the CD would of course be the better medium.
Hudson Cooper
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you will grow old and lose your hearing
Ryder Sullivan
You guys are creepy.
Camden Taylor
But he won't grow homosexual? Who the fuck pays for speakers that ridiculous other than homos.
Juan Ross
Chad probably
Owen Rivera
coaxial meme... why
Nathaniel Myers
>faggot who calls JBLs washing machines is back
imagine being this much of an earlet
John Bell
those are okay speakers, as in good
if the foamish surrounds are worn id walk away tho
theyre about 10 years old and should last another 15
David Gutierrez
Looks like something out of a Nipponese serial killer movie.
Isaac Wood
why....
Matthew Ross
Single source integration, but the size of that tweeter probably causes all sorts of weird effects that would make for weird effects that would cause weirdness.
Brody Adams
>Looks like something out of a Nipponese serial killer movie
And you don't think that it's cool?
To have a point-source sound without the problems of full-range drivers. The idea is not a meme, but they have to be very complex to work properly and they can't have any excursion
In your honest opinion, do you really think that you would prefer to listen to any of the smaller speaker to the glorious beast in the background?
Camden Diaz
Jackson Brooks
fix'd
James Moore
They look better from far away, lol.
Leo Stewart
no
Zachary Cruz
>Raspberry Pi with Volumio
>pair of active Edifier speakers
>lossless music in FLAC format
If I think this sounds good, how will high-end equipment sound to me? Is anything more expensive than this worth it? I could upgrade to a HifiBerry DAC+ Pro but I've read that high-end DACs do not sound different from Chinese dollar-store DACs included in smartphones and in this case, the Pi.
Adam Barnes
yeah i was thinking of getting a pair on a craigslist add for $30 but they have meh reviews
Jaxson Ward
That coaxial driver is very poorly design, so I wouldn't have big hopes for it.
KEF has nailed it with their design
Mason Hernandez
I think Teac makes better tape do-dads. Their other stuff seems like not their whole effort is into it.
Chase Richardson
yep its like night and day
Thomas Lopez
the passageway to the girl-cages are behind the speaker to the right
Cameron Mitchell
I sometimes wonder if I would have been as satisfied with the KEF Reference 1 as my JBLs. I was very close to order the References, but then the same day I thought that I probably would regret it.
Gavin Lee
I haven't heard any KEF. Some people love them, but some find they promote a metallic sound.
Jacob Taylor
Don't trust what others think
Oliver Wilson
Adam Kelly
Lincoln Howard
GRAMPS THE NURSE SAYS ITS TIME FOR YOUR ENEMA
Oliver Hughes
>Hating the old people that have built the society that you live in
Jose White
Always thought KEF coax design was weird. Doesn't this driver arrangement means that they have tweeter with a moving waveguide?
Parker Sanders
> wishes he had "homo" money
Blake Kelly
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The basic patents for "Uni-Q" have expired, so we will hopefully see more designs on the market.
>horn modulation
It is one of several reasons why a 3-way design is preferred for this type of mid-tweeter arrangement.
Xavier Morales
Yes, and that's why it's best suited as a mid-range.
Interesting.
Caleb Adams
>Getting this mad over people buying large speakers
Do you have autism or a inferiority complex?
Christian Evans
Landon Foster
sup guys i'm thinking about some methodology for speaker testing. does this sound covered or should i add/remove something?
methodology
Bass: extension, tightness, substance
Mids: vocal clarity, vibrance, focus, detail
Highs: brillance, sharpness, realism
Soundstage: , authority, Stereowidth, image depth, accuracy
Michael Smith
These setups look disgusting.
Dominic Turner
Why and why?
Only thing that matters is the overall performance in your room with your speakers
That's just like you opinion man
Blake Taylor
What is the audiophile justification for such massive filter caps? That amount of capacitance is what I would expect to find inside an oldschool transformer pro audio amp that dumps multiple kilowatts per channel into a wall of 18" horns all night.
Angel Ross
because i want to and because i think that there are people which want every aspect to be explained by text so they can translate some of it without having them heard
Gabriel Rogers
How are you going to review the speakers? There are like a billion variables to take into consideration.
Lincoln White
There are other designs on the market already, and nothing seem to stop, for example, Tannoy or ME Geithain doing coaxial things.