Fedora linux

Because I use something else.

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forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?317916-Minimal-Mate-Installation
If anyone else thought that the standard workstation install is over-bloated, here is a nice guide for a minimal mate desktop install.

>minimal

Other than the DE, what else are the major differences?
I'm about to install either one on an optimus thinkpad (with novidia hardware there's probably lots of work to fix the tearing and energy wasting), and looks like fedora handles this config better than opensuse that still relies on bumblebee, but other than that I want to know why do you install it over the other?

>needs a lot of attention to get a basic system running
gee 10 whole minutes, wow
so Fedora is for ADHD brainlets that can't pay attention for more than 1 minute? got it

This

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Basic X-window system & GUI still count as minimal.

At least for me OpenSUSE was extremely slow af when I chose not to install anything on it compared to Fedora.

i do :)

You can add linux-libre to any distro

You can run older intel hardware without any proprietary software

I do but I have no reason to actively discuss using it.

>Other than the DE, what else are the major differences?

btrfs vs ext4
yast
more stable due to older software, unless you use tumbleweed
better KDE integration

Pretty much differences end there.

>people should spend days installing a OS
wew

>beta testing RHEL for free

Also wicked instead of NetworkManager, find it more useful for desktops.

I don't feel like upgrading every 6 months.

I ponder what flaws there is to it, or if another distro is better, though I realize the word "better" is too broadly defined as for a distro-comparison; however, generally-speaking, I've yet to encounter anything better in my distro-hopping days.

Do you know what it entails to upgrade a Fedora release?

Its the OS Linus uses. And Jow Forums is not a person.

Because distros are all the same

Perhaps a more interesting question would be: stable or rawhide?

Lately I've been missing some new versions of software in F28 (kicad 5, risc-v qemu, kernel 4.18 due to broken usb in 4.17), it's trivial to install rawhide packages but always leaves me a tiny bit nervous about breaking something

No. Is it different from Debian?

>btrfs vs ext4
You can choose Btrfs during installation if you want to. It's just not the default.

The third-party repos because of the autism over freedom are annoying, and I don't tend to trust them.

I like the distro, and would use it if not for that.

Fedora takes no effort into supporting it, distro specific bugs aren't taken care of.

Any of the big distros aren't really going to have objective flaws, but instead make decisions you may not like. For instance Fedora
>Updates frequently
>Includes proprietary drivers you may need
>Makes it easy to install popular proprietary programs
>Is Gnome centric with other DEs taking a back seat

No clue about Debian.
A system update in fedora consists of 2 steps:
- let the package manager download all packages of the next release
- reboot to install all those packages

Part 1 can be done while you're working, part 2 takes about 20 minutes.

>You can choose Btrfs during installation if you want to. It's just not the default.
Yup. And Red Hat has completely abandoned it. They instead acquired Permabit last year. If people want BTRFS, OpenSuSE is a better choice.

Because all of its spins are trash
And GNOME is trash squared

>Gnome centric
While this is true, the Xfce spin has worked fine for me for years.

What DE is less shit than GNOME?

The one deep in the mind of the autists on this board.
They're all shit, but GNOME is the least shit.

good luck using nvidia cards with gnome lmao

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I'm using their XFCE spin on an old and beaten up third-hand X220. Comfiest distro ever

How is Nvidia not supporting wayland Gnome's fault?

What's the issue? Don't nvidia cards have troubles with all DEs anyway?

I use it on this piece of shit Thinkpad. Fucking hell i've got way too many packages, I hate that programming utils and tools (well shit ones anyway) have so many dependencies.

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Systemd cancer

botnet

What exactly is so bad about systemd?

>inb4 freetards spewing their nonsense about muh RedHat botnet

Arch works fine, the only difference is instead of a GUI, you decide what you install in the start.

I like Fedora, I just couldn't get over the fact that the GUI preloaded a bunch of packages I didn't need, I found arch to be easier and faster once I got rid of the fact I had to uninstall programs on Fedora.

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*shrugs*

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Too late

>"Haha enjoy your free beta testing!"
>Literally any up to date distro is beta testing for Debian/RHEL anyway

I use Fedora at work. Arch linux on my private laptop. Windows for gayms.

>Perhaps a more interesting question would be: stable or rawhide?
Anyone?

this

How do I prevent this

Rawhide breaks to often to use it daily

That's retarded, btrfs is in the kernel ant not going anywhere.

Because I favor rolling release models to point-release, even when the software is comparably up to date.

Fedora's a fine distro though, and probably the one I'd be using if not for that one reason.

Why would you want to? It just means that they observe the new packages in a real environment before using them in LTS distros.

pros
>delta rpm updates, only download the changes to the program, not the whole thing over again
>stuff is usually available in rpm format as well as deb

cons
>have to add third party repos for lots of stuff (nvidia driver, mp3 playback, etc)

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