>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 for lower settings, or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL work >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS) >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Reposting from last thread If I were to spend 175€ on a mini ITX B450 motherboard, should I get an Asus b450-i or an Asus Rog x470-i? I only plan on slightly overclocking and I'd like for my VRM temps to remain relatively low while playing vidya at 1440p and maybe during some slightly more demanding workloads. I'll use a downblower noctua cooler and will slightly overclock my ram as well (3200 to 3400 if possible).
Wait. This is all fine and dandy but nobody cares though, so what the fuck are you doing? Post one pic of ur build when ur done, not 20 pics of you unboxing a gpu
Serious question. Are you autistic or something? Why are you posting so much just about a GPU install? Don't you notice no one does that here?
Asher Peterson
I'm glad that this is the response he gets
Julian Davis
God damn, never do that again. You make the thread die earlier with this many unecessary pics, fuck off autist
Andrew Perry
I upgraded an old Dell on the 775 socket and i want your opinions on how balanced/bottlenecked it is >Core2 Quad Q9400 >HD 7750 1gb by Asus >6gb DDR3 1333 RAM by Samsung >320gb WD hdd + 250gb Toshiba hdd >500w Akyga psu
Ian Watson
I'm confirmed autistic and I don't do that shit, and I'm proud of building my first PC recently, but I haven't flooded /pcbg/ with pics.
Dylan Sullivan
aio is a meme, so yes
Dominic Price
I would change out the 7750 for an R9 280X 4gb. and change the ram to 8GB of ddr3... and use a single 1TB HDD
Josiah Gonzalez
I'd say B450. Does it have to be Asus? The Asrock mITX boards have always been a bit nicer to me.
Justin Barnes
But isn't the r9 a literal house fire?
Aiden Lee
Seems like a good deal to me. Looks better than a huge D15 or the like too, and cools about equally
Compare them in programs and CPUs you actually use.
You don't ask a cute girl(male) how to add 423h2h423h42+98yff9aehba and determine how well she fucks simply by that answer. That's not how fucking works.
Dang. 2600 is looking nice there.
Well considering that Intel's hyperthreading is fundamentally, architecturally flawed, the 9700k still the Intel CPU to get since the 8600k isn't enough threads and the 8700k is broken. Just that that only applies to people who are too dumb to just get Ryzen, obviously. Intel told them to test with the security patches enabled since the 9000 series has a few architectural improvements against them. That puts Coffeelake performance down, but doesn't really affect Ryzen.
Ayden Rodriguez
>Want help? Should I wait to get a new nvme ssd?
Prices have been coming down and I read somewhere there's was overproduction of 3 nand,. Will we be able to buy a 1TB SSD for $100?
John Garcia
>since the 9000 series has a few architectural improvements against them no it doesn't, the 9700k and 9900k are just 8 core coffee lake and everything below is a literal rebrand
Henry Hernandez
>so how do I compare cpus? Reviews, benchmarks cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770/3887vs1979 Yeah, there's been very little improvement. The entire fucking PC component industry has become a joke. Intel has had a tech lead for a long time and they've done fuck all with it. GPU prices are sky high thanks to the cryptobubble, and RAM is through the roof because cartels. It's all completely fucked, price/performance ratio has stayed pretty much the same for a long time, and in some cases it's actually gotten worse.
My old computer is 6 years old (except GPU). I was planning to drop 2000€ on a new PC, but with the state of the industry being such shit, it just isn't worth it buying a new computer. I'll wait for the next gen and see if there are any improvements
Austin Morris
Is SATA based SSD a worthwhile purchase over HDD? I have and 2600k based system which doesn't support nvme.
Julian Cox
You say reviews and benchmarks, then you don't link to a review nor a legitimate benchmark? How dumb can you be?
Parker Long
>build pc >show parents >user where's the rest of it? atx was a mistake
Cooper Hall
>32 pins on a GPU in 2018 >people will defend this
>RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs
Keep repeating this baseless lie, pathetic AMDrone shill.
Jayden Myers
>you don't link to a legitimate benchmark But I just did
Jack Jenkins
>8700k not listed >6700k ridiculously high >2700X below Skylake and an i5
Looks like these spics rushed their testing and fucked it up.
Ayden Smith
You are a huge disgrace to the family.
Robert Rodriguez
Which B450 motherboards are really good? I heard the MSI B450 Tomahawk and especially the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon are the best ones but turns out I can't find either in shops.
Ethan Gomez
That shows a pretty massive improvement. The 1800X is often nearly 2.5x faster than the 2600k. Even in games, it's well ahead. So is the 8700k, obviously.
Things certainly progressed more slowly in the past 7 years than the 7 years prior to that, but if you're on Sandy/Ivy it is absolutely worth upgrading either now or next year. It'll be worth it even for people on Haswell i7s next year as well, I'm sure.
B450M Mortar is just a smaller Tomahawk. B450M Bazook and MSI B450 A Pro seem to be the same as those but cut down a bit with worse audio, 1 less fan header, smaller heatsinks, and a few other small things.
Pro4 might be passable... some people have great experiences with them, and some not. If you can return it to your local shop if there's trouble easily, then that helps. No cheap Gigabyte boards are worth getting. Cheap ASUS AM4 boards and pretty eh from what I've seen as well.
Lmao. Cinebench has literally been Intel's favorite test of the past decade.
Asher White
>tfw value a pc being loud as possible to cover up my tinnitus
Well uh, Xeon still shits on everything else, but how many of the incels in this thread actually do work that requires a workstation cpu? Gaming performance is what matters to most here, and Memetel will shit on AMD in that regard, as usual
John Price
Is it worth upgrading to a 8700K now or should I just wait for 9900K at this point?
I built a gaymer PC last year with a R5 1600 and I regret this decision.
Zachary Kelly
The 9700 has a great score considering Intel purposedly gimped it with 8 less threads and no hyperthreading.
The only red flag though is that its slower than Gen 1 Ryzen.
Wait for benchmarks, the RTX reviews will be on September 17 and with all these Intel leaks these new processors will most likely be out by the end of the month or the first week of October.
Grayson Scott
8700k would be more of a sidegrade to your 1600, have you thought about the 2700x?
Jason Richardson
>8700k would be more of a sidegrade to your 1600 (lol
The 8700k shits on the 1600 that its not even on the same league
Noah Smith
What's a dirt cheap case that isn't total garbage? I'm giving all my old parts to a friend basically everything but a graphics card that's on him. Trying to remove any excuse he has to be playing Xbox anymore.
