UK wants to ban "hate speech" (and other things) on private forums.
theguardian.com
>closed forums can be given a “secret” setting, they can be hidden away from everyone but their members. This locks out the police, intelligence services and charities that could otherwise engage with the groups and correct disinformation.
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Oh, no.
Unlock your doors and install the government cameras in your houses, don't want to look like you're hiding something.
Cool. I fully support this.
Can't wait until they shut down Jow Forums
Well it's not private and i haven't seen any charities on Jow Forums yet that tried to "correct disinformation". Geez these wankers sure are sloppy nowadays.
she's an MP but her party isn't in power, the bill won't pass unless the conservatives fancy themselves more power to pry
implying murrica is any better
>It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself – anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called.
are you dual lobotomized or something? in what way would Jow Forumstards crossboarding and shitposting everywhere be a good thing? let them fuckers have their own containment echo chamber board like the ponyfags do and all is well
>implying murrica
why do you want people you disagree with to be hunted by the state for saying different opinions? whats your motivation for that?
Are you aware that 1984 is a fiction, right? I know that it seems very realistic and utopic for a vampiric cuck anglo like you, but it never happened.
Also, where is your license to shitppst?
>implying GCHQ is going to shut down Jow Forums
>doesn't remember the shitshow that was Jow Forumsharbor
newfag spotted, also Jow Forums isn't hosted in the commonwealth so good luck with "shutting down" Jow Forums
>YFW you don't live in BRITBONGISTAN
> Oh no, these people have wrong opinions! Hello, police?
Oh dear, that's too bad.
True, but this shit is becoming an amalgamation of 1984, A Brave New World and Neuromancer. This timeline is shit.
>I think we should commit a mass genocide of non-whites
>Hey don't get upset, I'm just stating my opinion.
Okay well my opinion is that Nazis belong in prison.
I mean, if the opinion is that taking pictures of females they work with naked in secret, sharing it with their friends and planning to rape them...then I'm OK with them getting shut down.
I'm good to hear about all these totally innocuous and well meaning groups that the UK gov has hunted and successfully prosecuted though.
I'm sure you have a long list ready
>Jow Forumstards crossboarding and shitposting everywhere
They already do that though.
>Okay well my opinion is that Nazis belong in prison.
and you are allowed to have this opinion
no one should prosecute you for it
>but muh nahtzees, we need to get rid of our liberties and privacy to stop their imminent takeover!
LOL, you forgot to mention child porn and drug dealers.
>planning to rape them
thats completely different thing, as that is already a crime (planned rape, planned assault etc.)
>I'm good to hear about all these totally innocuous and well meaning groups that the UK gov has hunted and successfully prosecuted though.
>I'm sure you have a long list ready
i literally dont have
and who is to decide "well meaning" opinions? the state? are you brits really this much gone?
What i came here for is to understand the pathological desire to shutdown others
I dont like communists, but i dont care about them fantacising about killing millions of bourg and kulaks on their forums. Why should I? And why should I want the state to intervene? Seems completely irrational. They 100% should be allowed to do that.
Whats the justification here?
>correct """disinformation"""
>1776+242
>STILL being a retarded britbong
LOL
Funny that they refer to them as "online echo chambers" when they're essentially trying to turn social media sites into echo chambers for SJWs.
>they think that the brits can do anything against chinkmoot
HAH chinkmoot would completely ignore it and send them an add for a mobile game, not because he cares about us or anything but because he honestly couldn't give two shits about anything at all. What are they going to do? attempt to sue a chinaman in china for not following uk law?
>if you're not a white nationalist, you're an SJW
Not him, but what is the point of this post?
>ban words they don't like
>saying things they don't like can send you to jail
>wanting to ban private groups online that could talk about things that if were public could cause you to go to jail or lose your job
>ITS NOT SJWS THAT WANT THIS, ITS EVERYONE YOU STINKY WHITE NATIONALIST
You'd be surprised how loosely the term "white nationalist" is used by pro-censorship types these days.
What's neuromancer?
>I'm good to hear about all these totally innocuous and well meaning groups that the UK gov has hunted and successfully prosecuted though.
Bad shit tends to come out and be exposed.
Destroying everyone's privacy just so you can catch some of it sooner isn't a good trade off.
I don't want people calling for violence. That's taking free speech too far. Just as I don't want radical muslim clerics calling for violent Jihad, I also don't want neo-Nazis calling for a race war.
I'm talking about actual white nationalists here, I don't mind peaceful right leaning people.
Well there was that one guy charged with a hate crime in Scotland because he filmed his pug doing a nazi salute and put it on YouTube. I don't know if he ever got convicted.
Yeah, well, when these virtue-signaling tech companies use the term "white nationalist", they are talking about peaceful right leaning people, or indeed anyone who doesn't believe in exterminating white people.
>This locks out the police, intelligence services and charities that could otherwise engage with the groups and correct disinformation.
>Its not disinformation when we do it!
If you think this is just for violent extremism you don't have any clue about our cousins from over the pond.
This has stuff to do with technology mods, as its asking to report online activity.
>anyone who doesn't believe in exterminating white people
Nobody believes in exterminating white people.
>I should be allowed to scream racial abuse at people
No, you shouldn't.
Just a week ago they almost got general misogyny declared a hate crime. You really don't know the state of affairs over there do you? Not screaming racial abuse at someone, but if you don't include women in a group when they ask to join or whistle at them across the way you could possibly be charged with a hate crime. They didn't actually say no to this ruling they just pushed it back a little to examine it further.
> if you don't include women in a group when they ask to join or whistle at them across the way you could possibly be charged with a hate crime
This is pure hyperbole.
Oi mate, as far we know, Jow Forums is a place full of people of color and you just said to shut a place full of people of color down, which means you just did hate speech without the appropriate license.
Please stand by while we send our agents to apprehend you
Nottinghamshire Police... defines misogyny as "incidents against women that are motivated by the attitude of men towards women and includes behaviour targeted at women by men simply because they are women".
Examples include sexual assault, indecent exposure, groping, taking unwanted photographs on mobiles, upskirting, online abuse, being followed home, whistling, sexually explicit language, threatening/aggressive/intimidating behaviour, and unwanted sexual advances.
Yes you should.
The appropriate way to deal with it is to scream back, generally calling the people a retard, not calling the fucking cops.
I hate the UK and everyone in it, including myself.
just fucking end this joke of a nation already.
>This locks out the police, intelligence services and charities that could otherwise engage with the groups and correct disinformation.
Why do Britbongs have such a hard on for dystopian nanny states?
why are people still British in 2018?
I know the definition of misogyny.
You're not going to get a prison sentence for cat calling a woman. Shut the fuck up.
Yeah and you won't get one for making a video of a dog with its paw in the air either
Brexit really was a blessing in disguise for us Europeans wasn't it?
That's right. He didn't go to prison.
Not yet, hes going to in a few months though.
Not really, without UK, the EU will be able to the fuck they want, and the fuck they want is to be a fourth reich.
Doubt it. He got fined £800. Case closed.
for most yes.
[spoiler]not for the Germans though.[/spoiler]
Not if he doesn't pay the fine.
Rabbi fuck off back to Jow Forumseddit
He's already paid the fine. So basically you're full of shit.
Are we done here or do you have anything else?
>he already paid the fine
>you're full of shit
youtube.com
He appealed and they rejected the appeal. You are the one full of shit.
You don't go to prison for catcalling a woman.
You don't go to prison for misgendering someone.
You don't go to prison for encouraging a dog to make a nazi salute.
You're full of shit.
Well I won't, but thats because I'm American and hate speech has been declared free speech. I might lose a twitter account or something, but I won't have the choice put in front of me to pay a larger fine than some actual dangerous offenses like driving over the speed limit, or go to prison.
Nobody in Britain has ever been sent to prison for the aforementioned offenses.
I should also point out that America has the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world.
You're much more likely to see the inside of a prison cell as an American than any other nationality.
>You don't go to prison for misgendering someone.
In soviet Canuckistan you do.
Plenty of SJWs post tweets calling for the extermination of white people (not in the "breeding out of existence" sense but actually physically killing all white people), and they are never banned for it. Meanwhile, anyone who challenges these people gets banned for "hate speech". That's the sort of echo chamber these big tech companies want to create.
>Plenty of SJWs post tweets calling for the extermination of white people
Link me 5 of those tweets then.
>intentionally wording it so you ignore the fact that dude who got a dog to stick his paw up when he said a nazi thing is going to go to prison due to all of this
>then trying to say America is worse than the uk
Ok hit me up when I get fined more for saying mean things on the internet than if I go 95 in 65.
Watch T.J. Kirk's videos on Twitter SJWs. He has plenty of examples. I can't link to them directly because I don't use Twitter and thus have no idea where to find these specific tweets.
Okay so you're claiming that there are "plenty" of SJWs calling for the death of all white people all over Twitter yet you can't link me a single post?
>closed
>""""""secret"""""
>hidden
>locks out
...i think the word you're looking for is private, which doesn't strictly mean any of those things. this article (along with the government) is simply trying to make you feel like a guilty criminal for wanting privacy and that you'll be "engaged" and "corrected" if you don't surrender all your civil liberties to the people who already have more power than you.
I've already given you concrete examples that you can look at to verify what I said. What more do you want?
You're like someone who insists that kiddie porn doesn't exist because someone can't provide direct links to kiddie porn rings on the Dark Web.
You haven't given me anything. You just said
>Plenty of SJWs post tweets calling for the extermination of white people
>Watch T.J. Kirk's videos
You're basically just telling me to watch some random YouTube videos.
Link me something. You make an extraordinary claim and provide zero evidence to back it up. Just "lol go watch this YouTube video xD"
I'm not even calling you a liar outright, I'm just asking for some evidence.