Previous thread: If you're looking for purchase advice, state your budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Modern models: >X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light >T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series >T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0 >T440s >T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement) >P-Series - 15'' + 17'', 4K display, up to 64GB of RAM, Xeon CPU option. Expensive.
Why ThinkPad? >Used machines are plentiful and cheap >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet >Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop >Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain >The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
From previous thread. user, if you're here, what kind of screen did you buy and how much did you pay for it? Is it an lcd screen?
Colton Reyes
Fuck off reddit
Jackson Thompson
Is there a reason why my T420 only boots from UEFI? Is it the windows install that it came with? Because I'm forced to use GPT now which I hate I tried everything to make sure that it wasn't the usb/iso that was the issue after installed arch I'm going to try booting a usb in legacy to see if it works, but is there anything else that could be the problem?
Thinking of getting a p72 when it fucking finay comes out. Hoping it will be atable/powerful enough for the music performance and processing/recording stuff Im going to need to do with it.
Grrr... I can't find a good good thinkpad for 500€, I need your help Jow Forums. Only thing I want is fast 2.9@, min 200GB(option for ultrabay) SSD and the seller has to be located on in EU.
The weak part of the Model M is the little plastic rivets that hold the barrel plate onto the metal backplate. They'll break if someone goes ape on the keyboard, it took shock abuse, or someone stacked something heavy on it. The way to fix that is a boltmod. Very early versions also ended up with cracks running lengthwise horizontal across the entire plastic barrel plate. Early design flaw coupled with wrong grade of ABS. But that's only the very earliest square-label ones.
Jordan Gray
LG LP140WD2(TL)(G1) £ 41.99
Chase Fisher
>whats wine wintard
Cooper Howard
bought an 13 euro aftermarket battery for my x60s on ebay. just got it today and one of the battery cells is swollen already.
I know I cheaped out but its hard to justify a 30euro battery for a 50euro laptop
what's wrong with the k1000m? I just bought a W520 with the Quadro 1000M and 16 gigs of ram for 200 novidea is cancer on linux so I was planning to just leave it off
nah the t420 came out before that cancer I think it's the windows 10 installation that the moron I bought it from had installed. I'm going to install arg lenox in UEFI mode when I get home, change the bios settings to legacy only and see if it boots from a USB I would try removing the drive to see if that does anything but I dont have a screwdriver in my dorm
Sebastian Cook
Alright, Arch installed just fine in UEFI I put the bios is legacy only mode and when I try to boot off my arch usb, I get a black screen for like 20 seconds and then it goes back to the F12 boot menu What gives? I've never had a thinkpad do this before
Evan Ramirez
And it's running like fucking molasses startx to i3 on a fresh arch install shouldn't take 2 minutes. What the fuck is going on with this thing? Should I update the bios?
>pretty much every major company exclusively buys Thinkpads because of memes and former glory You're very special and cool for owning a $50 IBM Thinkpad but you know this is false my man
Jackson Flores
>another retard fallen for the (((vintage))) thinkpad meme
No like it's running slower than my x200. sensors is reporting 37C so I don't understand what's going on I have too many debian machines already. I don't think this is an arch issue
Jose Parker
>laptop is basically an antique >it's somehow slow m8, even my mother could solve this mystery
Henry Walker
t450s master race reporting in
Kevin Baker
My T420 is lightning fast, I dunno what that user is having problems with.
Caleb Walker
ThinkPads are for folks who hate apple but are otherwise identical in all respects.
it was my bad My script dumps config files that are written for debian rather than arch, they worked a few years ago but arch changed a lot of their names and stuff so it was probably throwing a million errors in the background slowing things down. Got it fixed and it's running as it should now
I just don't understand why it's not booting with legacy mode and it's really annoying me that I had to use a GPT disk (I like to be able to move disks around my machines) How do I fix this anons? I'm geniunely stumped
>my old shit is working bad >why would i chage my old slow shit with a new fast fine laptop
Mason Martin
Is there any place where I get the older T420 BIOS updates? chinknovo only has the latest one on their site for spectre and I don't want my shit to slow down
Jonathan Perez
> Why would I replace a $10 part when I could spend $1200 on a brand new laptop lol
Ian Martin
On debian which de works best on an x220 out of the box?
Tyler Allen
Glad to hear you got it working, user. I like your color scheme a lot, I've had the same look to my computer for about 8 months now and your screenshot is making me want to rework things a bit. It'd be nice to have some cooler colors for the winter season.
Asher Harris
First google result. Scroll down. Everything there from revision 01.
Wow that's so deep man wow thanks for woke-ing my sheeple eyes
Jonathan Bailey
I have a very long i3config that works well with all my thinkpads (including the tabletS), but KDE worked very well the last time I tried it Just make sure you're on testing or sid
Cooper Moore
>thinkpad >brand new you droped some dumb shit right there
Zachary Gonzalez
I love how they're all .exe's except for the one I don't want (the spectre patch) which is an iso. I don't know if it's worth it. Can anyone with a T420 try to replicate this issue? Try setting your bios to legacy only mode and booting from the debian 9.5 disk or the latest arch iso. I don't know if it's my USB drive because it works just fine in my T420
Just a heads up. "If the UEFI BIOS has been updated to version 1.48 or higher, it is no longer able to roll back to the version before 1.48 for security improvement."
Nathan Barnes
Why shouldn't I install openSUSE on my T530?
Eli Brown
what is the most retard proof thinkpad, i.e. the toughest youcan get without purchasing a toughbook
preferably a newer model, would buy used if i didn't need it right now
Xavier Gutierrez
Yeah I just read that fug Well other than the bios being shit I can't think of a single reason why a usb stick would work fine with UEFI boot but not legacy boot I hope the W520 I have coming in doesn't have the same autism
Jonathan Smith
>W520 I hope you're not actually gonna install systemd/Linux on it
Hudson Morgan
Why wouldn't I?
Dominic Phillips
a x130e it was made for kids
Ian Powell
I would use a Thinkpad I just don't like the nipple
Jack Evans
Optimus support is a bitch, you might as well buy a T5** without a dGPU, and since the screen is adobeRGB, color profiling and management etc doesn't work well either. Fuck it, no OS does, but there's less demand for it on Linux so it gets less development. I freelance as a photographer, and photo editing tools themselves are fine on linux, but to make full usage of this device it's better to stick with windows, since I need full performance, and the ability to use, and not use, the dGPU anytime I want.
Still, if it's gonna be used only on the desk (ie not moved) it's probably fine though if you're willing to put effort to make it work.
Dominic Campbell
Optimus has been "fine" since 2016. bumblebee works and there's an option to disable the gpu in the bios, my t530 has this. As for the screen there's a bunch of color calibration tools for linux, not that I need it or care, I was after the resolution and getting 16 gigs of ram for 200 bucks
Nathaniel Evans
>Optimus The reason I still dualboot too. Doesn't work as seamlessly as on windows, though it's mostly because novidia doesn't want to give proper development. Still can't really blame them for not supporting the 2%; when I looked at dev discussion on the whole linux browser hardware acceleration debacle, chrome/opera/mozilla devs share the same "GPU blacklist" vocabulary.
Zachary Phillips
Shit like this is why this board is basically fucking Reddit now. Newfags who don't know shit about anything so they call a T420 "vintage". If you don't know what's wrong, it's alright to not say anything at all, this isn't Reddit, you're not getting anymore karma fag.
Isaiah Flores
Oh and this shit seem have regressed a bit, in older ubuntu release I just need to logout and login to switch cards but now I have to reboot. wtf. 18.10 seem to fix this, it's easier now, tried the daily build 3 days ago, but performance isn't the same.
Mason Morales
wat r u a fag
James Peterson
What are you waiting to install coreboot on your thinkpad? You can use it to play games on your BIOS!
Thank you for the downvote, and keeping this subreddit at a higher quality than others.
Isaac Jenkins
How many years do I have to wait until used A485 thinkpads appear on ebay for half of their MSRP? I am hanging in with my Lenovo G550 craptop and my shitty PC.
I need to get a raspberry pi for libreboot, and those weird clamp things. I'm waiting for ram and cpu first. Is there any other cool payloads to put in the BIOS besides that Tetris and a bootloader?
Tyler Taylor
wew, probably 5 years, so 2024 I can't believe I'm going to see the 2020s
Jack Cruz
don't know, but I see the E585 finally dropped so I can buy one now
Ryan Bailey
Massive faggot here. Just got a $1500 usd grant to spend on ONE laptop. I want to play tekken 7 and do homework for my computer networking classes. What should I get?
Jose Cox
is it possible to install meltdown&spectre patches while using coreboot?
Isaac Wood
a noose
Asher Williams
See: Get one with a Ryzen 2500u. 2700u if you care about several more fps. You will have around 600$ to spend on mouse/headphones/controller or maybe even a monitor.
Caleb Reyes
is it possible to painlessly switch out the key caps for fn and ctrl on t420?
James Allen
No, they're different sizes.
Jackson Allen
You can swap what they do in the BIOS though
David Johnson
> Install Coreboot > Lose the ability to use the HD3470
It's a dogshit GPU, but it's still lightyears ahead of the integrated Intel trash.
Nathaniel Jenkins
The Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display.
Levi Long
If I want to update the bios using Linux, how would I go about it if there's no iso provided, and just an exe? This is for the retarded T420 that will boot from UEFI but not legacy, it's on a 2011 bios now so I'm thinking of trying one of the 2012 bios updates
