Let's talk about Debian

Is it true that Debian is now basically downstream from Ubuntu?
Is it true that Ubuntu basically does all patching, fixing, security updates and Debian just leeches off?
What happened to Debian?
Does it even have active maintainers?

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None of this is true, why would you even think that?

Heard it from Jow Forums.

Just like the rest of this anime website, don’t take anything here as fact or seriously

you're too innocent to use Jow Forums

>gee Ubuntu seems pretty similar to Debian
>Debian must be ripping off Ubuntu

Well, none of this is true and it's very simple to see why. The life cycle of the systems is completely different.

Debian usually keeps supporting a software version and backporting updates way after ubuntu moves off from it.
If you use an LTS ubuntu system basically none of the software it was running in the release day will be in the same version in the EOL day. On a debian system it's the exact opposite.

Also if you ever happen to interact with the Debian development community you will see that no one takes arguments of the kind "but ubuntu and fedora did so" seriously.

ubuntu is still based on debian testing

How is Debian for a gnu/linux newbie?

It's fine. Most distros are fine.

>anime website
oh sweetie...

I would reccomend Ubuntu - it's Debian with training wheels on. Debian presumes some knowledge you won't have.

Ubuntu is just Debian with patches and newer software. They basically fix what Debian doesn't.

just like manjaro fixes what arch doesn't

Debian is a base for other operating systems. It's not meant to be used on its own, because many packages are frozen in a broken state.

what the fuck are you on about

is debian with gnome 3 good for touch screen laptop ?

It takes like 30 minutes to install. Literally try it yourself.

how

>gnome 3
literally puking now

>i take my information from Jow Forums unironically
stop
seriously fucking stop right now

every single statement in above is false

why

what do you mean "how"?

>It's not meant to be used on its own
>many packages are frozen in a broken state.
You literally dont have a clue the hell you are talking about.

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>Is it true that Debian is now basically downstream from Ubuntu?
eh no

ubuntu builds upon debian and has it's ppa shit and all while debian still sticks with their own repositories and all that shit. Driver support and so isn't as good still as ubuntu tbqh. Out of the box it's easier for unexperienced users to go with ubuntu due that and other reasons. In this way debian is a lot cleaner as it always have been.
>What happened to Debian?
the cia niggers managed to get debian to switch to systemd in 2014 and they killed Ian Murphy, the founder. It's very compromised, meaning all distros building on it is too. The exceptions would be smaller ones such as devuan who has removed that cancer, but got way to slow rolls and too few devs and maintainers
>Does it even have active maintainers?
where do you get this from, implying it does not? It's a really big eco system, the biggest

the gnuman should go on a diet

for the most part yes, unless you are an illeterate and need to have nvidia drivers, cuda etc installed. As you are going to have to install that your self.

In ubuntu you get ppas for that crap, if updated to the newest I doubt but it isn't that bad.

if you want to go full bleeding edge no systemd and roll like a pro, you go with arch. it's a bit more tinkering but this way you learn too. It happens that the system breaks, and they you have to clean up your self etcetcetc

Are you fucking retarded?

ubuntu is out of date debian

low iq bait

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What in the sweet fuck...

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stay with Ubuntu, the people who say that you cannot learn the inner workings of Linux with Ubuntu are tryhard faggots. Use vanilla Ubuntu, when you are comfortable grab a book about Linux and try the barebones netinstall version of Ubuntu and build your desktop from ground up.

There, I saved you years of futile distro hopping.

Ever hear of the story about how Debian got it's name?

It's a combination of the creators name and the women he loved (Debra). She eventually found out about this and turned him down for being weird and shit.

He then killed himself out of despair.


And that's how Debian came to be.

are you serious
she got weirded out?

ian murdock
debra
debian

Yup, she was his girlfriend at the time. They eventually married and eventually divorced .

i would reccomand cloveros.

>>Is it true that Debian is now basically downstream from Ubuntu?
>eh no
>ubuntu builds upon debian and has it's ppa shit and all while debian still sticks with their own repositories and all that shit. Driver support and so isn't as good still as ubuntu tbqh. Out of the box it's easier for unexperienced users to go with ubuntu due that and other reasons. In this way debian is a lot cleaner as it always have been.
>>What happened to Debian?
>the cia niggers managed to get debian to switch to systemd in 2014 and they killed Ian Murphy, the founder. It's very compromised, meaning all distros building on it is too. The exceptions would be smaller ones such as devuan who has removed that cancer, but got way to slow rolls and too few devs and maintainers
>>Does it even have active maintainers?
>where do you get this from, implying it does not? It's a really big eco system, the biggest

cloveros!

Only fags believe the shit we say.

bretty gud

keep your filthy distrohopping hands away from venerable debian you wintrash nigger

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linus torvalds says he's too dumb to install it

Oh boy here we go....

>he thinks this is an anime website

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Use Ubuntu or one of its flavours

It’s stupid easy to install nvidia drivers nowadays. My GT1030 works perfectly fine. No screen tearing either.

>no systemd
>arch

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yikes

Yes, Arch can use OpenRC. How the fuck do you not know this - are you a retard?

this desu

Jow Forums isn't just retards throwing nonsense, desu senpai, there is based Luke Thomas

Why not use Void at that point?

DELET THIS

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>full bleeding edge no systemd and roll like a pro
>and roll like a pro
>a pro

see:

>we
end yourself.

Also, the logo is literally a brush from Photoshop with a filter applied
Also they steal all the release names from Toy Story characters, and also they stole the logo from Buzz Lightyear's chin.

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Lol, you actually pay to shitpost?
kek

And you literally do Google's bidding for no pay.
kek

you dumb faggoteer