There is a reason why the Samsung Galaxy S9 and iPhone XS were only minor improvements to the Galaxy S8 and iPhone X.
Until a few years ago, phones were becoming bigger and bigger because of increased demand for larger screens. However, a phone that is too large becomes unwieldy and so phone makers started to reduce the size of the bezels instead. It is now common for even mid-range smartphones to be nearly all-screen and in a few years, we can expect budget devices to do the same. Once that happens, all the phones that you see in the store will look exactly the same.
Meanwhile, the technology behind the screens themselves have peaked too. The latest flagship phones all offer OLED displays that are capable of displaying true blacks and pixel densities that the human eye is incapable of differentiating. Beyond 300 ppi, you start getting diminishing returns. Beyond 400-500 ppi, any improvements become imperceptible.
Thirdly, Moore's law is coming to an end. With 7 nm chips in the latest iPhones, we are likely one process shrink away from reaching the limits of silicon. At 5 nm, quantum tunneling becomes an issue that is impossible to ignore. This means that continued increases in CPU and GPU processing power and power efficiency will grind to a standstill.
My prediction is that the Galaxy S10 and iPhone 11 will only be minor incremental improvements to the Galaxy S9 and iPhone XS. Beyond this, it's hard to say what will happen to the smartphone industry. Of course, people will still buy new smartphones when their old ones break but the current trend of newer and better phones being released every year will no longer apply.
At last but not least, if there was ever a perfect time to purchase a new smartphone then that time is probably today. A flagship phone from today is unlikely to ever become obsolete. As crazy as it sounds, that Galaxy S8/9 or iPhone X in your pocket might still be considered cutting-edge 10, 20, or even 40 years from now.
Normalfags will still drop their 1k phones on purpouse just to have an excuse to get a new one
Ian Martinez
I can’t really see where they can go from here either.
I want to upgrade from my SE because of screen size and waterproofibg but other than that even this thing is just fine and its a budget phone from 2.5 years ago.
Lucas Walker
>the technology behind the screens themselves have peaked too In terms of PPI and contrast yes there the best your going to get but OLED screens still have issues with longevity, There is more than can be done
>that Galaxy S8/9 or iPhone X in your pocket might still be considered cutting-edge 10, 20, or even 40 years from now. While I agree with you that a Galaxy S9 while hold up for years in terms of hardware grunt, the device itself will be as good as dead in a much shorter time.
Liam Bailey
It better be good. I’m about to fucking drop $1600 on a fucking phone
Henry Morales
Phones are the new computers anyway. Spending 1600 on a desktop or laptop wasn’t weird, but now the phone has become the main device.
Austin Lopez
An iPhone XS is not going to do a single thing the iPhone X didn't do
Wyatt Hall
They got that horrible notch
Brody Martin
There's lots to improve. How about removable batteries again. About physical buttons again, but with the camera there too so that we have a place for it and no stupid notches.
at that point maybe phone software will become more efficient. there's tons of inefficiencies going on so you can get huge performance and efficieny gains in that direction
Caleb Cooper
t. NPC Phones can't do shit.
Ethan Brooks
"i gutta render muh math equations and play bideo games!" Autist
Jason Sullivan
Performance wise, yes. But there could be new types of phones. In the "classic" category, there will be bendable and/or transparents (I really hope we will get those) phones. More "exotic" ones could be integrated into the skin or baka.
I could see in 20 years micro phones, that are as powerfull as 2000-2005 phones but that can fit on a contact lense.
Honestly I think the classic desktop UI on PC/smartphones will die in a few decades to a system that doesn't exist yet
Wft , meant to write "something" instead of "baka". Not even a phone poster.
Jason Cook
>can't edit audio >can't edit video >can't edit images >can't write documents >can't write software >can't play gaymes >usually can't even fucking multitask >need an app for everything >missing basic, simplistic, fundamental functionality like ports, expandable storage, and headphone jacks >no choice of os
Isaac Hill
>talks about reaching the peak >the display in OP image is actually missing the top what did he mean by this?
Solving math equations is way more valuable than playing with an expensive toy.
Brody Nguyen
This, phones fail entirely as general purpose computers.
Jaxon Brooks
Eventually you run out of idiots.
Angel Jenkins
Probably gay word filters at it again something
Angel Lopez
1600 on a laptop is definitely way too much. And on a desktop you get a decent homebuild.
Connor Hall
>cant edit audio wrong >cant edit video wrong >cant edit images wrong >cant edit documents Lol what? wrong >cant write software not your job >cant play games mobile games >cant multitask wrong >needs an app for everything >>Linux needs a packet manager for everything >missing things ok? >no choice of OS yes you do
You arent qualified.
Samuel Turner
I'm still using a OPO and a 5s, phones have peaked years ago if you don't need superfluous shit.
Aaron Garcia
>a 1-2ghz phone processor and 4gb of ram is enough to edit video, audio and images >you can write documents and software with your thumbs at 30wpm >mobile games are just as good as non-mobile games >needing a package manager for every program is the same thing as needing a different application for every website >selling the os with the hardware and being unable to change it is the same thing as choice
Nathaniel Stewart
I don't think that way, the next step, that samsung is already taking is being able to dock your phone and use it as a desktop os. Still the hardware might be able to fit the need.
Bentley Collins
I have a 7 Plus
Juan Thompson
I only care about few things in a mobile device >long battery life >good and large screen, absolutely no notch >waterproof >headphone jack >wireless charging After that it's mostly about software since every modern phone is fast enough. I got the S8+ after S9+ came out so it was on a discount. This feature list is definitely not being too greedy and asking for too much, but sadly there aren't many phones that check all the boxes. Mostly because of Apple setting the dumbest trends. I can't be the only one who wants this device? It sounds so normal and practical.
>At 5 nm, quantum tunneling becomes an issue that is impossible to ignore. This means that continued increases in CPU and GPU processing power and power efficiency will grind to a standstill.
Phones can do everything 99% of the population wants or needs to do.
Owen Lee
Yes and the 500$ phone can do that too.
David Jones
I agree, but that doesn’t make spending more for a flagship necessarily a bad move if it’s something you enjoy.
Blake Davis
Foldable phones, op, you missed that one. It's the next meme. There will be cheaper versions of foldable phones. Then holographic displays. Phones that can be folded into an arm band. Etc.
Hudson Cruz
this is what we call projection.
Henry Davis
>a 1-2ghz phone processor and 4gb of ram is enough to edit video, audio and images It is >you can write documents and software with your thumbs at 30wpm Then don't. >mobile games are just as good as non-mobile games buy a fucking switch than you autistic fuck. >needing a package manager for every program is the same thing as needing a different application for every website Then use the web versions retard. >selling the os with the hardware and being unable to change it is the same thing as choice There's no need to change OS's on a phone. If you're gonna shift goalposts, why pick such fucking shitty ones?
Jaxon Campbell
“peak” implies it only goes down from here yet in your post you say say there will be minor incremental improvements. admitting there will be improvements of any kind means we haven’t peaked. Q.E.D. you are a brainlet
Noah Long
Hopefully in the future you'll be able to build a phone to the specs of you're liking much like PC's of today.
There is still some fringe tech like 3d or foldable phones that might take generations to perfect. Other than that I agree there isnt much they can do now besides improve the battery or some camera marketing crap.
Leo Garcia
>tfw samsung won't give you new android releases >just buy it >it seems like people prefer iphones because they get continued updates even though some of those updates take up storage space and slow down the phone >how could this happen >solution: more bixby
Wyatt Green
wishful thinking
Leo Edwards
>Galaxy S8/9 or iPhone X in your pocket might still be considered cutting-edge 10, 20, or even 40 years from now.
Nope, they’ll find some cool new feature in 2-3 years and people will go crazy over it
Ayden Jenkins
>removable batteries in 2018
Noah Miller
>removing convenience is an improvement
Ian Brown
I don't understand this meme. What's so special about 9.0 that Samsung needs to update RIGHT FUCKING NOW?
Angel Harris
Because it's a flagship phone that cost upwards of $750 new. If anyone is paying that much for a phone, the manufacturer damn well better make sure it has the latest OS upgrade available as soon as possible. One year later is not as soon as possible.
This is why I left my Samsung Galaxy s8 for an Android one phone. I will never buy another Samsung flagship. I had the s4,s5,s7,s8. No more for me. Samsung blows. Mid-range phones honestly do just as well.
Joseph Gutierrez
ok, but what features do 9.0 have which make it essential that Samsung push out a 9.0 update?
Brayden Murphy
Your creative fiction night classes are starting to pay off.
Cameron Morgan
Will x64 become obsolete in our lifetimes?
Blake Wright
It's not about the features you nitwit. It's the money you paid into the phone. Flagship are supposed to be the top of the line. Having last year's OS is not top of the line. But features you'd want:
>Better power saving (adaptive battery) >Upgrade to the Google assistant (fuck that bixby garbage) >Better AI(slices) >IMPROVED SECURITY
Ethan Cook
Sounds like a pretty minor update with marketing buzzwords. I couldn't care less if Samsung takes another few months to push out an update.
Brandon Torres
If I want last year's OS I'll buy a 300 to 500 mid-range phone instead of the Samsung flagship for 750 to 1000 worth the same OS with shittier skins.
Christian Collins
My overall experience with the Note 9 isn't negatively affected by a slow Android update, sorry. The s-pen is fucking amazing and the phone is beautiful.
You "STOCK ANDROIIIIIID" "FAST UPDAAATESS FOR NO REAAAASONNNN" autists are cringey af
Connor Kelly
See Also the S9 won't get pie until July or August.
Benjamin Howard
Also me Paying 500 dollars less for a phone that does 85% of the same shit.
>But muh s pen
Samuel Sullivan
Couldn't give 2 fucks if they waited until the S10 to push out 9.0. Right now their top priority is making the S10 the best phone they possibly can. Now that they're the only flagship with a headphone jack and no notch people will look past the slow updates anyway and they know that.
Adam Nguyen
Don't fix what ain't broken. Let Samsung have enough time to make sure everything works correctly.
Landon Walker
those keyboards are shit. can’t have multiple monitors. context switching is too clunky. not programming on a fucking iphone no sir no thank you
Adam Campbell
>At 5 nm, quantum tunneling becomes an issue
Regurgitated memes so confidently spewed out. Fucking retard. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Jason Morales
Go ahead and keep giving your money to dumbass south Koreans you simple minded Samsung fanboys. I'll spend the money I save on cool shit while you guys pay for useless gimmicks(features) and shitty skins while thinking Samsung is upgrading the OS with shitty bloatware that are just apps Google makes better versions of.
Josiah Martin
>removable batteries >physical buttons get with the times grandpa
Eli Thompson
Can you mine crypto currency in your phone? then STFU
Joseph Wood
underage b&
Isaac Davis
bendable phones would be epic, imagine folding your phone so small that you can put it into your wallet
Sebastian Butler
Nigger nowadays you can't even mine on a GPU.
Brandon James
Why don't they make audio improvements? Oh that's right because they are all marketed to teenage girls who use Snapchat
Kevin Miller
>he listens to music Look at this NPC
Camden Sanchez
No, have reached peak smartphone with SGS5. Since then smartphone design has been deteriorating with every year >removable batteries? Nope, buy new phone. >straight glass is too hard to break and too cheap to replace, let's go curved >you thought only one side of the phone can get cracked? nope, glass is on the back now too >come to think about it, glass is not brittle enough, ceramic is where it's at
Jack Garcia
That Samsungs doing. Fucking Koreans.
Noah Foster
what a phone needs 1. sd card slot 2. removable battery 3. 3.5mm jack 4. as much battery life as possible 5. 1080p screen and some mid tier cpu that's it. everything else is made up garbage for retards
Julian Gonzalez
Honestly I could trade the removable battery for waterproofing and wireless charging,.
Wyatt Diaz
You're on Jow Forums, where anyone who does more than shitpost about smartphones doesn't fit into that 99%. And I bet it's not 99% either. Even a regular office drone wants a nice external monitor and keyboard. Of course you can connect those to a phone, but at that point it's just as convenient as a regular PC.
Justin Thompson
record stereo audio
Christian King
>Needing to record in stereo on a phone
Why? What's the point?
William Perry
>As crazy as it sounds, that Galaxy S8/9 or iPhone X in your pocket might still be considered cutting-edge 10, 20, or even 40 years from now. no. they will be seen as an obsolete technology when AR glasses get released.
Connor Anderson
IR too you stupid cunt
Dylan Sanchez
> There is a reason why the Samsung Galaxy S9 and iPhone XS were only minor improvements to the Galaxy S8 and iPhone X.
Maybe Samsung have run out of improvements. iPhone X to XS has, in one year:
- 0 more pixels
- 0 more ppi
- 0 more megapixels
- 0 more advertised Ghz
- 0 more advertised MB RAM
- 0 more K video capture
- 0 more advertised hours of battery life
- no hydra or siamese twin support in FaceID
- 0 more sockets
- 1 more Bionic
- 1 more iOS
- water proof rating closing in on 69, dude
> Beyond this, it's hard to say what will happen to the smartphone industry.*
Apple will sell new Watches, competitors will go "omg we forgot to plan for what to do when phones run out of room for development, quick, copy Apple, put some shovelware into the new Samsung Wortczh - omg omg look it has ~ themes ~".
> unlikely to ever become obsolete. As crazy as it sounds, that Galaxy S8/9 or iPhone X in your pocket might still be considered cutting-edge 10, 20, or even 40 years from now.*
Nobody wants IR anymore. A communications thing that doesn't involve an advertising based cloud service? Literally unusable.
Parker Foster
They think way ahead of us user, non removable batteries and finnicky glass phones guarantee that you and every other normie will eventually have to buy another phone in less than three or four years, batteries only last 3 or 4 years of use until they show noticeable degradation. Most all glass phones are incapable of having a battery changed without the back cracking and maybe even shattering.
Brody Bell
I don't understand how people have this problem at all, just buy from a carrier that is known for having quick updates, I habe owned the same s7 edge since it came out and I updates come out fairly quickly, I constantly have to update my phone and I have the newest version of Oreo.
pic would be related only in the context of the iPhone Upgrade Program >Get a new iPhone every year >AppleCare+ coverage included >Low payments from $37.41/month >Works with your carrier
Brody Ward
Newest version of Oreo is over a year old. Pie has been here for over a month.
Hudson Bennett
Apple finally reached Samsung's level of water and dust ingress protection. But Samsung still has a headphone jack...
Christian Torres
>over a month I agree with you honestly but oreo is fairly new and pie doesn't look/do anything different other than gestures, I would probably try out the iPhone Xs/max for a year or two if I had the dough just for those sweet updates, I guess you could buy the pixel but the pixel two is a no for me and I rather not be that poor person that gets a contract for a phone.
I just checked (((out of curiosity))), and it's 35 dollars a month for a 256gb model iPhone x, which honestly isn't that bad but I'd rather wait for when I can actually afford it.
Jace Nguyen
Yes, with keyboards? So you have this big and thin phone with a keyboard.
Justin Miller
Nah m8 think of phones 10 years ago. Dog shit compared to now. We will plateau in maybe design for awhile but it will progress
Ian Fisher
Next innovation is going to be make-to-break bullshit. With no new technical innovation to lure in idiots, they'll just make it so that every single flagship model is going to break after 2 years of use (right after the warranty has expired). Every single moron who has bought these phones will immediately rush to buy another 0,5k-1k phone when their old one breaks. New phones will also have some cosmetic "upgrades" (changing colors or where the buttons are located) so that fuckfaces can show off to everyone that this is indeed the absolute newest 2kUSD iPhone Xd and not the least year's model
Parker Foster
The amazing thing is how these companies get you to buy these useless products that don't add any value to your life. The only advancement that modern smart phones brings over the nokia 1110 is a good GPS map application. Everything else is for you fucking moron kids to look at while you are out in the world instead of interacting with the world you are in like stupid zombie retards.
Daniel Ortiz
oh and a better camera as well.
Kevin Cook
oh and a better screen
Colton Campbell
>There is a reason why the Samsung Galaxy S9 and iPhone XS were only minor improvements to the Galaxy S8 and iPhone X. We have seen this before.
Camden Brooks
Yeah that too, but the screen was good enough generations earlier. "We have a better screen", "we have a better camera". These are all very minor increments that are massively exaggerated. You put any of the latest $1000 smartphones in low light situations and the camera still turns to complete shit.
Camden Ortiz
Is this a shitpost? That's exactly his point. Optimal design + end of Moore's Law means we won't see significant further progress relative to the current gen
Julian Anderson
Normalfag detected. How many times have you dropped your phone?
2018 and I've never dropped mine
Robert Phillips
Checked and Very much THIS
Gabriel Walker
The ARA/Phoneblock project, thought it's been killed by pajeets from jewgle.
Robert Hall
I just want pic related but with modern tech. Is that so much to ask for? Why is everyone producing identical slabs of glass? Where have the various form factors gone? Why have phones actively degraded in usability? Where are the phones that fit my hand and can be controlled comfortably without one looking like a child pawing away on an oversized toy?
