/pcbg/ - PC Building General

definitely worth it for productivity, and even for gaming it's easy to make that argument due to AM4 longevity.

Rate my build:
>R7 2700X
>ASRock x470 gaming k4
>ASUS 1080 ti @1735mhz
>g.Skill FlareX 3200 14-14-14-34
>Siliconpower Ace 55 256GB SSD
>HGST 3TB 7200rpm HDD
>Corsair vs650 psu
And then some ancient HP disk drive that I dug out of a junkyard

Are there any glaring flaws? Anything I should upgrade ASAP?
Also, are there any aftermarket coolers better than the prism wraith?
Normally I'd not even worry about it, but I lost the lottery and my Ryzen doesn't even hit its normal boost clock like it should. Mine maxes out at about 4.05GHz on all cores at 1.35V or 4.15 on a single core before it gets too hot.
At least, that's what Ryzen Master seems to be saying.

which 1070 Ti is the best bang for buck?

>AMD
enjoy your < 4 Ghz

r8

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galax exoc

Go back to installing security patches.

>8400
>6 threads
Obsolete in a year.

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Shitposting aside, does anyone actually have any suggestions? Did I really lose the silicone lottery, or is there something else at play here?

Silicon*
I know my periodic table, I swear

Is this a good deal for 375$
Core i5 6600, mobo Asus h150b, ram 8 GB ddr 4, hdd 2tb and a 24 inch monitor. I especially care if the mobo is useful and if I will have any problems in the future when I get a better cpu.

Hi all, need some help.
yuropoor putting together a very modest pc after rocking c2d for 9 years. Will the config below suffice, or is there something I should change/add?

PC principal use:
excel, word, PDF (multiple large files), heavy web browser use. I don't game, but might play few older games if I feel like it, hence the config without dedicated GPU:

MBO: ASRock B45M-PRO4
CPU: Ryzen 2400G
SSD: Samsung PM961 256 GB
HDD: Will use existing multiple HDDs
RAM: 8GB CL15 Kingston Predator some shit
PSU: Crosair 550W VS550
Case: all the same to me, picked out Fractal design Define mini black cause it looked nice

Now about igpu, this may seem a noobish question, but that's why I am here.
If there is no dedicated GPU card, does the graphic system use system RAM? If so, will 8GB be enough for entire system? Again, I don't game, I may spend 3% of PC usage on games.

Thanks for advice!

Yeah, or you can crack win7 with daz loader and upgrade to win10

>1080p
>obsolete in a year
my fucking sides

You shoud be able to choose how much ram you'll give to igpu, but it may depend on mobo. On msi b350 pc mate I can give it from something like 256M to 2G. And that ram will belong exclusively to igpu. Otherwise it seems mostly ok, you might want to make sure to pick 3000MHz+ ram.

What framerates tho

>8400
>6.9 ms frametime
>2600x
>13.2 ms
Thanks, I will buy the 8400

just make sure that the ram is compatible with your mobo and at least 2933mhz, ideally 3200. 450W PSU will suffice, 550 is unnecessary even if you had a dedicated GPU.
and make sure you install StoreMi.

Nobody's stopping you from buying inferior products.

>1080p/60 vidya, willing to make visual/performance compromises where needed
>pending upgrade when CP2077
thoughts?

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Go for it

>2080ti is bad value
>Outperforms Titan V
Really makes you think

I don't want used GPUs.

Should I get a $650 1080 Ti or wait for RTX 2080 to actually be $700 and get a $700 RTX 2080?

I am upgrading from a GTX 970.

Current thinking is AMD Ryzen-5 2600X
Tell me about the upcoming 9700K and why it deserves a mention in the pasta

Are there no micro ATX X470 boards?

If you replace the 2200G with 2600 and change the ram to a 2x4gb, you'll probably be at the same price and you won't have to upgrade your CPU later. Just add 2 more sticks of ram later and change the GPU.

Titan V was already awful value
>50% more expensive than 1080Ti
>at most 25% more performance

magic

RX Vega 7nm when?
>inb4 just wait™

So when can I look forward to playing games on 4k at 120hz or above? Look at 1440p 144hz, no card can consistently maintain those rates at ultra. I'm thinking I'll just get a PG279Q in late 2019 and a 7nm next gen card

Is an Intel G4560 compatible with a 1151-2 or just a 1151?

Let's pretend Rtx isn't a total meme.
Budget is 2200, it's a bonus so can't cash out.

M2 instead of SSD?
Mobo worth anything?
Did I fuck up something hilariously obvious?

I like orange, don't judge.

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>4k at 120hz
in 2030

I hope your monitor is 144hz

It was still recommended for 4K, nothing about bad value was written there

>implying this won't be a thing for atleast another year, at which point it will be delayed

It will be in the very near future.
(I've sprung a leak in my house, and have to fix that first. My original thought was budgeting it inside 2200 I get, but all parts seem woefully overpriced compared to five years ago).

But will that work? Let's say I go with pic related. Doesn't the DIMM Socket Support (2) mean that this ram will only work in a single pair? i.e. 2x4 + 2x4 is not supported?

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bump

based jewbro

Is a used GTX 770 2GB 256-bit for 112 EUR a good deal? Yes I'm a poorfag.

I need a solid 1080p/60FPS poorfag build, preferably AMD

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Why is everything still the sameprice or even more expensive
I need me a new rig fuck sake

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GTX series represents better value without dropping the price, so retailers don't have to. Used market is alot cheaper now, which is where the drops are. Drops probably won't be coming because cards are selling fine and production stopped/stops soon

How well will a 1070 hold up until the next Console release?
The GTX 970 (released sept. 2014 ) still holds up incredibly well considering that it's a 4 year old GPU, but seeing how devs do little to fuck all when optimizing games for PC, I honestly doubt that even a 1080 at 1440p medium settings will do 60+fps with future titles such as Cyberpunk and Red Dead. I'll mostly use the 1070 for playing through my backlog at 1440p with nice graphics but having a well-performing GPU to play some more recent AAA titles with would be nice as well.

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1070 will do 1080p 60fps in all games for a couple years, settings turned down to maybe low-medium for the worst offenders. 1440p, I bet you'd need to turn down settings already now for most demanding games.

Personally I'm getting a 1080ti for silky smooth 1080p 144hz-240hz

I haven't built a pc in almost a decade. Now I have to build a 1080p/60fps gaming pc for my little brother. How does this look?
If anyone got better websites that ship to Belgium I'm all ears.

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>nobody needs more than dual cores
lmao

State your budget

>used gtx 770
>112 euro
No. Fuck no.

€500-700 for the main parts, already have a monitor

You should go with a Seasonic PSU

Fucking kike UK prices
Have I gotten anywhere?
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/byk6KB
Not sure I can do much better than that for my price range, could swap the PSU, case or maybe HDD but that's not gonna save much
Fucking G-sync fucking kikish shit too

>poozen

Unless you need to save the space and cables or the ssd would be limited by 6Gb/s, m.2 is worse (temps, and you occupy the only high bandwidth slot by something that doesn't need it)

>buying an intel CPU at a time such as this
I'm not paying a shit tonne more for minimal gain
What actually is your problem with ryzen?
Do you have an actual gripe and recommendation, or are you a /v/edditor corporation shill?

You can get a 1050 for 150€ new.

Why? Does the build need more power?

Low tier Corsair PSU have bad rep.
Either go Platinium+ or go seasonic.

Not him, when I built my PC almost a decade ago Corsair was the shit, what happened?

It's still very good mostly.
But Corsair bronze+ and silver+ are not that great anymore. Gold+ are meh and platinium+ are still top of the line (aside from the red series, from memory AH-760i which is shit)

Ok thanks.

it.pcpartpicker.com/list/KTpGdX
I have a pc with i5 4670k, 24GB ram and a 270x toxic. I would switch my gpu into this and I'm currently thinking about using my old system for a home server. What do you think about it?

get 3200 ram and dont get a 1080, its such a waste of money
get a 1060 and you're good

pcpartpicker.com/list/RRgByX

Just a drop in quality then? shame
Still though, can't see why anyone wouldn't buy the best PSU you can, it's the component that will last you by far the longest, and you certainly dont want it to die and then kill your motherboard

x470 is overkill for a ryzen 5, a solid b450 will suffice

I was thinking 1440, but GPU has been my greatest concern
Half my mind is telling me to wait a couple years and get something else or a 1080ti for cheap, also Zen2, but I pity my 270x and my piece of shit i5

Planning to build a computer around a 1440p 144Hz G-Sync(ouch). Should I wait for Intel 9th gen?

>1440p 144Hz
Good luck with that. Only 2080ti could probably do it.

I get a fHz that high because I want to have a margin. I don't hope to get over 120Hz with most games. But I want to keep it for at least 5 years.
The question is not GPU but CPU related. For CPU intensive game mostly. And i7 for CPU intensive softs.

Wait for 9900k and put a watercooler on it for 5.5GHz...for a total of $600

8700k or 2600x with B-die RAM?
95% high refresh rate gaming. 5% productivity.

Thanks, no 8 gig VRAM ?

Kind of difficult with your budget, maybe someone else can help you with better list

8700k
Dont listen to the pajeets manipulating with muh security issues. My 8700k works the same since I got it a year ago

Do intel shills have stockholm syndrome? 2600 with B-die RAM trades blows with 8700k even if B-die RAM is more expensive, 8700k is also way more expensive than 2600

Any idea when they come out? Not worth getting a 8086k for that sweet 5.0GHz on one core non-OC'd?

lol no, forget about 8086k, 9th gen in october

Appreciated, thank you.

9900k is i9 and is worth 750$ apparently. With a AIO he will have to pay around 850-900$. An i9 won't serve anyone but professionals.

>cpu package was already open
cucked by amazon

So which performs better in games.
8700k or 2600/x with B-die RAM?

8700k is better but it;s like twice as expensive

Is the Crossfire meme worth it? I get that normally I'd be better off buying one good GPU, but I'm running an ancient R9 380 and I could get an another one for pretty cheap. In theory, 2x R9 380 would be almost as good as a GTX 1070 in games that support it. What kind of performance gains could I realistically expect? 80% better performance in the 50% of games that support Crossfire? Or would I be in for a microstuttering hell with almost no real gains?

What are some small 10-12cm height and relatively silent (Noctua level of silence) coolers to keep a 2600 at a steady 4.0-4-2Ghz overclock and a temperature not exceeding 60 C? Budget is around 50 Eurodollars.
Currently have pic related but there's no way I can overclock with it and it still runs at a 62 to 65C while gaymen due to poor case airflow. Not much I can do about it as i've got a relatively small case.

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Fuck intel if this is gonna be the case.

No, CF/SLI is pretty much dead, sell the 380 and with the money get a solid new GPU

The price difference between 8700 and 2600x for me is 150 euros.
The price difference between 3200, CL15 and B-die 3200 CL14 RAM is 70 euros for me.

Considering my build I am making costs 1500-2000 euros, 75~ euros price differnce between one build and the other, I wouldn't say it's "twice as expensive"

I just need to know which is better and by how much.

>Currently have pic related but there's no way I can overclock with it and it still runs at a 62 to 65C while gaymen due to poor case airflow. Not much I can do about it as i've got a relatively small case.
Yikes, mean while my cpu doesn't exceed 55C while heavy gaming.