Stop complaining OpenBSD doesn't have all the features you want and either donate to the project or implement them...

Stop complaining OpenBSD doesn't have all the features you want and either donate to the project or implement them yourselves, faggots.

openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html

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BSD is a solution to a problem no one has.
Need a server? Use Linux
Need a gaming OS? Use Windows
Need to prop open your bathroom door? Buy a macbook

Everything has its place.
What's your place, BSD?
Oh right... under Linux.

Started the journey by installing 6.3 in a vm yesterday. I switched to Linux 10 years ago cuz it met my needs, I can switch again.

Cringe

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>says "cringe"
>uses Comic Sans MS

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"lack of features" isn't what rules OpenBSD out of my consideration. It's the super-short release cycle and the BSD "base system" concept, where you get none of that vaunted security support for anything that isn't "theirs".

>he doesn't know about the Comics Sans OpenBSD tradition

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>using an example from 1998 to prove a point in 2018
You could've at least tried.

>"base system" concept, where you get none of that vaunted security support for anything that isn't "theirs".

That's not true. For instance, many important and popular ports have been pledged
undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160107075227

>does not weaponize Comic Sans

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>Need a server? Use Linux
Why

Modern designs

Wait till you find out about the rest of the inside jokes

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This is one of the most alluring things ive seen/heard about OpenBSD... perhaps i should look into this just because of this inside joke!

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Well one, you only get anything at all for ports. They tell you to use packages, but then disclaim any responsibility for them:

openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#Intro
>The OpenBSD ports team considers packages to be the goal of their porting work, not the ports themselves. In general, you are advised to use packages over building an application from ports. Security updates are the exception to this rule, as they are only available via ports. Binary packages for -release and -stable are not updated.

Also I note you say nothing about the other point, the short, six-month release cycle. Actually its worse, since only the current release gets anything outside the base system:

openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html#PortsSecurity
>When serious bugs or security flaws are discovered in third party software, they are fixed in the -stable branch of the ports tree. In contrast to the base system, the -stable ports tree only gets security backports for the latest release.

Now tell me, why would I want this rapid-release mess over Debian, where I get 2 and a half years or so of security support for everything, without having to care at all whether it's "base system" or third-party, and without having to make sure I install a port instead of a package (silly distinction, IMO, just like the whole base-system concept) to get security patches. Oh yeah, and then once the release has been superseded, I get another year of security support from the Debian folks themselves, after which I get another year or two from the LTS-project people. Oh yeah, and when I do upgrade to the next release, its simpler and easier.

Literally don't listen to that user and don't use openBSD
It's for the best of everyone involved
Actually, anyone in this thread, please do NOT install openBSD unless you plan to donate to the project

>Need a server? Use Linux
Most servers run Windows, you cringey NEETs.

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Ignore this guy. Install openBSD. Make sure to flood misc with questions, hardware compatibility issues and feature requests

>servers and gaming are the only things people use computers for.

You do realize that there are actual people that will do that, right?
We get some meme material, sure, but arguably the only relevant open source project doesn't get to work on its goals

Don't listen this guy. OpenBSD is not a fucking SJW shitfest like linux and community is more welcoming to free speech in their mailinglists.

>wintoddler delusion
Your AD trash doesn’t count.

>more == better

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Want a non-tranny, FOSS OS? OpenBSD suits that purpose.

You've never walked into a corporate data center, have you?

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t. Seething linux autist that wants all other projects to fail because his got cucked

whats the point? as soon as we do make BSD an acceptable alternative some trannyniggers and kikes are going to do a hostile take over and rename BSD to BBC

True and they even allow virtual hugs at OpenBSD-misc.

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Open source has failed. Anything open source, especially with a notable public figure has no defence against these trannies.

DESU OpenBSD user but just thinking how these Jow Forums guys will be BTFO by Theo DeRaadt gives me a boner

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>Also I note you say nothing about the other point,

Because my intention was never to convince you to use X, just to disagree with you on that particular point. It's obvious that if the release cycle doesn't work for you that's a deal breaker and you should use what works best for you. OpenBSD it's made by the developers for the the developers, the six-month cycle and treating the base system as a whole makes their work easier. But of course, is going to be annoying for other users.

See

Should I go with openbsd or netbsd?

Install DragonflyBSD

Different projects with vastly different goals

They're both great choices. Flip a quarter.

>rename BSD to BBC
kek

i kind of wish everyone here still hated OBSD

then we can do our thing quietly

oh thank god, fpbp

Isnt this just one part of servers?
Things Companies like Google, Facebook, Amazon, Akamaii are not included?

It's literally a single companies servers. Wintoddlers are easily confused morons.

The BSD world is extremely schizophrenic for a desktop user when it comes to third-party software.

FreeBSD: Ports tree is sane with regard to release cycles, but FreeBSD developers can't even be bothered Capsicumizing browsers. Actually, they still haven't even bothered to Capsicumize gzip/gunzip, which are run as root before integrity checks in portsnap, freebsd-update, etc. Akshuallllllly, they still haven't even bothered to add ASLR to base like every fucking other modern OS, including Windows, so expecting security treats outside of base is probably a lost cause.

OpenBSD: Pretty much what you said, which amounts to "Use packages, not ports. Use ports, not packages." On the other hand, you get Pledged browsers and whatnot, but the inconvenient policies for third-party software mean it's like being given Fort Knox provided that you scrub the floors with a toothbrush every N months. And don't forget too that the OpenBSD ports team lacks the manpower that other projects have, so the -stable security backports are likely to be delayed and incomplete.

web hipster detected

>it's like being given Fort Knox provided that you scrub the floors with a toothbrush every N months
this perfectly expresses how I feel about it actually

In what ways would a regular desktop user who currently uses Linux find BSD to be a better environment

No longer have to deal with PulseAudio / ALSA

Is anyone else just over it? Like say we all contribute and BSD becomes as popular as Linux, what's to stop trannys from infesting this project too?

>when he sees your CoC

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More users is better, retard!

The correct answer is to use -current and pkg_add -u.

Don't be fooled, NetBSD is SJW too. Just not FreeBSD tier.
OpenBSD is literally the only choice.
>pic related, former NetBSD developer, founded Void Linux

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Wait, so that's what happened to him??

Sometimes I feel the same but then I remember that's how they want me to feel.

Install GentooBSD

>2018
where's WINE support, assholes?

ask the wine devs

They used to hardcode the 404 page of their embedded webserver to use Comic Sans, to piss off web snobs.

wine devs are ok with all other bsd's though

Watched too much porn and started wanting to become the woman

>too many "post gifs that make you wanna suck dick" threads on /gif/

Windows for servers really isn't that bad. Linux is still easier to manage, but Windows isn't a show stopper.

>Linux
>easier to manage
>than Windows
Not in your wildest dreams!

God damn he is not wrong, but holy fuck is windows server aids. I am a consultant and have to fix the major fuckups the in house retards do to their systems, and it is almost all windows servers (or windows servers running in a rack station server running BSD) and it is the real cancer.

OpenBSD isn't cucked like everything you're suggesting instead.

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Dumb animuposter.

>Jow Forums
>animu

Isnt a bsd based os used on consoles and mac? If so wouldnt that make bsd the most used operating system? If not one of the most used

i want to kick puffy in the face

If openbsd supported wine (if it gave me a way to install steam and play a gayme) I'd switch in a heartbeat.

Mac OS isn't BSD-based, it's XNU and NeXTSTEP based. It borrowed a bit of code from FreeBSD a long time ago, but not enough to make it BSD-based.

The one feature that OpenBSD doesn't have (and I'm glad it doesn't) is a restrictive Code of Conduct.

it's missing a bunch of features

Some of those are in the name of design (monolithic kernels), others are in the name of freedom (blobs), and yet others are in the name of security.

If they have the Thinkpad EC/power management stuff down right, I'm bound to try it.

>former
Great argument there