>What is GNU Hurd? The GNU Hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. It is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are implemented by the Unix kernel.
>How can I contribute? You can write code and documentation. Even if you can't, you can use Hurd and help the project by detecting bugs and errors in the software.
maybe I should study the structure of this thing first
Dominic Rodriguez
theoretically speaking, can you take gnu-mach and make something else on top of it?
James Morris
>$ su >$ startx >blah blah >Cannot open keyboard (no such file or directory) >xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
huh?
David Bell
so there's no links or lynx either, how the fuck am i supposed to browse the internet from inside the console to download scripts/pkgs? just using fucking wget and python? fuck you
Robert Roberts
You can start by changing your sources.list to a generic sid list, apt update and apt dist-upgrade, because lynx, links and links2 are all available for hurd.
Bentley Nguyen
so apparently from the #hurd chatlogs you have to downgrade xkeyboard-configuration to 2.5ish to start X
so I wrote a python script to scrape the .deb links from the debian.org mirror and wget them. and then installed them with dpkg
BUT X STILL DOESN'T START AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
there's a reason why stallman hijacked the linux kernel.
Jack Rodriguez
user have you managed to start x? if so tell me how please I'm going insane
David Scott
>ctrl+f irc >0 found /join me Jow Forumsuise on freenode.net, channel #4churd
Leo Wood
I'm on my way
Hudson Kelly
It's overwhelmingly shitty.
Kayden Long
Is there a chance it boots on ARM/MIPS? I need something to replace Linux-Libre on my non-x86 systems.
Samuel Morales
>What is GNU Hurd?
A piece of shit that will never be good and hasn't been for nearly 3 decades+. Whoever thought a multiserver OS was a smart thing is a retard.
Ryan Ortiz
>Whoever thought a multiserver OS was a smart thing is a retard. mach, the same fucking microkernel that is inside of Hurd, runs inside MacOS and all ishit products.
Angel Morgan
Can we talk about why a quasi-hybrid multiserver micro kernel like the HURD is better than, say, Minix or a true Hybrid like NT?
very close to giving up on the whole fixing x11 thing, I'm just gonna boot a premade virtual image if it doesn't work in the next couple of attempts
Carter Thomas
gnusocial is as secure as the owners of the servers are, because gnu doesn't host it/ >mastodon no thanks, I don't want to give them my email or create an account just to chat. If that was the case, i'd be on reddit. any more quiestions?
Michael Sullivan
Why does stallmann actually use Linux when debian gnu/hurd exists? I never heard of it existence before.
why? you should be able to guess why he doesn't use hurd from these
Colton Morales
>If that was the case, i'd be on reddit. >any more quiestions? You don'T need an email to post on plebbit
Chase Rogers
Stallman unironically can't even install GNUL himself. And struggles to use LIbre Powerpoint because "he didn't make it so he doesn't understand how it works". The FSF know Hurd is a waste of time, which is why Linux being a "stop-gap" is as true as captchas here being "temporary".
Jaxson White
you do, since 2015 or something
t, redditor
Julian Martinez
>t, jesus christ
Jonathan Bailey
Stallman only uses Emacs. He lives inside of Emacs, since Emacs can do basically anything. He doesn't even use gcc/gdb/glibc/hundreds of other tools that he himself created anymore.
cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/latest/hurd-i386/YES_REALLY_README.txt I got stuck at ext2fs in the beginning, but then I used kvm -net user,hostfwd=tcp:127.0.0.1:2222-:22 -net nic -drive file=debian-hurd-20171101.img,cache=writeback -m 1G and now it's working fine. no X yet, because I didn't try it, but everything else works fine.
Carter Lopez
>no X yet, because I didn't try it, but everything else works fine. It JUST Works(tm)
Press Alt Gr+Shift+8(not on the numpad) to insert ™.
Gavin Robinson
how'd you do it?
also >tux wallpaper on a HURD system ree
Austin Thomas
>how'd you do it? you're going to hate me, I used "startx", kek.
The X has some problems, as I said to the other guy who is in irc, I cannot open a terminal emulator, I cannot logout and the background disappeared when I went from gtk to gtk2 themes.
Jonathan Cook
is plan9 full microkernel?
Ethan Torres
no. they say it's a hybrid approach, just like windows kernel. also "working state: unknown"
Chase Wood
If any of you niggers are rich please just donate like $10 million to make Hurd actually usable.
what does it matter, the end result will forced to be GPL anyway
Mason Myers
I heard a podcast somewhere about sony's programmer team using an 80s proprietary compiler with garbage cstandards support to write the PS3's OS from scratch in a year. same with PS4, they did it in less than a year with clang and modified freeBSD into the graphics monster we see now.
I'm willing to bet that for 10 million dollars you would easily get a professional programmers who would rewrite HURD and make it better or equal to than linux for arm/amd64. maybe RMS should try to hire some of those starving CS students at eastern european universities.
John Watson
gentoo used to have a hurd distro, it's ded now
Bentley Davis
you'll have to keep a seperate branch and have to do the work of porting patches from the bsd one to your gpl. changing the license and making gpl patches results in a completely different dev tree. not worth it.
