Just got this free. I hope it can be of use at lan parties with quake or something, but are these good for anything now? Were they good back in their day? This one has 1ghz g4, 1gb ram, and radeon 7500. It seems a lot more sluggish than pcs with similar specs.
I know some people remember the powerpc era fondly, but why?
>x86 year old being delusional as usual Go suck more Intel cock
Juan Roberts
I tried installing Ubuntu and Fedora but neither of them displayed anything on the crt after installing. Even if I do install it, the computer is really slow anyway and i just want to use it for old games.
back in 2004, i just thought of the macs as inferior computers. I probably enjoy them more now as a curiosity than I would have as a tool back then. I will say this emac has a lovely screen! How anyone preferred the LCD imac G4 to this is beyond me.
Evan Wilson
Honestly, PPC Macs might be one of our only way to escape the Jewish x86-64 botnet. Install Linux and be on your way.
i don't prefer the sierra theme to the tiger one, but the app store thing looks cool if maybe sketchy. but i have nothing on this computer besides sauerbraten so i'll give it a try.
Jonathan Torres
>It seems a lot more sluggish than pcs with similar specs. >macshit Found your problem.
Wyatt Kelly
As a coder from that era this article is #FakeNews. The G3's and G5's really were faster than contemporary x86 chips, even if you used the best compilers on both.
>I know some people remember the powerpc era fondly, but why? comfy OS no sjws no codes of conduct far fewer pajeets normies weren't really on the internet code was expected to be efficient and you were rewarded for efficient code if you wrote assembler PowerPC offered a sane instruction set
Honestly, aside from sjws the thing that makes me hate modern computing the most is code bloat. As but one example an old version of Office on a G5 with a hdd will run circles around modern Office on a quad core i7 with an ssd. That's pathetic.
Aiden Turner
>It seems a lot more sluggish than pcs with similar specs. X was happiest with a G5. If you can boot Mac OS 9 it's not as stable but far faster.
I think at this point I just wish I could get hold of a Quad G5 so I can kit it out with max memory, Sonnet SSD cards and a decent gpu. Most of them going on eBay etc. are ridiculously overpriced though.
Joshua Morris
OK, i have been trying to install the classic environment here in 10.4 for hours and have made no progress. As I understand it, you're supposed to take the Mac OS 9.2 system folder and extract it to the root of your OS X boot drive, then open the Classic panel in system preferences and select that folder from this list.
I tried 9.2 files from two different .dmg files - a system install disk and OS9General.dmg, but I can not get that directory to show up in the control panel. So I can't select it. Sometimes Classic tries to boot from the image itself, but it won't work because the image is read only. If I eject the image and try to start an OS 9 app, I just get an error saying no system folder is detected. Even though I have a whole OS 9 install disk on the root! What the hell?
Dead link. Also i have the 2004 emac that won't install OS 9. I would like to do that if I had an earlier model. Funny thing, the DVD drive is broken and the OS X install disk cannot be ejected. I have actually never seen it. I could replace the drive though.
Lucas Walker
It's been a long-ass time since I worked with a Mac capable of running OS 9 even in Classic mode, but if I'm not mistaken, OS 9's System Folder had to be "blessed" (special HFS flag IIRC) so the Mac could recognize it as Mac OS. There are also some things that OS X supports that can trip up OS 9/Classic, like case-sensitive HFS+.
Damn this makes me nostalgic. I need to hit up craigslist and find an old powerbook or something.
Isaiah Butler
wait...if it's an HFS flag but I am using a UNIX format file system, can I use classic at all?
Dylan Reyes
Why would you not use HFS, baka?!
Isaac Gray
Also, here is a little tip for anyone who wants to fool around with these things. Maybe you can easily get fast drives on the g5s or a cf card in the laptops, but the eMac is a pain because its usb is version 1.1 and it has an IDE hard drive, which can not be replaced unless you want to tear the whole thing apart, because the drive is actually in the center of the computer and not in the memory access bay. This slow ass hard drive will limit you no matter what you are doing, and when you are trying a bunch of different programs and images out, it will cost you hours. You can get a faster drive by buying a firewire sata enclosure, but what I'm doing is using the nearby PC. Most of the software it runs is on the PC's sata hard drive. Even for something like stuffit expander, the 1 ghz g4 is still bottlenecked by the hard drive. Your choice is IDE (133 mbps which is still faster than the drive), 100 mbps Ethernet, and ideally 400 mbps firewire. I don't really want to spend money on this though. If I spend $20 I could have had a better computer.
No, that's not gonna work. Mac OS 9 can only boot off of HFS or HFS+, Classic or otherwise.
Leo Howard
have fun. i picked up as a out of nowhere gift a g3. i also ended up adopting a g4 and g5.
Joshua Robinson
i will try making a new partition.
Aaron Howard
He's right, but it's the only thing that works 100% of the time with Macs.
Sebastian Cooper
Might work, but I wouldn't recommend even booting OS X off of UFS. While UFS was technically supported and worked, it was never optimized and ran like crap. Lots of applications will bug out on UFS, too. The only reason it really existed was for compatibility with old school *NIX stuff that couldn't cope with HFS.
I finally booted classic by creating a blank read/write disk image with disk utility and putting the system folder in there. this should work regardless of the host file system, although UFS wouldn't let me make one bigger than 3GB, i guess it will be ok for a few games.
Ethan Ortiz
I own a Quad G5 as a daily driver. It's using less than 1.5GB of RAM with my usual set of programs open. Maxing RAM is pointless.
Got my dad's old powerbook G4 lying about somewhere, is it worth buying a new battery and booting up again? I fondly remember playing Deimos Rising and Otto Mattic on the old PPC machines.
Caleb Richardson
i'm sure he is using tenfourfox. personally i don't even try to browse on the emac. tenfourfox is horribly slow, camino is faster but is 7 years out of date and can't captcha, pretty much everything else is a joke afaik. i didn't try every browser in that ppc app store but i have no interest.
Joshua Torres
CRT Mac's were based. The only Apple products I ever wanted.
Julian Young
Leopard WebKit and Roccat are still good.
Wyatt Myers
It's never a bad thing to find new uses for old hardware! You're keeping it out of a dump for a little while longer and deriving some value from it.
>x86 year old wangtard thinks he is superior to anyone Wangblows is by far the worst OS for any architecture or machine. Only pajeets and boomers are retarded enough to touch it. You call PPC machines toys, yet wangblows, your favourite OS, is used for playing with toys (computer games).
Bentley Parker
Why are these threads always so full of retards
Cooper Butler
The goy in that video is running wangblows, though.
Logan Price
>t. SEETHING mactoddler
Hunter Long
Okay, wangtard. Just go back to your pajeet OS and play with your toys.
This is why I only use a watercooled AMD/Nvidia gaming rig. If I'm gonna get my game on I don't want to have to worry about overheating my military grade components.
He's probably a wangtard. That gamer pajeet OS has no value.
Wyatt Reyes
I was replying to you, you manchild appletoy gaymer faggot.
Jaxson Johnson
No you weren't, scroll up. You need to stop with the epic RGB gaming, it's turning your brain to mush, wangtard.
Christopher Richardson
If I were you I'd buy the original apple kdyboard and mouse. I mean for me the only thing I like avobout old powerpcs is their apple aesthetics. These powerPCs are extremely fucking slow, don't have wifi and aren't compatible with anything unless you install linux. Then it's your choice if you want to install os9/x or linux, I'd go with os9 since it's the fastest available os in these devices.
Eli Edwards
Why would you ever want to use wifi?
Adrian Gutierrez
>it's an appletard subhuman thinks he belongs on Jow Forums episode cringe
>he's seriously defending wangblows Imagine being you.
Cameron Torres
You must be 12 to think that the early 2000s apple is the same as the 2018 apple. Also you're as retarded as the intel/amd/nvidia shitposters, fuck off to v
Camden Cooper
>any negative remark about apple is defending migrosert The ABSOLUTE state of appletoddler manchildren.
>OS 10.3 wasn't POSIX compliant, therefore Mac OS in 2018 is not POSIX compliant How can you be this retarded? You're definitely a wangtard.
Blake Collins
>the 12 year old appletoddler is both technology illiterate and plain old illiterate Keep on using your cocksmoking OS that's been only compliant for 2 years out of its 15 years of existence while lying about it. LMAO