Mozilla deprecated XUL, now uses WebExtensions

NoScript doesn't work. Firefox removed the API that allowed JS to be disabled.

Giorgio found a workaround to block JS but it's never disabled. ABE and ClearClick are missing.

>did it really actually matter in the long run?
Well, they broke the extensions that gave FF abilities other browsers didn't have. Now it's next to nothing.

Firefox' market share just kept dropping in favour of Chrome. So yes or no, depending on how you see it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Disabling javascript is built into the browser. If you're doing it for security and privacy (i.e. tor) you'll want to disable it globally in the browser anyways. If you want per domain than blocking it is fine.

Yes, some power users are sticking to forks or even old versions
Hopefully Mozilla will make new APIs to cover all the missing functionality, but so far they go incredibly slow and even seem unwilling to do it

Firefox can still do way more than other browsers though. Even with current APIs. And it's still being developed and will continue to be developed. They are basically writing a new browser.

>>everything thought the world will end
Firefox world has ended for me.
t. thing

?
There are apps that do the same exact thing

you know firefox dropped below 5% market share right?

people didnt stop using firefox because extension frameworks were being deprecated, at least not in any noticeable numbers

>so...did it really actually matter in the long run?
To me it did, I stopped using it

they killed firebug, downthemall, etc and lost every webdev and power user overnight

by 2020 mozilla will be like circa 2000 apple or amd where their competitors give them pity money so they don't like look monopolies

>Vim style extensions should be working fully by v68
Every time I try tridactyl, it's still broken in some way.

google (and now yahoo) did that for years, if that stopped, they'd fold overnight

in 2020 their google/yahoo contracts end, but i bet google renews because they want to keep firefox around

What can it do "way more" than the obvious thing, chrome / chromium?

> it's still being developed and will continue to be developed
You know, not addressing the required API/ABI for downloader extensions [which were among the very most popular extensions, right after ad blockers] for over a year suggests they currently don't really give a fuck about making at least the most popular extensions work again.

Instead you got what, "improvements" to the pocket adware crap?

>What can it do "way more" than the obvious thing, chrome / chromium?
about:config for example. Chromium browsers don't give you this much control over so many aspects of the browser.

>muh session restore
You're just like the retard who complained about screenshot addon not being available. It's already built into the fucking browser, idiot.

FF STILL has a lot more abilities than chromium browsers.

Noscript sucks now
Greasemonkey became unusable

Recognize more protocols
Block more elements of webpages
More useful built-in tools

The only place where Firefox loses to chrome shit is speed, but it's not difficult to have speed when you lack a ton of features. Security and privacy-wise, Firefox is still better and probably always will be.

Blocking scripts with umatrix or ublock origin will make page loading faster. I have all of my settings saved and it's fast af. Even without blocking scripts its still fast though.

>Bank switches authentication method to work with new FF because Java does t work anymore
>Took me fucking 6 hours to get it working
>In total had to use 3 cellphones, 2 laptops, reinstalled old IE, 2 one time pins, 2 certificates with their passwords, 2 pass codes emailed to 2 different email addresses, a banking app, a new pin, a new password and about 20 authorisations requiring me to enter passwords and browse to certificates on 2 different banking profiles
Business banking is hell

>tfw yesterday i finishes yet another improvement to my private 52esr fork, no more ssd trashing (cache[s] and session are now aware of their internal changes and only request write2disk if needed every once in a while, and the data is all compressed anyway)
>mozilla told me to fuck off with my patches a couple of years ago
fucking lmaoing as i write this blog post

Link to that pull request?

Funny, old Firefox was certainly slower than Chrome but i can't feel any difference between Quantum and Chrome.

I still haven't updated past 56. Probably should jump on a fork but I'm not ready to lose the majority of my add-ons which aren't updating to WebExtension.

Is Firefox ESR SAFE???

DOWNTHEMALL STILL HASN'T BEEN RE-WRITTEN FOR QUANTUM WEBEXT. THAT'S WHY I AM STUCK WITH AN OLD 52.9 ESR SO I CAN DOWLOADS WALLPAPER FROM /wg/

FUCK WEBEXT

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You could also just switch over to Waterfox like how any non-cuck has already done

DTL and all other classic vanilla extensions work flawlessly and dev will soon release a standalone library for addons separate from the cucked NuZilla one

Yeah, it matters. Everybody uses waterfox now.

I can feel the difference between Firefox and Brave.

Imo Mozilla should have started the process years back and gradually phased out access to the low level APIs over the course of a few years. Getting everything on WebExtensions in like a year was just too quick.

It's as fast as chromium with ublock and umatrix installed on both. They already implemented that rendering trick that chrome was using to look faster.

no idea i ditched it long ago

>Everybody

>It's as fast as chromium
Great, now make it as fast as brave.

nobody cares

>nobody cares about speed
Kys

Brave is now based off of chromium. Why would it be faster? Btw I just tested and it's about the same speed as my firefox setup.

WILL YOU FAGS STOP FORGETTING ICECAT

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It's significantly faster on Linux.

Not in my experience. And it's just chromium there wouldn't be a difference.

>FF STILL has a lot more abilities than chromium browsers.

elaborate

Didn't make a difference to me since I stopped using Firefag five years ago.

>no private tabs

Into the trash it goes.

Nothing is safe.

alias 4c="wget -P ~/porn -H -nd -r --wait=5 -erobots=off -D i.4cdn.org -A "*.jpg,*.png,*.gif,*.webm" -R "*s.jpg""

Download Star might work for you, but yeah, switch to Waterfox you rock-dweller.

why do you need private tabs unless you're 12 and share a computer with mommy and daddy?

>implying mozilla will not reduce the control capabilities over the coming years
The reduction of user control has been going on for quite a bit already and the removal of xul without any plans to implement an equivalent makes this obvious

>I use kosher FF

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About config entries are sometimes being renamed or removed, in modern firefox (62) privacy settings changes so fast that is easy to end having telemetry after an update cause they keep changing the entries or reducing their effectiveness.

chromium based browsers have chrome:flags ( for vivaldi there are two different ones vivaldi:flags and vivaldi:experiments) with useful features like parallel downloading, enable extensions on chrome urls, pip, overlay scrollbars, automatic tab discarding, disable new media controls (to get a media player that suits better the pc version) and more.

Anything on userchrome.css/js can be done using the common.css and bundle.js on vivaldi and the problem where chromium browsers can't block data uris have been resolved some time ago too.

I'm still using waterfox but i'm testing other browsers just in case.

You're trolling if you think chrome flags are even close to about:config. Quantum or not. Or you're just seriously ignorant.

about:config is getting worse by the day and chrome:flags albeit more limited still have some interested features.

Try enabling parallel downloading using firefox about:config...

Obviously the same can be said for a lot of stuff that can be done on about:config that are not available on chrome:flags but i don't thrust mozilla to keep about:config as useful as it is in the long term.

It's significantly faster, I enabled hardware acceleration and omtp too on it as well on linux. Use the ESR.

There are some stats on wikipedia.
Looks like they dropped a little over 4%
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#StatCounter_(July_2008_to_July_2018)

Daily reminder that Firefox is for faggots only.

Thanks for looking that up, I was busy making coffee.

There is also absolutely NOTHING wrong with ungoogled-chromium as an alternative.

Waterfox and ungoogled-chromium are the two best, and most viable privacy browsers that don't shill for trannies and niggers. The champions of their respective webkits.

Can't wait till it's below 10%, but only if it's not counting usage of forks.

What about Iridium and Brave?

It's Waterfox & IceCat. People need to stop leaving it out.

Iridium is the inferior version of ungoogled-Chromium, and Brave is questionable.

It might honestly be doing that. A common privacy practice is to mask your forked browser's user agent as the mainstream browser instead, for privacy through obscurity.
I don't know anything about Iridium other than that it's behind Chromium on security. Pic related. And Chromium 69 is already in development and available for bleeding edge enthusiasts.
Brave is shit on desktop. It's not bad on mobile, when I checked it out 4 years ago, and there is no ungoogled-chromium for android, the last one we had was abandoned over a year ago. So on mobile I would use probably Brave or Waterfox. Waterfox on android is a bit buggy for some people though. I can't paste from clipboard into Jow Forums replies, and I have to take extra steps to add search engines to waterfox on android. But it has extensions, and it renders well. Just wish the dev would care more about linux and android than fucking Windows 10.

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IceCat is by GNU eh? Stallman has proven himself to be pretty headstrong against the trannies and their Linux COC, I'd probably trust that. I might actually try it out and use it sometime.
Ouuuu, looks like it's on F-Droid! Thanks user, I will have to give this one a much closer look.

Fucking hilarious.

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Works on my machine.

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I mean, they totally fucked themselves on the privacy and freedom front, and they fucked themselves on the extension front, and even Edge is faster, and Chrome is STILL faster and more efficient after Quantum. Their performance claims didn't meet their actual results at all.

Safari has more than twice the share, and Edge is only 0.1% behind Firefox. No wonder they're on damage control.
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It's 69.0.3497.92 for stable.
packages.debian.org/search?keywords=chromium
While regular Chrome.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
Is 69.0.3497.100
I'd say that's good enough if you look for the same engine and sandboxing.
Debian Chromium still has a few Google features like right-click to image search.

10 seconds into IceCat on android and I like it better than Waterfox on Android. Thanks.
But how the fuck do I re-enable javascript? I know it's a retarded thing, but I do use the internet and need it on certain sites. If I can enable it on a site by site basis I'd be happy.
>chromium
no no wrong chromium.
github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
That chromium pages to google. The ungoogled chromium is on 69 too though, you're right, but I'm using a bit of a dated binary that I installed quickly for the sake of my wireshark testing, cause building from source was taking too long. I'm on a fresh install.

>But how the fuck do I re-enable javascript? I know it's a retarded thing, but I do use the internet and need it on certain sites. If I can enable it on a site by site basis I'd be happy.
You disable every add-on it installs by default and replace them with better equivalents.
Turn of LibreJS and install uMatrix as you would normally. Turn off Spyblock and install uBlock Origin. Turn of HTTPS Everywhere and install HTTPS By Default.
The default addon setup is one of its few flaws, but easily rectified.

*off
don't know why I messed it up twice; kind of tired

Of course, because Stallman WOULD permablock every bit of closed source content from ever touching his web browser. At least it's still a nice browser.

Oh no, his mobile browser is on 52.6 and not updated in 6 months... Fennec for F-Droid and Waterfox might be my only options

Stallman has nothing to do with any of the GNU projects in decades.
52 is the last classic ESR. It's functionally not that different to 56.

uMatrix isn't compatible with it. I mean, I'll keep it installed as an alternative to Fennec, and see which fares better within a week or two of use.

This is android I'm looking at here, and not desktop too, btw.

Oh god, fennec is Mozilla's product, fuck. Nevermind that.
I think I even remember seeing that before and avoiding it because of that. Oh well, will see how I like IceCat on this, I'll probably end up using that.

>uMatrix isn't compatible with it.
Install an older version that is compatible.
IceCat is good, so fine choice.

github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/releases/tag/1.1.4
Unfortunately he stopped updating the non webex version.

That's okay, I haven't even used it on android much, because the touch interface is too unweildly. Tap hamburger, tap umatrix, opens new tab, change settings, switch tabs, refresh, ugh. I'll probably just use icecat without it on android if I have to.

Yes.
Open-with now requires godawful work-around to be usable at all.
CTR customization is extremely limited.
Bamboo Feed Reader will never be updated and every single alternative is fucking shit.
Also, is there any menu editor for current version? Hell if I know. Fuck mozilla and fuck retards who supported chromification of formerly the best browser.

>fuck retards who supported chromification of formerly the best browser
Trannies, user. They're trannies. They took the company over in about 2014, and have been on a mission to destroy it ever since.

he was referring to the users

Right, of course. Just normies.

first post best post

You can't claim something is better when half the users hate it.

I just want a nice simple QR addon for palemoon, why are those not a thing

firefox's extension api is a superset of chrome's, and is still being actively extended and developed

anybody who says "chromium clone" don't really know what they're talking about

They still haven't fixed the memory leaks, and I don't how people can invest in Firefox if Mozilla overthrowing years of legacy support in the window.

Chromium forks don't radically change as much as Firefox does, that's a big reason why People will support those Chromium ecosystem.