Redbull me on single monitors vs. multiple monitors

Imo a large ultrawide works better than multiple smaller monitors.

>two monitors are stupid, you have to turn your head and it takes several seconds to finish that motion.
if you can't set up two monitors so you don't have to turn your head you may be stupid yourself

Three is preferable: one for code, one for the active application, and one for debugging. A sufficiently-large monitor can do a lot of this pretty easily if your WM is any good with tiling, though

Batman pls go

Workspaces can help a lot too. I have multiple computers today, but I'm still in a bit of a single monitor mode by using workspaces and tiling. Second monitor is usually for stuff I don't need a dedicated monitor for, like movies or games.

Your eyes are only capable of seeing a very small area of the screen at any moment.

The balance between having dozens of monitors and a single tiny three inch screen is moving your eyes vs using the keyboard/mouse to change what's displayed on the screen.

Your eyes can comfortable move a few degrees faster than you can hotkeys to switch windows, so you do want a screen large than a few inches. If your screen space is too large however, then you'll need to move your eyes an uncomfortable amount off center or tilt your neck to see the edge of the screen. Also, moving your eyes from the very left of your vision to the very right is much more expensive. At that point, using hotkeys to switch windows is cheaper.

So there's a balance in the middle for the ideal screen size.

Then, there's the question of whether you want to achieve the ideal screen size using one large monitor or multiple small monitors. Obviously a single monitor is better, less wires, no bezel, have the option of viewing things full screen.

You don't need two monitors for that though.

/thread.

>Switching tabs and changing view between applications is better than switching attention between different monitors

Nah, you're just a fucking brainlet with special snowflake excuses.

First of all I don't agree that switching with hotkeys is faster. It's about the same, and the time for the brain to recognize is not limited by the physical movement of the eyes, it's limited by the context switching speed. Try to compare two large webpages by pressing alt tab or control tab repeatedly and by looking back and forth between two monitors.

Second of all, the brain tends to associate an object's location and its memory, so having a certain thing in a certain place makes it more comfortably memorized. Not to mention, having multiple things available but not necessarily visible may keep it in your "working memory".

Lastly, it's not true that you can only see a small part. Yeah, you can see a small part WELL, it's called the fovea. But that's not the only region you can see. If it is, then you wouldn't tell the difference between seeing normally and seeing through a plastic straw or a pen tube. You have peripheral vision, and while you can't see text, you can definitely see pictures quite well, and most importantly, you can see differences and changes quite well (like a motion detector. you can tell why it might be important to monkeys to evolve that ability trying to detect bush tigers trying to attack them). That means if you have like an IRC window open, a new message will be quite noticeable.

Single monitors:
>it just works
>use virtual desktops for enhanced window organization
Dual monitors
>I hope your window manager does not fuck with this with shit like clic on a monitor and a new window appears on the other one
>you look like a hax00r

>I hope your window manager does not fuck with this with shit like clic on a monitor and a new window appears on the other one

Never had this problem. You just don't know how to use computers.

A second monitor upped my productivity by 50%

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I can be a h4ck3r on one monitor while watching anime on the other one :3

>takes several seconds to finish that motion
I can turn my head at least 140 degrees in under a second.

Are you somehow broken?

Really you just need one in landscape mode and if you need to read docs or anything else like logs or a terminal you could have a second one in portrait mode for quickly switching over

Any more than that is an ADHD nightmare; at least to me anyway

multi monitor looks pretty tacticool and command center but has 0 worth when it comes to productivity. in the best case you don't get a sore neck from constantly looking to the left

Really just depends what you're doing.

However, pretty much anyone can reasonably use two monitors at once, now if you're talking about 3 or 4, or more monitors, then there are still specific use-cases that would benefit from those extra panels, but obviously not everything will, and most people would have no use for a half dozen monitors.

Can you be productive with a single panel? Sure. You can even be similarly productive as someone who uses two panels assuming you're decent at navigating virtual desktops. But being able to have multiple things open at once without having to do anything but adjust where your eyes are focused on is something you simply can't get on a single panel, at least without going for a 43" 4k or similar monitor.

What we'll be getting in the future is similar to what you can get now with Netflix's VR:
>virtual frontroom
>sitting on virtual couch
>stearing at virtual cinema screen
In the future, you'll have monitors in all directions and, similar to a Rubix Cube, you can gesture the most relevant monitor into focus, or hotkey all monitors into small displays and pick from them.
The VR itself will be fucking amazing; they'll have the eye-fuckery worked out and you'll be able to run 10 instances of Crysis with plenty of browsers and porn tabs all at once.

>sore neck

Stop being fat.

>has 0 worth when it comes to productivity
You can't ACTUALLY believe that right?

All those financial advisers watching those silly stock market graphs are just playing around and being unproductive with their extra monitors?

How about command center at a nuclear power plant? Do you think those engineers just stare at pretty numbers, charts, etc all day for shits and giggles?

Stop being a retard

>I can turn my head at least 140 degrees in under a second.
now repeat this every 20 seconds for 8 hours a day and enjoy your sore neck

>financial advisers
lol, memeshits spewing hot air that get outcompeted by chimps randomly selecting stocks

>every 20 seconds
Why would I do that? Not to mention, I have two panels that don't require me to move my neck at ALL, I just have to shift my focus a tiny bit in each direction.

And easily out-earning your yearly salary in 2 months.

>Why would I do that?
so you don't make use of the 2nd screen and it's yet another Jow Forums command center. good to know

don't worry. you kikes will swing down from the lamp posts when the day of the rope comes

are you wheelchair bound

wew lad, you sure do love to make assumptions with no basis in reality just to try and "win" an argument.

I don't care if YOU can't be more productive with a 2nd monitor, but the fact is, many people are.

I end up having to transcribe documents side by side, and being able to keep multiple things open without needing to flip back and forth between things is honestly just better for MY workflow.

Again, fuck off with your bullshit arguments, anyone who has used multiple monitors know that anyone claiming neck pain or constantly moving your head around as a real problem, are full of shit.

or severely out of shape. probably can't walk a few blocks without gasping for air.

I have one 32 inch curved 1440p monitor but I still dream of having two of them, but even if I had the money I wouldn’t have the space :(

And you ignorant pricks will still be spewing that nonsense in another 100 years.

>play anime in the background without paying attention
Lemme guess, then you go on /a/ and complain about "plot holes"?

you have to be paralysed from the nose down to have this much of a problem with turning your head

>more money = they must be right
Let me guess, American?

This. I can understand a portrait monitor on the side but I see no benefit from multiple monitors

Same recycled shit over and over again.

Spoken like a true NEET.

That's not even the point moron, the whole point was multiple monitors can obviously be more productive and useful than a singular monitor depending on the task at hand.

If your task is to have a constant visual representation of real-time stock market graphs, then having enough resolution, and physical space, is obviously going to be far more important than using a singular panel.

Even if you COULD buy a singular 8k res 60" panel, why the fuck would you in THAT instance when you could get ~8 or 12 or 16 1080p 20" panels for the same price, or less.

Far more resolution, far more usable space.

Again, no one is claiming you can't be productive on a single monitor, but the idea that multiple monitors could NEVER be an advantage is just pants on head fucking stupid.

I never saw the point in multiple monitors over context switching like multiple desktops, or even better window management software. Multi monitor only seems more efficient than single, for those not wanting to put in effort learning how to control a single workspace efficiently.

The only exception I see, is in constant monitoring which only seems useful for personal use. like putting a movie or chat on a dedicated screen.

I want to move my head and eyes less, not more. I'd rather enter a key combo than glance over at something. If I'm only looking at something for that short of a time, and not interacting with it, then it'd be better put in a notification, or pop-up list anyway.

>I don't care if YOU can't be more productive with a 2nd monitor, but the fact is, many people are.
No, many people can't into tiling, run everything maximized and can't possibly conceive anything else. That's why a second monitor suddenly makes them more productive.
>I end up having to transcribe documents side by side, and being able to keep multiple things open without needing to flip back and forth between things is honestly just better for MY workflow
Nothing you can't do with a single monitor and good tiling. It seems you're one of those people I mentioned.

>/a/

I actually speak Japanese so I don't associate with EOP casuals.

>many people can't into tiling, run everything maximized
If you honestly think tiling is the same as another actual monitor, just kill yourself you poor fuck

What monitor does he use?

Tell me what you're using multiple monitors for, come on.

It's not the same, in fact it's often better since your tasks are closer together.

>tiling meme
You dumb nigger faggot, display two things at once at full resolution. I'll fucking wait.

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One 4K monitor is all you need.

I have a 4K 27" IPS monitor and I can do so much shit. Just look at my screenshot.

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>anyone who doesn't use a computer in the same manner as I do is demonstrably wrong

You realize that even people tie their shoes differently? There isn't ONE way to do things user. Get the fuck over yourself.

If doing the 4k single panel meme, really 32" is as small as i'd go.

27" is the bare minimum (and no scaling used of course because it's a shitty technology).

I also have a 25" 1440P IPS monitor and it is really nice aswell.

back in my day we had a 80x24 character screen. and we were more productive than millennials/zoomers

Shittier, more expensive and less comfy than 2x24" 16:10

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I replaced my 25" 1440p with a 27" 1440p because at my viewing distance it was just a bit too small to comfortably read text and sit back in my chair.

That being said, I also have a 43" 4k panel that I use at 100% scale.

>posts cybersecurity air force
>implying everyone does that shit everyday at work, let alone ever
What do *you* do with multiple monitors?
I'm not saying they are "demonstrably wrong", but they are indeed not using their peripherals as efficiently as possible. Just like there are objecrively faster ways to tie shoes: there are specific techniques triathlon athletes learn to optimize the transitions.

You're using a macbook and too poor to afford a monitor. Admit it.

Based.

>there are specific techniques triathlon athletes learn to optimize the transitions.
And even among them, there are people who have a preference that falls outside of the "optimal" and is just as effective, and in some cases more-so.

Just look at the genetic freak that is/was Michael Phelps. You can't exactly say his form was "optimal" compared to what the rest of us humans would be able to do.

>reverse mactoddler argument
Jesus.

>how an idiot justifies his existence

this, i'm an i3 user too, i didn't even change anything in terms of how it works with monitors, the default is very sensible, if i open a new workspace on a monitor, switching to it will bring me to that workspace on that monitor, so it's effectively like having two lists of workspaces and you can easily move windows between workspaces with hotkeys and thus between monitors as well so it's all just super simple

Just because someone is great at something doesn't mean he is doing everyrhing as efficiently as he could.
Take John Petrucci for example: he is a master guitarist, yet he makes a common technical mistake all the time, which is touching the guitar body with his pinky. He himself acknowledged it during an intervew, saying he could play even better if he overcame that flaw, but at this point it's so ingrained in his technique that it would be very hard, if not impossible, to unlearn this bad habit, so he doesn't bother.

>run everything maximized
found the Mac user
go away.
>nothing you can't do
yeah you can also open the document, take pictures of your screen with your phone, write down the text off the pictures using a piece of paper and pen, take that to the forest, learn to carve, carve it out on a stone, bring the stone home with you, close the document, open the other window and transcribe what's written on the stone. You can do this. But it doesn't mean you should.

This. Turning your head that much will lead to a herniated disk.

21:9 - 32 inches + one small for spotify > 3 monitors i had before

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>found the Mac user
>go away.
Based on what? Amusing.
>yeah you can also open the document, take pictures of your screen with your phone, write down the text off the pictures using a piece of paper and pen, take that to the forest, learn to carve, carve it out on a stone, bring the stone home with you, close the document, open the other window and transcribe what's written on the stone. You can do this. But it doesn't mean you should.
True. By opening documents in separate monitors instead of tiling them on a single monitor, you are introducing additional unnecessary distance.
You can do this, but it doesn't mean tou should.

>That means if you have like an IRC window open, a new message will be quite noticeable.
So you're saying that using an entire extra monitor as the equivalent of a popup notification in the status bar or a flashing LED is an efficient use of extra screen space? We've already solved the notification on event problem, and it's not by buying extra monitors.

ITT: multimonitorfags getting BTFO.

use cases:
>1
game on one
discord teamspeak and monitoring tools on the other
>2
stream on one
chat on other
>3
anime/movie on one
whatever the fuck I want on the other
>4
ide on one
screen terminal session on the other
>5
ide on one, doc on the other

I simply can't live without atleast two monitors.

Why do I have to NEED a second monitor? Isn't it enough that I want it? I want a second monitor therefore I have one.

Anyone who doesn't want a 2nd monitor, feel free not to buy one.

Oh fuck off
>additional distance
must suck to have neck paralysis
honestly i have a full on l33t haxxor setup with 3 computers and a total of 5 monitors and it's still faster and more convenient to have something maximized on each or a maximum of two windows than open all 10-20 programs and tile them around on one monitor
People who don't see the benefit of two monitors don't actually use computers beyond facebook.
You wish, pajeet.

Fair opinion. The people I have a problem with are those who can't possibly conceive using a single monitor.

>using multiple monitors

Lmao

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...and for yet another time, what do you do with all that stuff everyday?

Ugh, you have to zoom in to read text that small.

only good answer

I started life on a 100Mhz Pentium with Windows 3.1 with an HP CRT.

After ~15 years with a single monitor, I decided enough was enough. Been using multiple monitors since about 2003/4.

>And easily out-earning your yearly salary in 2 months.
You don't need any intelligence to make money if you already have billions of capital to invest. The capital itself makes money by virtue of existing.

Studies have shown that traders perform no better than randomly picking stocks, and sometimes even worse. Literally rolling dice performs better than "expert" traders.

If you gave the billions of dollars of capital owned by financial megacorps to an otherwise normal person with some financial intelligence, they could produce higher returns just by doing some safe investing.

is there a more obvious case of sour grapes than people being mad about multiple monitors

I use a single 4k monitor that's close enough so that I don't have to zoom in.
Very productive with just multiple windows side by side.

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At Google, you have the choice between one monitor vs two No sour grapes here

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I guess it does help that I have 20/10 vision

Found the zoomer.

i do lots of stuff, i obviously don't need 3 computers running all the time, but two of those are laptops that'd be just lying around anyway and are too shitty to sell, but they make a good Linux and Hackintosh combo, it's nice to be able to test my code and such on multiple OSes and some things are just easier to do on Linux than on Windows and vice versa

Why are you in Jow Forums in both Windows and ubuntu?
do you have a problem user?

Multi monitor is obsolete with 2560x1440 27" and above.

I think I ran a Commodore computer with those specs

>single monitors vs. multiple monitors
With a single monitors you can only see one anime show at a time. With multiple monitors you can see 2 anime shows side by side at the same time.