/hog/ - Haiku OS General

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Ohayou.
I see you're running an Atom. How well does it do on it? I have an old netbook laying there, so I thought it may be a good idea to install this on it

>Notices your atom processor
I have an old Dell netbook that I might try this on tomorrow. Any weirdness with the Intel graphics? Did you have to do anything special to get the system to behave?

As long as the system allocates enough VRAM on boot it should be fine.

It's excellent, much smoother than any other option I've tried.
Web browsers are pretty shit but Web+ is a lot faster than the other options.

Can I get a quick rundown?

It's everything everyone says is good about OS X, but unlike OS X, it's actually good.
>clean
>consistent
>light and fast
>lots of useful APIs
>mostly POSIX
>designed for use on desktop
Interesting features include a database-like filesystem, a built-in file conversion API and the fact that all the libraries contain a significant amount of threading.
Relevant video: youtube.com/watch?v=lWxx6uQmgbo

depends on the graphics chip.
My laptop has an 855gm which means i have to boot using failsafe graphics(VESA).

in case you have that issue press space before the bootloader shows up

where's the fucking beta your scam os

Does the browser finally work?

If you've got networking support, Web+ and WebPositive are some of the better options.

user, it sounds like you have a lot of pent up anger - probably from Linux distros, Mac hardware, and Windows

how about you try haiku and maybe contribute some code? we're okay with a lot of code and will help you get better at programming

>WebPositive
That's the default browser in haiku isn't it? Last time I heard about it, that it's pretty buggy. Has it gotten better?

Steadily improving, but still no adblock.
It's fucking fast on shitboxes though.

>obscurity by obscurity

You probably haven't heard of that technique, it's rather obscure.

It is a tough competition between Haiku, 9Front and Redox-OS.

9front seems neat but they look like they'd jump in some cuck CoC as soon as they receive some >female attention

They seem like they would hang out in a message board and explode if someone suggested they needed a COC.

Not sure about Redox, but 9front doesnt yet have a web browser or media player, so as far as desktop (not strictly for-work use) I'd say haiku is above them

Questions
1.First how can you install apps from terminal
Is it like apt ???
2. What type of packages that haiku deal with ?
(Can you install debian packages ???)
3. Does programs like mpv runs smoothly on it ????
4. IS WINE SUPPORTED ON 64 VERSION ??????
5. Can you install hack fag tools like kali ???
6. Drivers support on RADEON CARDS ???????
7. BOOT TIME ????
8. Laptop laptop optimizations OR TLP?
9. Does faggot internal Wi-Fi cards run on it without problems ???
10. What types of games you can install on it ?????
11. Does have vaapi ??????

1. pkgman install
2. You cant install .deb packages but its not hard to port unix applications to Haiku
3. mpv runs but isn't as optomized as the default media player on there
4. fuck wine
5. i think there is a packet injector in the repo's
6. idk
7. boot time depends on your system obviously, but for me its pretty quick
8. idk
9. idk, dont have wifi of my computer
10. idk, i saw some emulators and such in the repos
11. idk

>Fuck wine
Back to Windows XD

i know this is bait but if all you do is play video games then you should stick to the only OS that completely supports it

List of things that really bug me about haiku:
>no middle button scrolling with trackpoints
>no way to configure multiple displays
>lots of broken packages in haikuports
>emacs package was dropped (at least on x86)
>can't configure it to connect to a wi-fi network by default
>no terminal with a working meta key

You should try it again soon, the broken packages have been (mostly) fixed. And you can configure all your keybindings nativly without having to download any package to let you do it. But so far I don't think there is any support for multiple displays, so configuring them would be entirely up to you.

With wpa_supplicant you can default your internet to your wifi.

Oh, I forgot to mention it's impossible to have two physical keys bound to the same modifier, not matter whether I edit a keyboard layout by hand or use the graphical tool.
The problem with the meta key is also pretty significant, but it's just a consequence of going the macOS way with modifiers.

I like Haiku quite a bit. It's very easy to use and has an incredibly comfy theme. As others ITT have pointed out it's missing a lot of stuff but that's just what you get from a hobbyist OS.

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Im a simple man. I discarded w10 because its updates always fucked my lap. I installed manjaro, but gnome runs slow and kde is pretty meh, and te whole CoC thing tells me i need to be cautious.

Is haiku the distro that fulfills my graphic design, security, privacy and gui needs?

>is haiku the distro
no, its not a distro
>that fufills my graphic design, security, privacy and gui needs?
yes. although I dont know how secure it is at the moment, but thats likely to improve as more move to it and develop for/with it.

>more than 1 question mark in a row
Underage b&

>Is haiku the distro that fulfills my graphic design, security, privacy and gui needs?
Haiku isn't a Linux distribution. It's an entirely new OS. It'll do everything you need a basic desktop to do, though there isn't very much software for the platform. Try it out and see if you can make it work for you.

Is this a GNU system?

no, although it is more free than default linux kernel. There are a lot less proprietary blobs in the kernel than non-free linux. and it does use the gnu-core utils

No. It uses some GNU utilities like Bash and GCC though.

>MOM CANCEL MY MEETINGS WINDOWS UPDATE FUCKED UP MY CSRSS.EXE AGAIN

>Bash and GCC
I guess it is self-hosted then?

What do you mean? Are you asking if Haiku and compile itself? You can compile Haiku on Haiku, yes.

Emacs isnt dropped just untested on x86.
Test it, if builds fine, report it as tested and we enable it for x86.
If it fails to build, fix it and send a PR.

this

>implying Haiku devs won't adopt a CoC the minute they get significant backlash to do so

They are based in NY, you know that, right?

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If I can't run Wine, then I can't run Clip Studio, and I can't draw my Nippon fantasy porn that makes me happy

An operating system that doesn't make me happy using it is a tool not useful

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Use Krita and be happy.

In all seriousness, if you have a beefy GPU, Haiku probably won't make you happy yet.

Just port it or rewrite it as native Haiku program.
Do you think the os devs are responsible to provide you everything what you need, even3rd party programs and emulators too? Dont you ask a bit much?
If you dont think so, then please, port wine end everybody will win! Deal?

Hey. I made this pastebin some time ago. It has some errors (I mistook userland crashes with KDLs..) but hope you find some use to it.

Let me reboot to haiku.

Who cares, if this gets famous some person will join and use tricks to add some systemd to this.

Here we go

pastebin.com/5iP59A28

Nice desktop you have got there, let me share mine

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Can I put it on a USB though?

Why aren't you running the pre-Beta user?

It's working but has some problems with some websites.

1. pkgman
2. .hpkg. Not sure about .deb packages
3. mpv runs on it well on it. I run 1080p videos smoothelly in my core 2 duo with no graphics card. I have been having problems tho. For some reason there's a visible delay in pixel row alignment and I dont like that.

>no way to configure multiple displays
Someone actually got that working. Not sure what kind of magic they applied.

They're incredibly hard to convince in the forums. I doub they would addopt am official CoC just because someone asks for it.

Yeah it's on the site's installation guide.

I don’t see any use for this OS

This is a really nice OS but in the days I have been using it baremetal I have run into many problems. Although none of them are really serious, they're still bothersome. Of course this is still beta software, so I hope everyone gives it a try and if possible lend a hand in the debugging as well. I have tried to debug and fix it myself and failed miserably in part because I'm unexperienced with C++ and in part because I don't know how to use the integrated Debugger. If someone can give me a hand i would happily keep trying.

Just to write the different problems I said before, here they are:
Sometimes Tracker crashes for no good reason. Maybe opening a menu for example. This makes every opened folder to close instantly. Also every new configuration/disposition you had in your desktop gets reversed.

MediaPlayer doesn't support SASS subs. Really? On this age?

None of the browsers are reliable. They all have their problems. All of them crash after some time of use. None of them work correctly on all sites, there's always a site that makes it crash.

I have run into 4 KDLs in 2 days, altho 3 of them were not serious (I could continue using Haiku after typing "continue"), one of them made me reboot. Dunno how to debug that.

Apps often crash and make the window unresponsibe. There's no way to easily close or force the app to quit. The workaround is going to the processes and kill it, but that's not elegant. Apps shouldn't crash out of nowhere, and I saw this only happen on Haiku.

>It's another "I'm switching to inferior software because the developers wearn't as homophobic as me" thread

back to Jow ForumsFreeBSD

>telegram
Very based OS.

>because the developers wearn't as homophobic as me

Nigger they're not even developers, all Coralina Ada has made is shitty toy Javascript bullshit that's a dime a dozen, and somehow has staged a fucking coup.

>no steam
aaaaaaaannnnd dropped.

>muh bideo bames

I would really appreciate a guide to debugging native apps and haiku components.

There needs to be a modern guide to it. How do they even develop on Haiku? It seems really hard if they only use Pe (a pretty crude editor).

Hey guys, I have an old laptop that Haiku boots fine on. The only issue is that the WLAN card broke some years back and I haven't bought a new one. I've been plugging my phone into it and doing USB tethering which works fine for what it is. I could use Ethernet to get online under Haiku but that's inconvenient for me and my desk is too far from the router. How do I get Haiku to recognize my phone as a wireless dongle? Works automatically on Linux, BSD, and Windows. So why won't it work on Haiku?

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Better ask on the forums. They will be able to help there.

youtube.com/watch?v=zpgLFEHrWSA

i installed it (twice) but it clearly didn't copy everything because it finished in a fraction of a second, and when i try to boot from the hard disk i just get corruption

First time I heard something like that. Are you sure it's not a problem with your USB or HDD?

I like the nightlies.
re: Multiple displays, you'll probably need another graphics card for now. VESA doesn't really have provisions for multiple displays.

is wonderbrush in the tier of photoshop?

i love everything BeOS related to sound and would love to try this out.

there's no way to use multiple displays period

AMD devices can clone them

but you can't extend the desktop

Oh, RIP. Can't say I've tried it.

it's virtualbox

Download a fresh copy of the latest nightly ISO and make a new VM using the Windows 7 presets. That should do the trick.

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i will try

i booted the livecd just fine and loved the OS's consistency. it reminds me of plan 9 in that everything's done right and from the ground up, but unlike this is obviously more of a product than a research project.

The more I use it, the more it reminds me of MacOS 9, in that everything you do in the OS is done with the GUI. Except it has none of the problems of OS 9, and it actually has a shell and package manager. The UI really is damn near flawless. System stability and drivers are what need the most work.

I'm booting it on real hardware and it seems to be working alright, though I don't do a whole lot with it. WebPositive, the native browser, has memory leak issues I think. Otter Browser works fine though. I use that, Pe for text editing, and I use a few other basic programs.

If it had abp/ubo style ad blocking I would be fine using it as a daily driver.

Krita is in the repos and it should be possible to port OpenToonz if the GPU drivers ever mature. At that point adding libass2 support to the media framework would make it a god tier weeb OS.

duh, why would you want to use a gay OS?

There's Paladin, an IDE, in the repos. Also most Haiku applications will literally pop open a GUI debugger on crash.

>I have run into 4 KDLs in 2 days, altho 3 of them were not serious (I could continue using Haiku after typing "continue"), one of them made me reboot. Dunno how to debug that.
It should give you a complete call trace. Go into the source and view the offending line that made it panic.

can't even get nightly to boot in vbox now

I understand your complains but this project barely gets to its donation goals every year.
And to be honest it needs more support with code too.

I want to fix bugs in Haiku for patreon bux!

I'm pretty sure you can get paid to work on it, through the Haiku organisation. Probably have to be a recognized contributor first though.

Can I run it off USB or its a bad idea?

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Brainlet who can't get the LiveCD to work reporting in.

You forgot Harvey and minix

Did you use the anyboot iso or the other iso? Try both but the anyboot should work. If still neither of those work, hold shift (or rapidly press it idk which one works best) and change the boot settings so that it uses the backup (vesa) driver. Also safe mode shouldn't hurt.

Thats fine, I ran it off USB for a month before I decided to dedicate a 500gb hdd to it.

If i remember correctly internet through usb is not implemented.
Maybe when they start using the freebsd 11 drivers it will start working though.

Daily reminder - download the nighties guys.

You can run it from a USB stick or a CD if you're feeling old school.

but nightlies are busted!

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i'm writing Nani OS

Yes, it's been for a few years.