This is such a shit and overrated framework. The only reason it's popular is because of lazy assholes who think Python is great for everything.
The GCBV are absolute garbage with variable and function declarations from superclasses impossible to find unless you go to ccbv.co.uk.
You are stuck with using an ORM, which can be counter intuitive for a lot of cases. If you already know SQL you still have to learn their shitty ORM syntax which just slows down performance compared to raq SQL.
Python is an inherently bad language for everything that is not a script due to being a dynamic language. For bigger projects it can be an absolute nightmare to detect errors.
Django is slow as fuck, and it's just awful for real time apps like streaming apps or chat apps.
I have no idea how this piece of garbage got so popular.
>If you already know SQL you still have to learn their shitty ORM syntax which just slows down performance compared to raq SQL You don't need to use their ORM
>For bigger projects it can be an absolute nightmare to detect errors. Not from my personal experience
>I have no idea how this piece of garbage got so popular. Because it werks and is good. In webdev, you only need to make sure you can handle all requests, and send everything back quickly. A basic django app will do that
Everything is customizable, I hate its forms so I don't use them
Adam Anderson
The only reason people use it is because node is even worse.
Brandon Robinson
python is great for everything! instead of bitching, go and learn to code!
Logan Clark
This
>nodejs Massive mess
>PHP The language itself and how it builds html is unmaintainable which is why large companies moves off it
>Java/C# Can be very good but very verbose. 90% of the time, Python's performance suffices because it will still take mere milliseconds to serve the request. The true bottleneck is at the network layer
Eli Jenkins
You still have to use an ORM.
Lucas James
Wrong. Some projects in companies I've worked for, have SQLAlchemy substituted, and sprinklings or raw SQL, or simply have no db
Logan Adams
Python is a meme. JS/node is based & redpilled
James Bell
The verbosity of Java and C# is actually good for big projects. There is a reason why Python is not used for big enterprise projects. You need static typing.
Ethan Carter
Not really in webdev. Because of the modularity of a webdev project, it can be huge and static typing will still not matter, because you don't need to declare the sizes of your variables, when the performance bottleneck is not really translating a request to a response.
If you're talking about needing static typing in the maintainbility sense, then you haven't used python in a large project, so you don't know what you're talking about
Ayden Evans
Why use Django if you use raw SQL? Do you know how much tweaking you have to do to make it work? Django is built around its ORM.
Ayden Diaz
>Django is built around its ORM. Not really. There are loads of moving parts.
You can use forms without model forms, eg the angular-based 3rd party forms
You can use views without objects easily
You can do REST-based apis without objects due to the nature of serializers being able to do anything
You can manage objects declared like you'd do in SQLAlchemy and perform objerations that way instead of the ORM way
Personally, I use Django for the security, rather than the need for ORM
David Wilson
>objerations operations*
You don't really need to do any tweaking
Parker Mitchell
>JS Fuck outta here, nigger
Hunter Harris
JS is no worse than Python
Landon Jones
Is there any point in learning django for my small hobby projects instead of just using Flask?
Luke Hall
Not sure how you did it, but every line you wrote is wrong, congrats.
Colton Jackson
personally I find that frameworks like rails and django put you in a bad spot. Either they are serious overkill and you should use a smaller library or you need to go above and beyond and build something completely custom. Django is utter fucking trash if you need a highly scalable app with a lot of threads. Don't fucking write a websocket server in python. Just don't. I switched to writing Go because it has basically every single HTTP library you could possibly need and they are written by companies like Google and Cloudflare. inb4 muh generics.
Kayden Allen
Fanboy detected. How's that shitty slow bloated framework working out for you?
Gavin Jones
Working out pretty good. But nm there is one line where OP is right, class based views suck ass so I don't use them.
