>Gnome 3.XX
Extensions break every update
Takes a shit when you plug in another monitor (projector)
Removing features every day
>Plasma 5.XX
Buggy everywhere
Wayland being pushed but extremely incomplete
Whole system lags every time you launch an application
What are you running for stability, Jow Forums? Gnome/Plasma on a stable distro? Something else?
>Whole system lags every time you launch an application
is like you enjoy going online and lying to anonymous people on the internet
>Extensions
Absolutely harmful
im running KDE on CloverOS
Updated 3.28 to 3.30. Every fucking extension stopped working, causing crashes too. Gnome without extensions is useless (you need at least 8 of them). So I downgraded to 3.28. Why to upgrade they just remove features. Maybe Ill switch to xfce4.
KDE is ugly and looks retarded.
Tiling wm are a meme for autist.
You have basically three distros with commercial backing. RH, Suse, Ubuntu. These are the ones which are used in production most of the time.
What DE are all these using as default?
>Wayland
Wow, I remember thinking that shit would replace X like 6 years ago. How's it going now? Still unusable?
Void + XFCE
Wayland is a meme. Plasma settings has misplaced tooltips, every application has misplaced submenus if near screen edge. I tried it yesterday on 5.14. You are better off with X.
Gnome has mostly everything working in Wayland but there are some creature comforts missing. Lots of drag+drop issues, no support for global hotkeys like PTT for Mumble or Discord, lots of issues with multihead, and of course no NVIDIA support
Yep, unfortunately the plasma devs say that new features are going to be wayland exclusive and not backported to X
How could they fuck up so bad? When will it finally work? 20 years from now?
Xfce with i3
KDE1 or trinity outdated edition. No security, great icons.
idk, never had any problems with xfce4
LXQt is fine stability and speed-wise but it gets really boring after a while and it doesn't even have most of the Windows desktop features it is supposed to copy. Plus most of the bundled LXQt themes look like complete garbage (one of them is Windows 95). LXTerminal is also retarded and if LXSession breaks you can't do anything but restart the computer because even Ctrl+Alt+T won't work (I suspect it is something to with LXDE executing shell scripts for commands instead of having them compiled in the environment). All in all,
Speed: 10/10
Stability: 10/10
Features: 2/10
Looks: 4/10
I like cinnamon, it got a lot better in version 3.6
You're not gonna get more stable than Gentoo and FVWM.
BSD and WindowMaker
don't h8 m8
this, a bit painful to configure but I never had any problem with it.
Xfce is the most stable DE from my experience. So I run Xubuntu. Recently switched to Mint Xfce on one of my laptops just to see how it behaves. I might move from Xubuntu to Mint in future.
any linux with good out-of-the-box Openbox implementation
KDE is werking fine for me on Gentoo
Xubuntu
I don't have time to fuck around with anything else and it just werks.
>What DE are all these using as default
Gnome with so much custom shit that it works more like KDE does than stock gnome
ArchLabs
anything that isn't on wayland
Maybe Openbox on Debian stable. But it doesn't really come with it anymore, unless you go for Antix.
If you disable desktop composition and akonadi KDE is somewhat okay.
>Buggy everywhere
That's Linux in general
My hunch is Wayland needs Vulkan to work properly.
Like the current Windows and MacOS ain't.
you mean BunsenLabs
see ^^^
>not using AUR
i use arch btw
>BunsenLabs
That's an interesting distro. Thx.
>>Plasma 5.XX
>Buggy everywhere
>Wayland being pushed but extremely incomplete
>Whole system lags every time you launch an application
wot, it doesnt push wayland and is rockysteady, and is perhaps the only gui out there that seems 21st century without being a touch first whitespace-only UX horror.
>GNOME 3
Tell me, I'm an Ubuntu 18.04 fag and I've often noticed that if one programme badly crashes, then so do all of the others. Is this a GNOME problem, an Ubuntu problem, or a Linux problem?
>Ubuntu
>Used in production
>Suse
>Not one of the most KDE friendly distros
>RH
>Used outside of ssh
ahahahahha i mean i use the fucking foot but you're just retarded
I have no idea why this isn't common knowledge by now
What is so special about wayland? Why are people trying to make it happen instead of just improving on x? Ive looked around but can't seem to find much info on it. X has always worked just fine for me, albeit with some small issues here and there. KDE user btw.
the reason Wayland isn't just a new version of X is because the core design is fundamentally different and isn't compatible. what we're experiencing now is the awkward transition from "morally outdated but functional" to something that "looks great on paper but hasn't matured enough to replace X completely".
i use GNOME to spite fgts like you :^)
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>Gnome without extensions is useless (you need at least 8 of them).
excuse me?
>So I downgraded to 3.28.
haha what a fkn retard
>Lots of drag+drop issues
wat
for daily use? gnome
cons? may have overhead and/or inferior video playback
no cons? weston, but anal to use and may crash some times because reasons [xwayland]
sway? laggy, last i checked
enlightenment? unknown
also novidia =/= wayland
>Audacious
can't drop audio files into it.
can't open multiple audio files through right click context menu UNLESS i go through "Open With Other Application".
all of this works fine on X though.
>Takes a shit when you plug in another monitor (projector)
i had no issues with my hdmi
btw i use arch :^)
Xubuntu masterrace
I like sway.
>What is so special about wayland?
Nothing, it's another pathetic failure.
Ubuntu MATE is pretty comfy, and fwiw Ubuntu vanilla makes Gnome3 half decent. Ubuntu LTS is my favourite distro, been running Linux since Debian in 97.
Look at that idiot.
i suppose you mean from nautilus
afaik audacious is gtk2 or qt5, i don't have it atm but i tried d&d to leafpad and gimp and it werks, also FF works [ff also uses xwayland] so idk
> it works fine
>failure
Jow Forums in a nutshell
It doesn't work fine. I'm running m'lady28 and had plenty of issues with wayland, so many that I just went back to X which works perfectly. Fuck wayland and fuck REDHATE for it, along with syndromed.
Xfce
What kind of stupid question is this?
GNOME and KDE are memes filled with gimmicks and crash every 5 minutes.
Xfce is solid as a rock. All you have to do is add a theme like arc-theme, add whisker menu to the panel. That's it.
Debian stable+i3wm
this can be seen in weston for some xwayland applications, you're obviously using x not wayland
just use manjaro jeez
the windows Qt theme is the best >:|
i don't see the big hype idiots create
>OMG we gona ship it next time OMG!!!!1111!
as if lxde is inferior to it
based
cringe and bluepilled
Manjoure?
yes from nautilus. i think Audacious is GTK3 but not sure how that means anything to me. so far I haven't found a music player that I'm completely happy with. DeaDBeeF had a perfect foobar-like UI but crashed constantly. Clementine also had problems I can't remember now.
>uses bleeding edge distro whose main purpose is to beta test new things
>expects something as ambitious as Wayland to work perfectly
just use CentOS and shut the fuck up
redmine.audacious-media-player.org
if you're using gnome you might as well use gnome music
it's comfy
or build audacious yourself
Arch + KDE
that doesn't make sense tho, if it's gtk3 then you shouldn't have that dnd issue
if it's qt5 try, audacious -platform wayland
forgive my retardation, I seem to be using X, not Wayland and still have the DnD not working at all issue, and the issue of opening multiple files at once only opening one.
i'll give GNOME music a try since i feel like i've tried almost everything out there. I just want my player to be a simple queue like Audacious or foobar2000 where i can just drop files into it or open them from file manager, instead of a visual library.
Doesn't work for shit on centos, fucking cuck.
Mate DE.
>i'll give GNOME music a try
ok, this shit is beyond fucked. thanks anyway.
Debian stable+cinnamon.
Just werks 4 me
I use Ubuntu Gnome on my shitty laptop and it works fast and flawlessly now because I'm actually familiar with how my operating system functions and can handle an error or two.
tl;dr - git gud
>xfce
I don't know what that is or does, sorry
im running ubuntu 18.04
android studio + intellij + vbox + daily use
no issues ever
literally the >>>>>>>ONLY
XFCE + Manjaro is a perfect combo for me
Duck off. I know how to start Wayland session from SDDM. It also exports platform variable to qt5 applications.
Without xdg-shell being stable it sucks donkey balls, trust me. I really wanted to dogfood it. Every release there is something not working correctly.
>It also exports platform variable to qt5 applications.
obv it doesn't
X can be effortlessly keylogged and it has a shit ton of outdated compatibility code
You are retarded. If it wasn't then virtualbox would expect x and not segfault.
lxde is pretty good. It's fast, stable, small on resources, and has all the settings you need to manage multiple monitors, sound devices, programs etc.
It's very similar to xfce but even more lightweight.
>missing the point completely
KDE 4-something (maybe 4.2.2) on openSUSE
Ratpoison is all I need.
xfce the XTREMELY FUCKING COOL ENVIRONMENT is your solution 2 ur linnus desktop wnevinoment problemss
>even more lightweight
by 20-30MB, get a modern laptop for fuck's sake
Plasma 5 is the best fucking desktop and you should be ashamed of not using it
Sounds expensive. Why not switch DE for free and get more resources over for other tasks.
What are your eight?
I only got Dash to Panel, GSConnect and
Media Player Indicator
Unity is he only sane DE right now.
>Extensions break every update
Fucking this.
>take away all features
>lol, just use extensions
>have to install extensions outside of your fucking package manager
>having to click shit in the browser to install (what is this, windows 98?)
>lol, we broked it with update, you go find another extension
Seriously, fuck that.
But sadly, KDE refuses to work with my system, so I just gave up and use some shitty ass default gnome with 0 functionality, but just that little bit more than some barebones shit…
>pls, send help
cinnamon is comfy as fuck, and pretty stable too
not exacly lightweight though, if that's an issue for you
>What are you running for stability
windows
Fun fact: It uses packages from 2004, in the year 2018.
and here I was about to switch to ubuntu from windows
thanks for the bulletdodging
This
Install Windows
I agree that plasma is buggy as shit but don't pretend its not fast