Why is Debian so shit?
Why is Debian so shit?
Liam Hall
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Dominic Perez
it's not. that's why ubuntu uses it
Henry Nelson
infiltration by sjws, now spend all day debating about dumb stuff instead of working
Adrian Carter
Jonathan Sanchez
ubuntu made it usable
for an "universal operating system", linus couldn't even install it
did I mention it comes with systemd, doesn't have sudo by default, and has no graphics drivers?
Grayson Butler
>did I mention it comes with systemd, doesn't have sudo by default, and has no graphics drivers?
You can use Debian without systemd.
Just don't install systemd.
Caleb Davis
>doesn't have sudo
but it does?
Julian Clark
same shitthread from yesterday.
ubuntards are competing with itards and inteltards on who's gonna shill more against the competition.
Joshua Bennett
it doesn't come with the sudo package
Liam Allen
use devuan instead
Samuel Roberts
Its not. That's why the industry loves it
Benjamin Gonzalez
it does though
sudo is only not active if you set a root password during setup
Colton Williams
Because you are hobbyist.
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Luis Rivera
The NSA suicided its creator to shove systemd in it.
Charles Miller
This, not to mention it often autistically complains about "missing firmware" even with the nonfree iso.
So much for the "universal operating system".
Luis Rogers
How do you set up a Debian install without systemd? What's the process like?
Brandon Stewart
install gentoo
Joseph Thomas
it is almost perfect for server
wish they had much longer support cycles though
Juan Morales
this
there is no better server os
Ian Nguyen
It used to be my go to distro at one time, but the merging of sysv init and systemd has made it bit of a mess. I understand that they had to transition users to systemd, but it's not for me. No doubt it will be back to it's awsome self once it's moved full to systemd, until then Slackware
Isaiah Peterson
They only mantain compatibility with free software, that's the only reason Ubuntu is "better", they make sure libraries satisfy the third party software dependencies. That's probably the main reason Ubuntu is so popular and not just because "hurr is easy to use so is not good". It doesn't constrain you to use only free software and actually gives you usability. Unlike ""Debian"", the only branch worth getting is Stable since Testing is broken and Sid is super broken, you could get shit working with flatpaks I guess, I don't know if you can find everything. But then I would prefer CentOS or RHEL for a stable system that just werks™. And the only contender for bleeding edge would be Fedora, which Linus has shilled since 2008 or so.
t. corporate software shill
Luis Long
>doesn't have sudo by default, and has no graphics drivers?
apt install sudo
wow that was hard
Brayden Walker
only times it's shit is when you run a WM and want to install something from a DE, because debian packs tons of shit in those packages