What are your thoughts on hackerspaces?

they're for posers
"basement coder" is a term for a reason

how the fuck do you not have a manging group
somebody owns the space

it depends
from experience, bigger ones definitely attract some "I want to feel special by being a part of something obscure" hipsters, but smaller ones can have some really interesting people there

more like: somebody is there to interface with the world outside like ISPs, energy companies and law enforcement
and that is about it
hackerspace is not run by a group of people to provide a place to do stuff, hackerspace are people who do stuff together and share
more like a high school class from students' view, nobody really owns it, it is just a group of people that interact

who tells people to clean their shit up if they don't
who settles disputes
who throws disruptive people out
what kind of communist utopia do you live in

Please tell me you know this first hand going to one and deciding for yourself the people there weren't "legit"

Why couldn't most everything be by majority?

These aren't mass scale populations. If you have a small group, say 10 people, and 2 people never clean their shit up, then the group tells them to clean their shit up or the other 8 will outvote their 2 to kick them out. The problems resolve themselves, be "part" of the group and its associated responsibilities/rules or leave and start your own space.

sounds like you list reasons to have a teacher in kindergarten
I am just lucky to be a part of a hackerspace with no retards, there is no need for managers, if everyone is able to manage him/herself
if the group is open, friendly and tends to the place, newcomers are inclined to do the same

>sounds like you list reasons to have a teacher in kindergarten
clearly you haven't met many adults then

you neither

Don't act all high and mighty just because your friends are cool, I've never met a group of more than 10 anyones that doesn't have a somewhat disruptive person in it

I haven't been to anything called a "hackerspace" but all clubs for solitary pursuits are usually just for peacocking

seeing the state of some hackerspaces I am constantly in a trolling mood being happy ours work
just keep looking, such groups do exist

no thanks i'm not a """hacker"""

>clubs for solitary pursuits

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ones that dont require other people

What is the relationship to peacocking then? Don't you need others to give you the attention?

I'm just not getting the connection.

the point is if it's not a team hobby or team sport or whatever it's just about showing off what you've done which is pretty shallow
it's not that hard a concept to grasp

Yeah what you've done with the input/knowledge/help/resources of other people. Team sports have plenty of peacocking

if it's a team sport you play together
if it's a programmers club or something you go and say "hey look what i made cool huh" and thats it