/hog/-Haiku OS General

>what is Haiku?
haiku-os.org/about/
>where do I download Haiku?(use nightlies)
haiku-os.org/get-haiku/
>how do I use Haiku?
haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/contents.html
>okay so I installed it but I'm having some problems
haiku-os.org/about/faq/
>that didn't answer any of my questions
discuss.haiku-os.org/

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Other urls found in this thread:

haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2018-08-19_r1beta1_release_plans_-_at_last/
discuss.haiku-os.org/t/r1-beta1-release-candidate-1-images/7469
wine.org/
wiki.winehq.org/Haiku
tunetrackersystems.com/
gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
discuss.haiku-os.org/t/making-haiku-free-software/3084/12
haiku-os.org/news/2018_09_28_haiku_r1_beta1/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Reminder that the beta was scheduled to release ten days ago.
haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2018-08-19_r1beta1_release_plans_-_at_last/

Doesn't need to be a general fucking retard

and it's (effectively) released
discuss.haiku-os.org/t/r1-beta1-release-candidate-1-images/7469

it's a lot of fun (if a little janky)

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YES WE KNOW THESE THINGS ARE MISSING, SUBMIT PATCHES OR STFU
>working sound drivers for some hardware
>isochronous USB for USB DACs
>GPU 3D accel
>proper hidpi
>adblock in web+
>multimonitor / graphics tablet support
>libass support in MediaPlayer

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actually yes it does, fuck you asshole. unix/dos/nt must be thrown in the fucking garbage where it belongs

dude its called /hog/ cmon be cool

Nice!

Are there any irc clients for haiku?

how do i manually set the resolution for my default graphics driver? I installed haiku on an intel celeron and I /think/ it has a working default driver since the splash screen appears, but then the resolution gets set to some wonky shit and my monitor blacks out and starts whining about frequency ranges. I'm booting in vesa fine, but vesa displays images horribly on this computer plus it doesn't appear to support anything above 1024/768 resolution.

Yes
Yeah sadly your problem is common among people using intel graphics on haiku.

Hello

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Is WiFi support still non-existent on Haiku ?

Does this follow the "Unix" Weenies philosophy? Do the devs dogfood it?

There's one in the default install IIRC dunno name.

They use BSD drivers and they kind of work. Sometimes.

Vision, irssi, bitchx, etc..

Is there a tiling WM?

There is no wm except the default which is tiling-tabbing-hybrid

That's a fairly new processor, how's the performance? Is their screen tearing?

I think it is pretty good.

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>general
>one guy posting screenshots

We are at least 3.

Where the fuck is wine so I can fucking play cadet pinball

Here you go mate: wine.org/

There's a surprisingly complete port of Emacs 26.

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I did not notice any screen tearing.
As for performance because it cannot detect m.2 drives i just installed it on a crappy usb2.0 usb drive. So it was definitely bottlenecked. Still felt pretty instant.

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No and yes. There's a terminal and unix shell tools, but the whole OS is GUI-first and tries to be an integrated whole rather than just a collection of small tools.

Try some boot options. Hold space while booting.

USB image crashes halfway through boot on metal claiming it can find no boot medium
This is after loading its nice loading screen but before reaching a desktop. Verified image after putting it on USB disk and the same image boots fine in a vm
What do

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me 4

Are you using a USB3 port? Try USB2.

Yes it's 3, unfortunately I'm not poor so all my ports are 3

Play with the boot options

I did but none seemed to be help
Maybe I'll bite the bullet and buy a sata cable and install it to a disk from a vm
Currently only have m.2 disks, even though one's a sata m.2 I'm still not sure if it will work?

Will it run on my beastly $50 AMD monster CPU?
(Intel BTFO btw)

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It'd be cool if they could get firefox running on it

What's stopping gtk from working?

whats the use case for this

IIRC from the forums, even if they port firefox, it will still be buggy. Because ports are like that. They need to be maintained.

I thought I told you to fuck off, hamplanet

It takes a bit of work to get it to work properly under haiku, but you can get it done.
wiki.winehq.org/Haiku

What's the radeon support like?

Can I see the filechooser? Just curious.

Firefox hasn't had a backend port to BeOS since 2.0. It's not worth the effort unless Mozilla picks up the port themselves.

The best drivers for Haiku.

Firefox is kind of buggy on everything so I don't think I'd mind *unironically uses xD* xD

Non existent

Hello

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How do I take screenshots and manage battery usage?

Print Screen button and there should be a panel widget for battery usage out of the box.

Dont link that fucking old irrelevant shitty list you dork, it doesnt even mention 64 bit where no memory-map constrain eyist you tool.

> What's stopping gtk from working?
Only you.

>when people only use your OS for desktop threads

It is a separate executable, there is no thumbnail support, if you meant that, but thats just matter of implementation. You can even provide own file-picker to override the system provided one.

How are you getting 3200x2400 output? Is that some vbox option? And why does the info script still claim 1600x1200?

Upscaled virtual machine output?

Making decorators is so hard. I can't make the borders thinner.

Corrupted my system by accident too kek. Now I can't open a window without crash. Will have to boot to a live USB to fix that.

There's literally a commercial product based around Haiku.

tunetrackersystems.com/

>no vpn
>sound not working
No, thanks.

Why is thumbnail support so hard in filechoosers though? Considering gnome still doesn't have it.

We're pickin up speed

LINUX DYING ABANDON SHIT

HAIKU IS THE SAVIOR

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gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

"Haiku includes some software that you're not allowed to modify. It also includes nonfree firmware blobs."

Because Tracker is from BeOS, and at that time thumbnails were not so important. Why dont you implement it wit the Be philosophy, with the help if the addons, translators, extra attributes?
Show how something could be. Show the respect for the tradition to not respecting rules!

IIRC that's only true of the i586 port that ships some old BeOS binaries. All the native Haiku stuff is FOSS, and the firmware blobs are just for on-device chips rather than the CPU.

Haiku provides no binaries from BeOS.
The nonfree part includes but not limited to:
- GPL and other non-MIT/BSD licensed software
- firmwares under various licenses for wlan and other devices
- The BeBook and other Be documents

You can hovewer build Haiku without them.

>The nonfree part includes but not limited to:
>- GPL and other non-MIT/BSD licensed software
Oh fuck off.

Get more info here: discuss.haiku-os.org/t/making-haiku-free-software/3084/12
And check the sources.

Why? Haiku is MIT, so GPL is restrictive, thus nonfree.
It just a viewpoint difference what free is and what not.

No. License autism about the GPL is what destroyed FreeBSD and OpenBSD as serious platforms, and what crippled Apple's codebase. Codebases that can accept GPL components (Linux, DragonFly BSD, Haiku) come out stronger.

Haiku allows GPL code but not in base system, and it provides a way to disable them = everything is just fine.

>Haiku 5 - 7 - 5
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Linux compromised
We search for alternatives
Haiku is not one
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Dead, bump

haiku-os.org/news/2018_09_28_haiku_r1_beta1/
IT'S HAPPENED
We have beta 1!

HALLELUJAH

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Ok, now we'll wait another 6 years for beta 2 then another for beta 3 and maybe we'll get a fully functional OS in a few decades

;__;

Tried to play a jewtube video, and the browser promptly crashed. Sweet.

>had to manually put efi boot file in efi partition
>had to use graphics fallback
>had no wired internet connection
RIP Haiku. It's probably because of how new my system is... So I'll try it on some older shit later. I hope they don't take 6 fucking years to make another release.

You can use wired connections

does japanese poem even have a decent software selection?

It's the ONLY type you can use. WiFi is terrible on Haiku at this stage

I'm using it right now.

It doesn't work out of the box though

Mine did, it's an Intel card on an HP Stream 11

That's the thing that isn't working though.

>That's the thing that isn't working though.
Did you read the post?

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Are we speaking of different wired connections?

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What should I expect of this OS?

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Smooth sailing if you just wanna surf the web and watch videos

Otherwise, lack of support for a lot of hardware and no decent software at this point

Slowly coming along though

>DragonFly BSD
Which is why they license their original code under the GPL and have adopted glibc and gnu tools

Use otter browser.
Their native browser needs more support.

Various poweruser qt applications.
It has blender.
A bunch of ported linux terminal applications.

I remember being vaguely interested in Haiku many years ago but can't remember much about it. Is there anything in particular that really sets it apart from other OSes?

RO system

You might have to be more specific

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Convince me to drop Ubuntu for HaikuOS.

If you dont respect yourself, why should we try to change your mind?

Alright then don't

The installed packages just hirtually extracted, thus the system files are read only. Read the fucking Release Notes.