AMD to Release 7nm CPU in 2019

Actually, I just converted the swedish price to american dollar, and the 8700K in Sweden costs 510 USD right fuckig now holy shit

9900K is rumoured to be 450 I believe. So the 9900K will probably be 700USD here xD

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>tsmc borrowing from intel's playbook making their new node even slower than 14nm

bold strategy cotton let's see if it pays off for them

>9900K is rumoured to be 450 I believe
you're like a little goy, watch this!

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why is the vat so high in most european countries? welfare state? 7.7% here but they find ways to justify increased prices over US prices anyway. 9900k is going to come in $600+ in europe.

>Mindfactory
Fuck off, poorfag. Chads buy at Caseking

God I love waiting for tech so much.
I get a massive erection just thinking about not buying anything again next year in favour of 2020's line-up.

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meanwhile in reality
>10nm is dead
>12nm in
>even then: intel claimed first and 2nd gen 10nm would be alot slower than 14nm+++++++
can't wait for virgin Cope Lake (Emergency Edition™) benchmarks vs CHAD Epyc 2 CPU

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I've been seeing this a lot for the past few weeks and don't know anymore if it's just trolling or a real attempt by incel shills to get this bullshit into the "common knowledge" domain
I can see it unfolding before my eyes
>be year 2024
>normalfag coworkers discussing cpus
>bro, intel 10nm is comming next year and it will be better than TSMC 3nm
>dude, nanometers is just marketing, except for intel because they always tell the truth
alas, the ride never ends

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Exactly a year from now Intel is going to come forward saying they are ceasing 10nm research and production due to it being unprofitable and stick to 14nm forever

they can't because their shares would get a 50% hit

meant for

It makes for top tier bait posting. Intel fanboys genuinely do post shit like that all over, a famous one is Weitkin or something like that.
For years he spammed Anandtech's forum, EE Times, and a dozen other websites with thread and comments like
>only intel 14nm is real 14nm

He was dead serious about it all too. Conveniently ignoring how poor intel's 22nm node was on density. Not that any of that ever mattered. Shills are immune to logic.

Poozen will be so far behind Intel when the 9900K releases that they'll need a 50%+ bump in performance just to draw level. It's not going to happen.

>they'll need a 50%+ bump in performance just to draw level
yes, we all know that's how the intel compiler works. how else would they make people buy newer cpus?

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intel is fucked by arm, not amd.

>how the intel compiler works
I'm not sure how much there actually is to this but it's is interesting that Linux vs Windows benchmarks always seem to show a performance gap and sometimes it's pretty big. everything on the linux side tends to be compiled with gcc. compiler isn't the whole story on linux vs windows benchmarks, though, since there's usually also a performance gap on amd cpus too. it's usually smaller than it is on the intel side but it's there

Why though? I just buy it and still get a boner thinking about the next thing.

have a look at this bench then. why would 7600k score so inexplicably bad compared to the 8600k or 7700k?

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because it doesnt cost us £40k to see a doctor.

Not particularly fucked. There are OEMs coerced and locked-into contracts where Intel can give them stinking dog turds with a BGA on the bottom, they still have to sell them, and normies, shills and corporate will buy them.

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This is the best (You) I have ever gotten.

Because BFV is capable of using more than four threads? Surely that should be obvious.

Here's what I'd really like a strait and serious answer to, not that I expect Jow Forums to be able to actually answer but still: What's up with Intel's 14nm node?

This month we've had several news stories about high-end server manufacturers who are unable to buy Intel chips & are recommend that customers buy servers with AMD chips or older generation Intel chips. And there's also been news stories about Intel being able to deliver laptop chips and this is apparently so bad that many speculate the shortage of Intel laptop CPUs will cause DRAM prices to go down. This at a time when AMD has been taking market share from Intel.

Both these high-end server chips and lower-end laptop chips are made on Intel's 14nm node which has been in use for a very long time. Yet suddenly they have these huge delivery problems?

I would fully understand why Intel would be in this situation if there was some major disaster event like an earthquake taking out one of their factories or something like that. No such thing happened.

paying an extra premium to buy the exact same product doesn't make you rich, just stupid

then why would 2600x and 2700x score so poorly? given how filthy and greedy EA is I'd say there's a high likelihood they accepted shekels from intel

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are you some kind of stupid shill just replying with copypaste without reading what you're replying to?

>then why would 2600x and 2700x score so poorly?
Because Poozen is fucking trash for gaming and always has been? It isn't just about core IPC in synthetic tests and clock speed. Poozen is massively hamstrung by its inherent latency due to its architecture. It'll never be good for gaming.

but muh high yields, muh high cores

How much are Intel paying you? Whatever it is, you deserve more for having to embarrass yourself so disgustingly in front of everyone.

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>then why would 2600x and 2700x score so poorly?
It's proprietary code, we can't know that. Compiler problem is a probable cause.

Because Intel expected 10nm to be working on time. They already moved their chipset to 14nm, they already have some fab ready for 10nm. They're fucked up thanks to bad management.

Intel has the cash and it has the market share. AMD has shiny promises.

This.

>b-but monolithic design is dead!!
Yeah faggot let me know when developers start to optimize for Ryzen and then I'll buy it. I'm not buying something with a promise that it'll perform better in the future. The architecture itself has latency issues and gets top of the line CPU gets regularly BTFO by low-end Intel lineup, fucking embarrasing.

That's easy. Intel didn't invest in more 14nm manufacturing capacity because they thought they could get 10nm working in a reasonable timeframe.
Instead everything they made on 14nm is still stuck on 14nm, plus all the new 14nm orders, which means they have a huge capacity problem that's not going away any time soon because it takes years to build new foundries. Ironically, they might even make 10nm work by that time.
It's also why they're moving auxiliary things like chipsets back to 22nm, and outsourcing to TSMC.

t. proud owner of a quad core i5 who closes every program when playing his games like a good boy

>The architecture itself has latency issues and gets top of the line CPU gets regularly BTFO by low-end Intel lineup, fucking embarrasing.

Why Intlel cucks being this delusional?

s/boy/goy/

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Rationalisation.
>ZOMG I coulda bought a ryzen that would have gotten within 2fps of my /v/idya gayme for half the money I got off daddy

they're trying to manufacture bigger dies (for coffee lake-s and whatever the codename is for their upcoming server shit) and it's affecting yields.

>I run benchmarks and encode videos while I play games

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>next ill trot out the gta5 benchmarks thatll teach dem amdrones

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heh, you dare come here? get ready to be destroyed, you came to the wrong site buddy

>I'll post cherrypicked GPU bound benchmarks to cover up AMD's shitty single threaded performance and then I'll tell them it's the developers fault they can't optimize for 16 threads :)

>next gen is slower than prev gen
best timeline ever

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Why does Threadripper at 4.5GHz beat Intel at 4.5GHz?

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The future is now old man, benchmarks below 4k don't matter.

14nm has been pushed to its absolute limits and yields are dropping. Also, bigger dies because they don't have a process that can shrink them as expected.

Have fun sitting there running Cinebench over and over. Also:
>Skylake-X
Another architecture which suffers from many of the same issues as Poozen, and lags similarly behind in gaming. Nobody gives a shit about Skylake-X. Coffee Lake is Intel's latest and greatest, and even the 8700K blows Poozen away. The 9900K is just going to be plain unfair.

cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X/3937vs3956
>16% slower
>42% cheaper
Fuck, did ever hit the nail on the head.

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Should I get a 2700X to support the good guys or support the bad guys by getting a 8600k/8700k for 3D modeling and gayming?

Well it's a good thing monolithic garbage hosuefires are dead for all eternity and Intel gets pulverized where it matters where their $10000 abortions get completely curbstomped by Epyc. Intel can keep their gaymurr market (still getting outclassed there too lol) while AMD gets the HEDT and server market because MUH MONOLITHIC DIES

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>games
>not GPU bound
oh wait, I keep forgetting you incel soiyms only play on 320x240 low

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>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC 10nm.
>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC 7nm.
>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC +7nm.
>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC 5nm.
>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC 3nm.
>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC 1nm.
>Intel's 10nm is on par with TSMC graphine prosess
when does the denial of intelfags end?

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>intel stutterfires
>productivity
Lol no

Naturally buying hardware is political, it's a political statement. So you should see which party you want to support and buy their most expensive cpu.

I'll bet quids that Ryzen wasn't running RAM at 3200MHz either. Would have brought the gap into the single digits.

Get whatever you like, user. If you're a gaymer though, I'd get the Ryzen, and plow the hundreds you'll save into an even awesome-er GPU.

...

>but it's the B-die fault
>but it's the drivers fault
>but they didn't even BLCK overclock it! It's basically an underclock
This coming from the people who always quick to point out delidding.

>320x240
What we need is 240x144

I'm an AMDrone fanboi++++, and tend to buy their cheapest CPUs.
>snuggles up to Piledriver - it's only early spring in here in the antipodes

>9900K is rumored to be 450 I believe
its $500 in america and bound to be paperlaunched here too

>$500 in america
So $700 in Europe LMAO

C'mon, at least 4:3 - 256x192.

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It wont even be in stock in europe, screencap this im calling paperlaunch

And might even crack the magic $1,000 here in Austfailure.

Intel sure loves NSA

Strange deja vu

Hush now faggot child, the grown-ups are talking.

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by not getting a b-die ram for your ryzen you risk a few less frames
by not delidding your Intel® Core™ i7 you risk getting your house burned down
it's literally a difference between life and death

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Intel lied and pushed false shit on their "independent" PR voices about Meltdown.
AMD never melts.

>MUH GAYMEN MUH 6 GORILLION FPS

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Sorry kangaroo

CS:GO DOESN'T MATTER!!!
you heard it here first, goy

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>2020
>Zen 3 gets released
>(((Intel))) files bankrupt
>Intlets on suicide watch

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I'm hopping mad! Or I'll just buy a $400 Ryzen with 90% of the go, and party.

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% cheaper
>I'm poor
AMD is good for one thing I'll give you that, they made Intel bump up the cores and then i5 8400 put top end Ryzens in their place again.

>hundreds you'll save
How would he be saving hundreds by going 2700X over 8700K? Not to mention he'll need to hand pick better RAM for Ryzen or else suffer another 10% performance decrease.

>should I buy a worse performing CPU just so I can virtue signal on an anonymous anime forum that I support le good guys

by not getting a b-die ram for your ryzen you risk performance below 30 frames per second
by not delidding your Intel® Core™ i7 you risk a few extra degrees
it's literally a difference between life and death

Not fucked at all. Contrary to popular belief on Jow Forums reducing die size doesn't mean you're magically better. It's also a feature that is not comparable across architectures, like clock speed, but most of Jow Forums is too retarded to realize this since you're all retarded consumerists who shill for companies and spout of numbers you don't know.

weirrrrrd every site i've looked at shows mankind divided running better on 2700x.

>7700K
>Low end
Intlel cucks are really being delusional.
Anyway, why don't you just put a link to a review sites instead of cherry picking a games that have bad optimization? (8700k only had 2 fps advantages over 7700k, even though it has 2 more cores than 7700k lmao.)

>this is what incucks actually believe

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AYYMD ABSOLUTELY BTF

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>buy a worse performing cpu that lit a fire under intels ass and completely btfo then in productivity
Not everyone that has a built computer only plays gayms
>I have to hand pick ram
3200mhz and I’m good to go. You have to be a class A brainlet to get under 3200 in the first place

Taxes work out differently in Europe than it does in the US, simply because of how society is organised (e.g. a federalised country vs. a single state). They also pay for a lot more stuff than the US does.

>The 9900K is just going to be plain unfair.
less than 10% improvement in ipc and 2 more cores are considered revolutionary by incels. and don't try to pretend the effective ipc will go up by more than 10%. If it could, it would've happened with 8700k. Gobble up that cum all you want, it's not happening anyway
The real issue is that intel is now selling gimped cores with no hyperthreading on all but the top levels because they chose performance over security

>i5 8400 put top end Ryzens in their place again.
back to /v/

>Userbenchmark
I will never ever trust """"average"""" benchmark.

>intel marketers damage control

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In a perfect world, companies like Intel would not exist.
But this is not a perfect world.

>classical shitpost with no point

>classical opposing companie is totall poopoo, our problems are fine though

>and now faced with an exact copy of their shitposting they realize

>that hey it's actually just a shitpost

Imagine lacking the self awareness to essentially shitpost on your own shitpost.

Are AMD shills literal NPCs?

>less than 10% improvement in ipc
0% actually