>What is XMPP? Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) is a communication protocol for message-oriented middleware. Unlike most instant messaging protocols, XMPP is defined in an open standard and uses an open systems approach of development and application, by which anyone may implement an XMPP service and interoperate with other organizations' implementations. Because XMPP is an open protocol, implementations can be developed using any software license and many server, client, and library implementations are distributed as free and open-source software.
>What client should I use? Get Conversations if you are on Android, Gajim or Pidgin on desktop PC.
>How do I join this Jow Forums groupchat? Here is the link: xmpp:[email protected]?join
MotherFUCKER. You have no idea how long I spent trying to get Openfire to communicate with a locally hosted SMS Gateway and using an SMS service to forward the messages and writing an incredibly complex script to handle reply routing.
I love and hate you at the same time.
Jose Williams
i love you too user. what were you using anyway, twilio? just curious, we don't use sms where i live.
Joseph Martinez
>wonder if there are XEPs for video calling >take a look >shit isn't finished yet
You know something's wrong here when Jabber is apparently competing with centralized shit like Signal. I use Jabber but normies won't until it has video calling.
Aiden Martin
I was using Nexmo as the provider then using a Jasmin server to route the messages. But that process quickly spun out of control and I just said "Fuck it" and told the CEO I was shelving it for awhile.
Let this be a lesson kids: working through stuff on your own is great and encouraged. But at a certain point ASK FOR DAMN HELP.
Luis Nelson
you can bet normies won't use xmpp with video calling either. doesn't jingle support video calls anyway? i remember calling through pidgin years ago.
Kevin Ross
Use it with OTR but I am thinking that perhaps OTR has been superseded by another protocol?
Michael Nguyen
Why don't people federate Signal?
Kevin Ward
>dealing with phone numbers
Charles Smith
Yep use OMEMO. Switch it on, verify some fingerprints and you can turn your brain off. It's that easy.
Carson Carter
omemo is newer but not all clients support it yet. both omemo and otr are okay. gpg can also be used but it's not as common for chatting
i don't think signal is designed to be federated. wire on the other hand may be getting federation soon
Ryan Myers
>omemo Thanks - that was what I was thinking of, but its name escaped me. I did not know that gpg could be utilised as well
Luis Wright
Using Conversations on my phone and Gajim w/ OMEMO plugin on my computers. Multi-device chatting works flawlessly.
Jackson Nelson
Sweet. Well done.
Evan Reyes
which server?
Isaiah Peterson
no good desktop client no good group chats no normal people would use this dead
Jacob Gutierrez
>no good desktop client gajim, psi and pidgin for the desktop. conversations and xabber for android. >no good group chats >no normal people would use this that's your opinion man >dead it's an open protocol, it can't die
James Perry
I use patchcord.be
Calyx is a good one if all your friends use encryption (they probably can since only autists use jabber)
Does it just werk? I only need to install the client and it werks?
Jaxson Ward
1. register XMPP account on server provider (generally free) 2. install client 3. plug in account details 4. add niGGaZ to your contacts list optional: enable encryption 5. chat
Aaron Anderson
Never mind then
Owen Morris
it's not any harder than using another instant messaging platform
Caleb Martin
You can register in the client
Juan Powell
Use Matrix.
Jason Allen
>>this website can help you pick a server Does it matter what XMPP server we use if we want to connect to [email protected]?
Connor Perez
no, just use any thats gratis
Noah Watson
the problem with xmpp is that each client supports a different set of extensions. it's literally impossible to find a client that you like and that has the extensions you want.
David Gray
>the problem with xmpp is that each client supports a different set of extensions. aren't gajim and conversations the best for desktop and android because they support the most extensions?
Henry Richardson
but gajim is ugly as fuck and uses too much memory. pidgin would have been perfect for me if it supported MAN
Samuel Edwards
>but gajim is ugly as fuck and uses too much memory. it looks the same as pidgin and I don't see a difference in memory usage.
you're probably some gross neet who thinks every program should use like 10mb of ram for his shitty PC
Austin Watson
poorfags cannot afford programs that use 1-2 gigs of ram just for showing few buttons
You are right. I should instead use use discord's electron app™ which at least looks nice, has users and more features (that actually work well). Thanks user for opening my eyed.
Ring is downright awful. Laggy, ugly, bloated, slow.
Asher Rodriguez
Gays and gaymers use Discord. Other normal people use Skype, Facebook or whatever other botnet comes with their phone. Pick your poison if you want to communicate with them. You're obviously not going to get them to install mostly sane software that uses the XMPP or Mumble protocols since those aren't owned and run by gazillionaire near-sovereign corporations that sell your dick pics to your government.
Xavier Brooks
so i got ugly, and three synonyms for "laggy," which if you read up on how it works normie there's some awesome stuff going on.
please. what platforms have you tried it on? it only needs major work on windows (which is pretty buggy), haven't tried it on iOS.
Daniel Hughes
Android and Windows. Terrible experience. It's like using pre-pre-Alpha software. It was literally worse than using Tox.
Asher Edwards
Im probably just bad, but I can't figure put how to get it working.
I have Zentyal server running, and it comes with jabber. I thought it was set up, but the client times out when connecting. Not sure what to do, or what logs to check. I coupdnt find things in the logs I did check.
Nolan Ross
I'd recommend using a standalone Prosody. I've never had a good experience with those large "just werks" groupware things.
Josiah Hall
*shrug* works fine on my redmi 5 plus, mac, and linux laptop. i'm very happy with what it offers. rip on it all you want you won't make me stop loving it.
Jonathan Perez
You don't talk to anybody on Ring. Nobody could possibly be ok with using that.
Thomas Morales
i fucking use it all the time. go back to le reddit/dipshit/normie/newfag.
or you just tried it on a potato phone and windows.
funny thing, logical OR gates...
Nicholas Reyes
Is it schizo hour?
Caleb Williams
that made me chuckle, chucklefuck.
because now it's ad hominem? you're the mental case, hijo.
i slammed my chat server 17 lines into a sidewalk motherfucker full encryption and it works on linux 100%
Nicholas Gomez
XMPP is dead. Matrix is the current such thing.
William Taylor
>Matrix is the current such thing. slow protocol
Noah Collins
Matrix is good for collaboration and despite being very Discord-like, it doesn't draw in the Discord trash. It is however not really what I'm looking for when it comes to simple conversation. I use it, IRC and XMPP for different purposes.
Matrix also feels very... open-source. Certainly not for everyone.