Should AI-made CP be illegal?

what if the child consents tho?

What are you smoking? Anywhere where drawn loli is legal it would be legal too.
Hyper realistic 3D renders of CP are legal, so why shouldn't AI generated imagery be?

You missed the point hard why driving too fast is against the law. Do you also think it's the same with seatbelts?

>Anywhere where drawn loli is legal it would be legal too.
Which is not as common as you might think. And yes, you can also distinguish between loli and realistic depictions of children.

Then please explain it to me.

Whether you beat to it or not, the crime is still happening. If AI generated works were created, then childrens' lives would be saved from manipulation. Even if its one less child, that's still a 100% improvement.

It shouldn't because if it becomes more realistic it would probably keep quite some people from jerking of to real cp.

How would you even create that?
In order to create an AI, you'd need to feed it gigabytes worth of CP so it can learn what it is.
Where do you even plan to get that from?

Yes, but very hard found home make digital childrens.

wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn

As long as it stops right wingers from raping real children, I guess it's better than the alternative.

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would you give child androids to pedophiles if that meant they would not touch real children? the status quo forces pedophile in a vigilant/stressful state where they need to hide and repress themselves. this leads eventually, in weak minded elements, into violence. I wonder if androids can help frustrated people meaning that you can use androids as a tool to prevent violent escalations in a similar way to how masturbation helps you in absence of a partner you can have sex with

In order to create a GANN, you have to feed the network thousands of examples of target images. The network would not only look at child pornography, but also use parts of those images to generate new ones. And as far as I know, cutting and pasting together images of child pornography, to create new images, is still illegal.

>gigabytes worth of CP
and what do you think OP has on his hard drive?
he's already prepared hundreds of gigabytes just in case.

>Where do you even plan to get that from?

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>muh degeneracy
Back to r/pol with you.

Yes, like drawings,3D assets and texts.

>In XX years, photo-realistic CGI will produce humans convincing enough to deceive humans and automated service androids with look just like the real thing and be used for everything from cleaning the house to having sex.
There's literally no way of stopping this. It doesn't even matter if you're on one side or the other, you can't stop people's sexual drive. I hope you're all prepared and aren't deluded enough to think you can fight progress. Even if you make it illegal, they'll get their disgusting hands on it (just like with actual CP). Honestly, it is an alternative to have them not seek out the real thing.

It already is where I live.

And soon after that, the AI will no longer need humans and will optimize the useless parts away.

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So, do you put the AI in jail for doing this? Its programmers? What if ebaumsworld did it as a prank?

Hypothetically would it be okay to have sex with a robot dog?

Fucking ebaumsworld hackers at it again

Good riddance.

Bad Dragon toys exist you know, it's just a step up from that.

let's just make children illegal. no child, no cp.

Fucking lainchan baiters. I hope you eventually groom some FBI agent.

itd be okay to have sex with a real dog if its okay with it imo

>class leakage
what a benign term for generating nightmarish imagery

>AI-made CP
>CP Deep Fakes
sauce pls

if it's not ready then let's dev it asap.

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I'm sure you could use as is. An adult's face on a child's body would look very weird though.

Oh man. This is a nice can of worms you have here, I can't wait for it to be debated in court.
How would you even tell if it's real or not? What's stopping people from claiming AI when it's actually real?
Oh man oh man oh man.

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but it's accurate.
>Pomeranian leaking into tennis ball
>thatch hut leaking into regular house
>jew nose leaking into bird beak
>leopard leaking into fox, fox leaking into grass

That's basically what killed the subreddits.

You could do such a thing from realistic 3D renders, non-nude parts of real lolis and 18+ that just looks like jailbait.

>Which is not as common as you might think. And yes, you can also distinguish between loli and realistic depictions of children.
It's common in several US states, Japan and most of EU. All that I can give a fuck about.

CP is illegal because it's evidence of a crime. Since AI generated CP is not actual photographs, it's not illegal.

Wait, does that make gore and isis execution videos illegal too?

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The fact that laws protect victims is merely an icing on the cake to make them more palatable to people, it is not their intended purpose.

>most of EU
No, not really. And again, drawing a stylized child isn't the same as taking real life footage of children (e.g. to train an AI) to create porn.

>evidence of a crime is illegal
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

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Wrong. That argument relies on the collector keeping a promise to never act out. When was the last time a human ever kept a promise. Purge and genocide all Pedos, in real life, is Better.

>the status quo forces pedophile in a vigilant/stressful state where they need to hide and repress themselves.

LOL not anymore

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How about an AI that converts Anime Loli hentai to realistic pedo deepfakes?

le all men are rapists

Personally, I'm not going to "trust" kiddie diddlers the same way I'm not going to "trust" junkies.. That's, as bobby brown says "my prerogative" and yes, he was a wife beater and black.

>download a dataset of naked and fully clothed adults
>download a dataset of fully clothed children
>train a model to learn the concepts of a naked adults using a denoising autoencoder or GAN
>apply the model onto the dataset of clothed children, get shitty CP

>never get caught because you never downloaded CP
???

>Get caught for producing CP

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Never leave home.
Literally Perfect crime.
No outside life.

>caught
That's the thing. How would you catch somebody like that, if he never shares his work online and perhaps even stores everything on an offline machine? The only thing that might be suspicious is him downloading tons of normal children photos.

When he ask the geek squad to fix his PC.

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Basically be off line, never go outside, never interact with anyone... Never be questioned.

Basically prison without the buttsecks!

So they will actually contain pedos and attempt to cure them?
That actually sounds like a solution, as opposed to telling "all pedos" (ie. no one, since most pedos don't think they are pedos) to kill themselves, then crying when some priest inevitably rapes a child.

Slippery slope into child-rape-free world sounds fine by me.

Most laws under the guise of 'protecting the children' are sham laws anyhow invented to suprress those that might gain positions of power and to keep the general plebians in their collective places.

Curing Pedos is easy, get them hooked on opium and then let them overdose. Very easy solution.

>two kids fucking is a crime
>one kid masturbating is a crime

>dry vanilla extract
>it turns into a white powder
muhfuggin colonizers did this

There is a Photoshop artist called Alex who makes realistic mock ups using child actors faces. He can incur a ban on /b/ because of the realism.

How do you know this person?

Real death and murder is a western tradition. We see it every day on TV and in movies so the real stuff gets a free pass (Unless it comes under hate speech etc like in the UK).

Sex makes peoples brains turn to mush and anything they find 'icky' gets beaten into laws of indecency so a subjective thing becomes and objective thing they can use against you anytime it hurts their precious feelies.

Epic
Retards always come up with those brilliant ideas on how to solve crime and kill all monsters, but somehow the reason for why no one is doing that keeps eluding you.

It's not because people don't want pedos dead. It's because if you do it once, pedos will be more paranoid in the future. Unless you manage to get them all at once (you won't), this is a retarded idea.
Instead, you need a honeypot. Trade pedo's freedom for safety from persecution. Isolate them, remind them that everyone outside wants them dead, promise safety in a special pedo not-prison.
And keep it that way, no moronic
>and then kill them while they're cornered xD
because that would only work in short term and fuck up the long term.

>Sex makes peoples brains turn to mush

sex makes my peepee turn to mush

Wouldn't you need real CP to train it? That would make it illegal.

When they are referring to the minumum age of 16 years are they referring to the minor or the person has to be over 16 and have that desire for 5 or more years to qualify as a pedo? Hopefully they mean the latter.

We don't use actual vanilla anymore.
It's cheaper to just synth the thing in the lab, the real deal.

Because I visit /b/ loli threads. I am a pedophile and a zoophile + furry (gay or straight). I don't give a shit what you moralfags think. I would never harm a child. I just fap to fetish porn in my basement. I'm in my 50's BTW so if I was going to do anything I would have done it by now. NPC edgelords need not reply.

No victim no crime.

If you could kill all pedophiles today it would not solve the problem in the long term./ Pedophiles would still be born. It might even be your child that becomes one.

But people don't think beyond their self interests.

Pedos are a minority like faggots. Remember when gay bashing was OK?.. That was a good thing... Upping the stakes, majority will still win.. As a society, we are becoming pussified.. Pedos should be terrified... As a normal state, not "comfy"..

>Wouldn't you need real CP to train it?

Not really. They could use anatomical models of children.

The universe is lol random. Do whatever the fuck you want. If you can get away with it. You only live once! :D

BTW if you accept that pedophilia is abnormal you must also accept that anything outside of stright sex for the sole purpose of procreation is abnormal. That includes homosexuality.

>In b4 consent argument which has NOTHING to do with what is productive in terms of biology.

>straight sex
Fixed.

But seriously. Sexual morality is stupid.

>In b4 consent argument which has NOTHING to do with what is productive in terms of biology.

Children can't breed? that has everything to do with what is productive.

Besides, the issue is developmental harm, at least in the scenario of actual molestation and not "fantasizing"

You are a massive retard and are completely ignorant of how normal people and criminals think.

Right now pedos consider themselves not to be pedos because there is so much stigma attached to it that it's easier for them to lie to themselves that they're normal even as they fap to CP or prey on altar boys.

And your comparison to homosexuality only shows that you are an extra retarded moron who can't tell the difference between human sexuality between consenting, sane people, and between deranged, predatory behavior.
You honestly should end your life. That would be the smartest thing you'd do in your life.

>BTW if you accept that pedophilia is abnormal you must also accept that anything outside of stright sex for the sole purpose of procreation is abnormal.
This is what subhumans genuinely believe

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Homos cannot breed either. But it's OK to have a trans kid and have them play dressup at the next Pride march.

Literally not going to end my life. Overruled. My life cucks your suicide suggestion. You lose, faggot, again, not the first time, is it, or the last.

Keep on doing retarded shit then. Keep smoking and drinking, like other low IQ degenerates.

>No, not really.
Dude, I live in EU, lived in several countries, I don't need to look it up to know.
Also wrong, see The magic is that you don't have to use real material to get a result that looks real

That's just The USA. Actual people in the rest of the world aren't as retarded about those two things.

Imagine being the dude who makes the renders.
I bet it will be a job dominated by christians, jews and muslims.

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Your grandparents and great grandparents very likely smoked, and drank, unlike you, go shit on their grave, faggot. Yep, Shitting on your ancestors, truly pathetic... Sorry for treating you so small, but, you asked for it, by being such a dick.

I don't think that at all. I think that pedophilia is highly misunderstood and science is being prevented from studying it more closely due to social stigma. Everytime a psychologist puts forward a theory or proposes more reasearch they get shot down (witness Jow Forumss attack pon that TED speaker).
People suffer from head in sand syndrome. They simply do not wish to deal with it so they rely on harsh laws to have anyone suspected of being a pedophile thrwin in prison whether it is justified or not.
Hate is a powerful supressant of open debate when collectively nurtured into mob mentality.
Many oppressive regimes work on a similar basis.
NPCs do not wish for the 'normalization' of pedophilia as they lkike to call it.
I am not asking for such a thing. I am asking for it to be researched in an objective manner. But that does not fall into most folks shortsighted agendas.

Teenagers can however.

>pon = upon
>thrwin = thrown
>lkike = like
Fixed.

There are tona of victimless crimes.

>I don't think that at all.
You're probably replying to a wrong person.
Unless you're a massive retard who thinks that punishing pedos for being found out is the best way to deal with problem of child rape, and that pedophilia is comparable to homosexuality, despite those two being completely unrelated and having negative correlation.

And they are a retarded mechanism for nanny states to interfere in private lives.

Homosexuality is just as abnormal as pedophlia. Just because two 'adults' can stick it up each others poopers does not mean it's normal.

Go back to tard pit, subhuman.

What other persons besides Alex constitute a ban ?