What is the benefit of GNU/systemd based operating systems vs the Linux based operating systems such as Gentoo?
What is the benefit of GNU/systemd based operating systems vs the Linux based operating systems such as Gentoo?
Hunter Carter
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Josiah Brown
The insanity of binary log files.
Josiah Kelly
Parallelization of system component startup and intelligent daemon dependency resolution.
It suffers from a bit of scope/feature creep, but some of those features are worth having.
William Bennett
Turning your motherboard into a brick by mounting efivars rw.
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>Parallelization of system component startup
openrc does this too.
>It suffers from a bit of scope/feature creep
>1+ million loc
>a BIT
lmao
>some of those features are worth having.
hell yeah! I love having 8.8.8.8 as dns by default
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Jace Nguyen
shut up goyim install arch linux or you aren't a hacker
Christian Lopez
Julian Ramirez
Will systemd actually kill me. I run a minimal install of Fedora 28 but I've been told it slowly, over time, turns into a second kernel.
John Howard
simpler service management.
Carson Morris
What the fuck is systemd and why should i care about it
Jackson Howard
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Jace Carter
Why is this a reply I just witnessed. What about his post is /v/?
Adam Jenkins
The implication is that if you don't know what systemd is, or can't be assed to at least google it, then you belong in /v/, not Jow Forums
John Myers
Let me rephrase the question. What would the advantage of using a distro without systemd be?
Henry Young
if you don't care about a "clean" system: none
if you do care: Everything. systemd is a creep. it tries to suck in every component that unices have traditionally been composed off. it does that in a manner that has not been found in the world of unix before. in the longtime it will drastically alter Linux as an OS.
why is that worse? because systemd tries hard to be smart. it automatically creates files, it logs in gibberish (you can change that... we know but it is stupid in the first place), it starts services "on the fly" and it creates a big fat dependency. this will result in less stable systems in the near future.
we will see race conditions at boot (already happening) because the order of starting the services and daemons is not determined anymore.
we will face unexpected behaviour whenever a smart systemd service fails (e.g. mounting)
and last but not least (just a conclusion of everything before)
we will lose control over the computer. whoever controls systemd will dictate the way your computer works if you use it. that simple.
the actual advantage of every other init system is that everything above does not happen.
Hudson Morris
so would you risk it even more and mount it everytime theres a kernel or grub update? lennart is based, if you're not dumb you don't fuck your shit up
Henry Anderson
kek
Justin Moore
>kernel
you don't need efivars at all for kernel updates
>grub update
how often do you update your fucking bootloader?
William Walker
>muh startup / shutdown
that's a meme
the only advantage sysd has is laziness
Robert Fisher
kys
Angel Murphy
wew
Angel Adams
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