2018

>MOM LOOK I USE ARCH LINUX, IM ABOUT 200IQ, MOM PLEASE IM SMART TELL THEM.

the screenie of the arch mailing list where the dev says its not minimal and was never meant to be

It's very 2ch

Maby actual work to do

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to install Arch. The wiki is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of computer science most of the steps will go over a typical users head.

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Why do faggots put stickers on their computer? It screams insecurities and special snowflake disorder.

not being a manchild

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Gaming on Linux is still a joke

>Gaming is srs business and very important

I'd rather use Gentoo or Debian.

Arch is trash.

>he wiki is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of computer science most of the steps will go over a typical users head.
Wtf? The arch install article in their wiki is super handholding.

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>excuse
>Arch devs say Arch is meant to be easy to maintain for developers, not easy for end users
>Arch is bloated, _all_ configuration options and flags are enabled on _all_ packages
>pacman -Syu used to break Xorg all the time, don't know if they fixed it, don't care
>Arch uses systemd, anything else snd you have an unstable frankenstein
>to make Arch usable people had to make distros that add basic functionality, like an installer
>Arch community is toxic and elitist for no reason
>void, gentoo and slackware exist
>void: the simplicity arch advertises but doesn't possess
>gentoo: the customisability and control arch advertises but doesn't have
>slackware: teaches you about linux, something Arch supposedly does but actually doesn't

It's a rick and morty reddit copypasta that he changed to fit the thread. Lurk moar.

Unstable fucking garbage that can't even test their shit for basic usability.

Enjoy having everything suddenly not work after an update. Happened to me one too many goddamn times in a very short time span forcing me to manually roll back to the last version of those packages and that was fucking it for me. It used to be a lot better but they've fucking gone off the deep end lately and it's not even worth considering.

You've just answered to yourself.

>customizing desktop and wallpaper is ok
>customizing the outside of your laptop nooooo theyre just insecure

>2018
>being fucking stupid normie fag
>try to shame others on korean underwater basket waving anime board
reported

I don't use Arch because I'm not a redditnigger.

i'm not a faggot

>It screams insecurities and special snowflake disorder.
I love how the typical kiddo contrarian answer to pretty much everything in life has been reduced to "wear a plain black t-shirt or you're a special snowflake attention whore hipster pickle rick reddit maga!" It's funny, but it's also kinda sad. It's like you're so against what you think is a hipster that you've literally become one yourself. I'm sure it's "layers of irony" or something.

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What the fuck does Arch have to do with Reddit?

>not having Linux stickers to show intellectual dominance in public
wew lad

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>unironically not wearing a black tshirt

google unixporn and find out.

Okay, I did. I found a subreddit called Jow Forumsunixporn infested with ricerfag types. Again, what does this have to do with Arch?

I use Mint because I've got shit to do

>mint
mint is planning to switch from Ubuntu to Arch :^)

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Nah, they're not.

I use arch for babies

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>>Arch devs say Arch is meant to be easy to maintain for developers, not easy for end users
It's easy for both. Arch is the most stable RR distro.
>>Arch is bloated, _all_ configuration options and flags are enabled on _all_ packages
Nobody said Arch was minimalist. Arch is designed to be bleeding edge, not minimalist.
>>pacman -Syu used to break Xorg all the time, don't know if they fixed it, don't care
The updates do that, pacman is not responsible as it is merely a package manager.
>>Arch uses systemd, anything else snd you have an unstable frankenstein
There is nothing wrong with systemd.
>>to make Arch usable people had to make distros that add basic functionality, like an installer
Graphical installers are slow and tedious. Text installers are far better.
>>Arch community is toxic and elitist for no reason
Toxic is a stupid buzzword used by fragile people to deflect the arguments of people they dislike.
>>void, gentoo and slackware exist
None of those are at all similar to Arch. Do you even know anything about these distros or do you think they're the same because Jow Forums makes memes about them?
>>void: the simplicity arch advertises but doesn't possess
Void is nothing like Arch, though Arch is simpler than Void for the user.
>>gentoo: the customisability and control arch advertises but doesn't have
Arch isn't about customisability.
>>slackware: teaches you about linux, something Arch supposedly does but actually doesn't
Nobody claims Arch teaches you about the kernel, you don't even have to touch the kernel in Arch.

rms refuses to wear shirts with logos or branding. I will take his advice. But he also puts stickers on his laptop, so I do that as well. My Thinkpad R50e has GNU and InfoWars stickers on it.

I actually like arch, it's fast and simple enough, been running it for a year and a half now and it never broke on me once.
At least not if the couse wasn't me beeing stupid.

t. Archfag

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faggot detected

Archfags match the classic reddit user archetype: attentionwhoring, pseudointellectualism and the need of peer approval. Meanwhile they snicker and smug at people they consider their inferior.

Been unironically using Arch for over a year and, no problems at all because I READ the release notes before updating.
However, I'll admit, it's not as comfy as Debian.

>There is nothing wrong with systemd.
yes. there is.

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>However, I'll admit, it's not as comfy as Debian.
Then why aren't you using Debian?

>>to make Arch usable people had to make distros that add basic functionality, like an installer
installers suck ass, break and fuck your shit up
whiners like you should kys for all the nerves your installers cost me

implying void is not a pita and a meme

>pushing to unify basic configuration between Linux distros while still offering a choice for those who really want to be autistically different
This seems great to me

could you be more specific

you could have just said r/unixporn faggot

Tfw when your laptop becomes meme on Jow Forums

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>Gaming keyboard
>Razer mouse pad
Poe's Law in full force

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When will Archfags stop pretending that it's hard to install?

NixOS, Slackware, and Gentoo are all better options.

It's the best mechanical keyboard for this price I could buy for this price. And razer mouse pad I got for free so why not use it?
I don't play any games, I just wanted comfy keyboard for programming.

>for this price I could buy for this price
it's clearly broken

Covering your laptop with stickers does look childish and stupid. A couple stickers is fine and can be a decent conversation starter if you're too shy to just talk to people.

Don't worship rms too much. He's done a lot of good but lord almighty is he fucking ever out of touch with reality.

Because I know how to install Gentoo

It's always funny watching you losers complaining about toxic community in Jow Forums of all places.

>use spaghetti programs written by mouthbreathers
>break every time they try to fix shit
>hurr Arch is shit
holy shit the IQ of this board must be horrendous

>fucking pacman

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Nobody whonuses it does. It's easier than any graphical installer.

i use gentoo

>Don't worship rms too much. He's done a lot of good but lord almighty is he fucking ever out of touch with reality.
No he isn't. Give me five examples of this.

i don't use it because i don't care about having a "perfect" linux installation with as few packages as possible and "0 bloat". it's not that i can't install arch, i had my own arch phase at one point. eventually you'll realize that if you just want a decent linux distro with all the common things you need already there for you it doesn't matter if there's some other shit left on the side. just use whatever works, distro choice is arbitrary

Why do these descriptions always also match Jow Forums to the letter?

It's a royal pain in the ass. Every update breaks something and I'm realizing it's a distro made for neets who have time to "fix" it for hours on end because they have nothing else to do. I don't have time to spend on all that shit because I actually have a career, so the Arch machine is my "fun" laptop and now I've gone back to using my MBP for actual work.

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>arch
>high-maintainance.
No. It's super low maintainance, if you're not a n00b.

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additionally
>2018
>not using wm instead of bloated de

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>2018
>No original installer with interface.

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>"Arch is superior."
*Pacman bites xorg.conf*
>"NOOO PACMAN NOOOO, I NEED TO SHOW EVERYBODY MY ANIME WALLPAPER AND TILING WINDOWS."
>*Xorg.conf error, Archtank cant load i3"
>I-I will fix it in no time
>*Drivers sucessfuly loaded, Mintank now activates DE*
>"HA--HA Priopertiary drivers"
>*Cinnamon DE activated, Mintank ready to operate*
>B-UT CINNAMON IS A BLOAT
>"ArchTank meets unknown error, KERNEL PANIC ACTIVATED"

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>2018
>needing installer with interface
are you a 12yo

It has never happened to me, it's a meme.

>look mum I posted Xorg meme from last decade again

I've had intercourse with multiple females in my lifetime for free.

>Le "I;m pro because i spend time copying commands from internet instead of using a tool what makes the same job faster and more comfortable" meme

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>There is nothing wrong with systemd.

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>le you need to copy commands from the internet

only the first time you'll do that, after which you'll create script with those commands and your customizations, so you can install fully preconfigured system automatically like a pro, instead of wasting time clicking through GUI like a baby

>2018
>using Arch
>not using Parabola on liberated hardware

What are you? An enslaved pleb?

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>implying that everybody on Jow Forums and Jow Forumseddit doesn't use Zen installer

Well so you basically you make something what most graphical installers have. But the diffrence is it has preconfigured settings so even if its god for you, it is not universal.

Instalers are basicali scripts you meant but with posibilities of changing settings and being more universal.

>*Pacman bites xorg.conf*
This will never happen, moron.
Three reasons:
1. xorg doesn't include an xorg.conf
2. arch doesn't patch upstream packages unless absolutely necessary.
3. If above failed, pacman doesn't overwrite config files, it'd create an xorg.org.pacnew

And this is why you are clueless about Arch and talking off your ass.

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Based

[X]

Proof?

pacman creates pacnew files if the existing conf file has bee edited.
>I guess checksums.

its just gonna be more fragmented and Jow Forums will switch to the version with less users

at least rice the thing if you're gonna act superior

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Whats a purpose of UI like that?

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tiling is more keyboard driven, which is very nice on a laptop. I hate touch-pads.

>that update alias
dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

>download arch
>spend an afternoon installing it if you have no prior experience of it
>install a DE
>done, computer is finally usable
>packages will break in a month or two forcing you to reinstall

>install manjaro
>literally get the same result in 10 minutes
Arch is a meme distro for retards who think they're cool because they use command line tools.

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what's dumb about updating the package db and packages afterwards?

what's wrong with vanilla poweroff/reboot?

Besides that using yy instead of y isn't needed, but I won't go into it since everyone and their mother does it, why oh why would you split it in 2 commands instead of using -Syyu ?

systemd does more shit so it shuts down properly this way, but this could be old information I haven't changed it in a long time.

I have had to do yy in the past in certain cases, so I just do it every time now (I dont update often anyway)
>why would you split it in 2 commands instead of using -Syyu
didn't know this was possible, thanks