>Minimal base Programs >WM (window manager) dwm or i3 >Web browsers Firefox Quantum or any of the popular text based web browsers (w3m, links) hooktube.com/watch?v=cNr-nobIjks (Terminal-based Web Browsing with w3m) >File Manager Terminal (cp, ls, cd, mv) >Video/Music player mpv or cmus >Text editors GNU nano or Vim >Image viewer FEH or sxiv >Shells mksh or dash >Terminal st (simple terminal)
It's not. I had an Arch build with 488 packages on my laptop with 2 DEs, imagemagick, java and an IDE last year. I had to switch to Debian for work though.
Noah White
dats a dude
Hudson Green
>I had to switch to Debian for work though. >tfw your work cucks you Why?
Jeremiah Lopez
I need this thread, thanks op. Im a noob but my goal with Linux aside from some programming is to end up with a very minimal system.
Liam Carter
>tfw you finally realize ublock origin is the only necessary extension
Oliver Fisher
no it's not you autistic fuck
Logan Morris
I have lived in Berkeley CA and I see hoes like this everywhere.
I dated a hotcunt jewish girl and I regret it
Jack Gonzalez
>dead eyes la creatura
Adam Adams
Jow Forums >Just assumes every hot girl is a tranny, because fell for 'the trap' too many times.
Jayden Turner
#RiceBR
Aaron Taylor
10GbE will never be mainstream. Eventually ethernet will be removed from mobos and become dongle only.
Oliver Myers
This, probably even faster in the shit countries because it will be cheaper infrastructure.
Daniel Garcia
>Firefox is minimal Every time I see this it reminds me that you all don't have a single clear definition of what minimal is, and is the reason I don't visit these threads more.
Either minimal is an absolute and each piece of software is itself minimal or not-minimal based on its own code design, in which case Firefox is absolutely not minimal. Or minimal means "a system that minimally meets all of my needs" in which case Firefox is acceptable, but so too is a LOT of other stuff that I know you all would never want to accept as minimal.
Make up your minds which definition you prefer, or keep roleplaying. There is no middle ground.
Christian Bennett
>this Fuck you autistic losers
Zachary Kelly
This one has bugged me too, I quit FF because of sluggishness when I was on a shit system. The only FF I MIGHT consider is that privacy focused one that doesn't seem to save anything, forget what its called.
Grayson Ward
Tor?
Nolan Howard
setting your dns to 9.9.9.9 takes care of most web related problems. you HAVE set your dns to quad9, right user?
Dominic Gomez
recommendations for distros that work ootb? 1 vote for bunsenlabs from me. just uninstall the login manager; fuck login managers
Nicholas Kelly
Are they really trustworthy? More so than 1.1.1.1?
Zachary Cruz
can you recommend a more minimal distro that has an actual installer?
Jose Long
Personally I recommend Manjaro, it's quick to get up and running, easy to use, looks nice, not too bloaty unless you're a mega fag who refuses to have more than 3 packages installed
Christian Clark
your goal should be 40MB RAM use with a functioning GUI, because that is easy to do
Henry Foster
>wanting an installer What are you fucking gay? Install Gentoo
Asher Harris
i dont care what definition of minimal you go by, there is no way firefox fits the definition.
OP, please remove ff Also, why list OpenBSD but not NetBSD?
Julian Wright
>actual installer? You don't need one.
Carson Garcia
Gentoo sounds to arcane for a noob and the memes just make it seem overly complex. Why is Jow Forums the board with the least visual material in terms of infographics and memes and shit? Other boards can get their ideas across quite simply but not here or maybe its just the use of wms and text browsers?
Matthew Bell
>manjaro >kde >comfy
please go to back we don't want retards using fork distros
Daniel Watson
Exactly. I think this is the thought process behind including Firefox in the list >I want to be minimal and will do whatever it takes >I HAVE to have a bloated browser like firefox for certain sites >Because I really want to be minimal, and I have to have firefox that means firefox must be minimal
But it's better to strive for something you don't have, and be honest with yourself than it is to pretend you have something you don't. I use Firefox myself, but I would much rather always remember that FF is bloat and that I should never stop looking for ways to reduce my dependence on it, than to fool myself into thinking I'm minimal by drawing a really awkward line around "minimal" software that includes firefox. Furthermore, what kind of message is it sending others? Especially would-be developers. Do you all really want to teach people that Firefox is an acceptable standard for minimalism?
Benjamin Gray
No we're just too autistic to communicate properly..
Isaac Robinson
Firefox is minimal, minimal enough for the bloated web. If you know something that is stable, has ublock origin and loads youtube smoothly, let me know.
Isaac Rivera
Instead of circle jerking, how about providing a better alternative. You fags are insufferable
Hudson Walker
Please read this: You're making exactly that mistake. Just listen to your own words, you clearly are saying "I don't care how bloated it is, I need it, and the web is bloated, therefore I'm defining it as minimal". That is literally your logic.
There is nothing wrong with admiting that you have 1 piece of bloated software on your machine user, you don't have to pretend you're 100% minimal at the cost of warping your definition of minimalism.
Hudson Sullivan
its the ublock origin addiction for most. I get it but there are other ways guys.
Grayson Lee
Why do you think the lack of an alternative defines FF to be minimal? That kind of thinking is the 2nd definition here
Jason Nguyen
It doesn't matter. Whether there is an alternative or not shouldn't define what is and what isn't minimal.
If there was only 1 text editor on earth and it required 70GB of ram to run would you call it minimal just because there's no alternative?
Jordan Harris
I agree with you but like stated earilier minimal is either a matter of form or function. I was just saying I really think the hang up for most is that ublock origin is very simple and they are very lazy.
Angel Brooks
I use firefox with dwm and it uses like 700mib idk why you call it bloat lmaoooo, not even using a full gigabyte of ram
Colton Murphy
*labs are always nice ArchLabs, instead of including a fuckton of random software by default, runs a welcome script to let you choose what you want
David Edwards
>and they are very lazy. hosts file is ghey
Cameron Hill
Alright then so your definition of minimalism if RAM based? Please give me a number that you want to define as the cutoff.
Jackson Gonzalez
>Make up your minds which definition you prefer, or keep roleplaying.
maybe you overthink it. Everyone needs and wants are different, don't derail this thread. I'm getting that vibe from you faggot. I know what your intentions are.
Adrian Sullivan
some programs are minimal, some programs aren't. Like the window manager i use is dwm. But my web browser is firefox (kinda bloated). But the terminal i use is st (pretty fucking minimal).
if you really really want to get minimal, just use the bare kernel nigger faggot, or don't use xorg. Stop derailing the thread. i know what you are doing, i'm not stupid nigger
Parker Bailey
No you don't know what my intentions are. Because I'd be fine with just letting it go, but then I see other people in these threads who will run other users out of town for using something they consider bloat even though it probably uses 1/10th the ram of firefox
I used to actually just take the really chill position. The 2nd definition I gave where "minimal" is just defined relative to each individuals needs and holy shit you cannot imagine how much crap people would throw at me for making that claim.
Henry Foster
welcome brother
Hudson Bennett
every single fucking program listed there is minimal. It's just firefox you are sooo fucking butthurt about. It's just firefox. That's it. holy fucking shit. Then you want me to define minimalism. Then this, then that, then i have to explain to you why this is minimal, why that's minimal, why that's bloated, why this isn't bloated etc etc etc etc etc.
Ayden Carter
How safe is Debian netinstall if I dont have access to a land line?
Ethan Sanders
checked. and yeah, the only extensions i use is ublock origin and umatrix.
Luke Allen
I was able to browse the web using netscape communicator on a computer with a WHOPPING 160MB RAM. I am fairly certain I could have only had 64MB RAM and still browsed the web just fine. Mayb even 32MB
700MB is a fuckton of RAM, you dumb fuck
Blake Cox
There are actual minimal web browsers that exist. firefox is literally one of the most bloated web browsers
Nathaniel Wright
I already know what your definition of minimal is.
When someone comes here and says "I need this" you act like an elitist fuckwad and tell them to GTFO because it's bloat and you don't give a shit whether they need it or not
But when it comes to FF you look the other way because YOU need it. You're a hypocrite. All I'm asking you for is a single definition of software minimalism. Why are you so afraid of not being 100% minimal? Because you want to roleplay as an authority here, so whatever you need is defined as minimal.
Nicholas Myers
>Instead of circle jerking, how about providing a better alternative. no, it is not our responsibility to find you an aternative. none of this changes the fact that firefox is NOT minimal
Jackson Bennett
What are some minimal web browsers that support images, are actively maintained and have an adblocker? Preferably one with a decent engine too.
Kayden Martin
Qutebrowser, Lynx, w3m.
Liam Morgan
>Firefox is minimal, minimal enough for the bloated web
>A piece of software that runs bloated standards is minimal HOlY fucknig shit it doesn't get more biased than this. This fucking says it all right here.
You all literally claim the web is bloated but then a piece of software that can run web apps is minimal? Tell me I'm fucking dreaming
I think he means "will slow/unstable internet might result in a botched install?"
Aiden Rivera
Ive always heard to use ethernet for this but I only have mobile connection due to being innawoods.
Gavin Flores
/bin /cat
Juan Taylor
god i want that big bloated white cock in my minimal white pussi daddy, yaaa!!!
Justin Hughes
Literally anyone that isn't a total fucking retard. There is quite literally no reason for considering Gentoo minimal for even a split second. It is entirely incapable of being minimal.
Connor Ross
lol faggot
Lucas Perry
0/10
Jack Ward
Build a "minimal" invironment on Gentoo and it will 100% of the time be larger than any other mainstream distribution, ubuntu arch fedora suse etc. I'm honestly curious why you think Gentoo is minimalist beyond meme tier shit like useflags.
Juan Cooper
bloatoo
Dominic Rogers
you can debloat the kernel
Dylan Cooper
Larger than ubuntu? You're trolling me so hard right now
Jeremiah Nelson
Minimal in terms of performance, not storage. Storage is cheap and plentiful
Logan James
Are you fucking retarded?
Pic related, this is just the package manager. >In terms of performance That doesn't make any sense, minimalist performance? What the fuck lmao.
So your problem is with compiling from source in general it seems
Carter Rivera
Not at all, I wouldn't use Gentoo if that was a problem.
I'm just saying that your a fucking moron for saying Gentoo is minimal because it isn't.
Xavier Wood
And running binaries that are compiled with components that you don't need or use is minimalism? But I can tell from your language that you just want to be an authority. People usually escalate to calling people retards when they want to make the gap between them and their opponent seem wider than it really is.
Levi Cruz
You aren't my opponent. You are just saying stupid shit and I'm pointing it out.
You can uninstall a bunch of shit on Arch too and it will be infinitely more minimal than Gentoo.
You honestly think Gentoo is minimal because you can choose to link a library static instead of dynamically? That makes it more bloated you fucking tool.
Gentoo has more customization and that equals waaaay more bloat. You want to use like 10 compilers at the same time and run some program without GTK support? Gentoo can do that. You want a minimal environment? LOLNOPE.
