Cs department requires calc 3 and linear algebra

>just failed my calc1 test
I'm fucked, I'll be cashiering for the rest of my life.
Wake me up from this fucking hell

DELETE THIS

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Buckle down and try harder, faggot. Go practice your Math until it sticks. Don't let Jow Forums tell you what you're not capable of, most of the fucks here have a fixed anti-growth mindset.

If you can't do calc 3 and linear algebra then you're not going to be anything more than a shit tier code monkey so just switch to IT or some other brainlet major

Try not being stupid.

This isn't that hard, we covered everything but linear algebra in high school. Linear algebra I already took at college.

Are you generalizing me? I'll have you know I graduated in the top of my class with a 7.0 GPA and honors with two purple hearts from the war against minorities and females in my CS curriculum.

SIR PLS DELET THIS

sir plez downloat the durga durga jawa microsoft software pakaj thank

Don't listen to this, you're wasting your time. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, if you suck at math you will always suck at math, putting in extra effort just to reach par is wasted time and potential. Spend that time focusing on your strengths.

I also switched to CpE, CS bored the shit out of me. Still gonna apply to CS jobs though, just wanted to learn some electrical

Nice. CSfags won't admit it but we actually blow them out when it comes to programming as well. We think in instructions/cycle and hardware portability and CStards are stuck in their circlejerk abstractions.

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Who cares? You get paid less for doing more work. Why would anybody want that? In the end its only about money

Any good CS program requires at least a Computer Architecture class as well.

Doesn't even matter though, someone who writes Java code will be a better programmer if they take and OOD class rather than fucking around with state machines in VHDL

Decades worth of research begs to differ

where do I learn linear algebra concepts? the problems are brain-dead easy but i don't know what the fuck i'm even doing

>not doing a double major and covering the full range

if you can't pass calc iii you're probably not cut out for university desu

>People wonder why so many companies hire cheap pajeets
>See this literal math sheet
>Literally almost never needed unless you work in heavy mathematical field
>90% of stuff uses engines nowadays

The disconnect of Uni and the job market is real kek

>bragging about being a code monkey

This is unironically why I webdev

ffs what you are complaining about?
you faggots only have mongo math

it's not hard and it's math you are going to use unless you just plan on becoming a pajet

Those classes are easy. As more and more programmers pour into the industry, the only ones getting jobs are the clever ones. There are so many fools in my graduating class from last year that still can't find even a simple Java job because they can't answer math/CS questions in the interview. It's survival of the fittest.

>it's easy for me which means it's easy for everyone!
Why are smart people so stupid?

How are you supposed to pass your graphics class without linear algebra lmao

not 1 module in my cs course
git fkd

I was never good at math. Think the fucking Christ back in the day my H.S only required Pre Al, Algebra I, and Geometry as credits in order to graduate. Pro Tip: Depending on career all that high level math is shit useless. So far in my 15 years of professional working all I ever done is the basics (Add/Sub/Divide/Multiply). I've honesty forgotten most of the shit I learned in most of my classes. Ironically, I passed a Business Law class with a 3.0 average despite the fact I didn't want the class anyway; school dumped me in it after the class I did want was full (Electives)

wtf i had to take statics for my software engineering bs

r u a chink? calc 2 was just boring plug and chug while memorizing identities, while calc 3 was thinking outside the box, completely breaking down the foundations of what you thought calculus was. fuck, i miss calc 3

You can become proficient but you won't become Einstein. You should do a job no one else is better than you at.

>This isn't that hard

That's the joke.

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CpE is literally the "jack of all trades, master of none" major. You don't learn enough for an electrical engineering career and CS majors have the leg up in applied programming knowledge. The major conveys a lack of direction and commitment

>You can become proficient
For most people, even that's a pipe dream.
I really hate the "you can achieve x as long as you work hard!" meme.

>CpE is literally the "jack of all trades, master of none" major

No, that's biomedical engineering.

>You don't learn enough for an electrical engineering career

They take all the core courses. The only difference is electives.

>and CS majors have the leg up in applied programming knowledge

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

Because they have legit autism, they are sevants in one field and drooling imbeciles in all others.

The x implies it's whatever you're working towards you mong. The saying doesn't mean a fish can ride a bike if it tries hard enough. If you're working towards something you suck at, and you hate it, it's your fault for not being self aware. If you're working towards something you suck at, but love then it's considered a hobby. And if you're working towards something you have skill in, then you absolutely can achieve your goals. The saying is about work ethic and dedication not magic and goodwill. Shit this board has gone down hill.

Yeah, time tables are fucking mad hard.

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>go to tacobell for a big mac
>get mad they don't focus on burgers

The disconnect of tacobell and reality is real kek

The expectation of fixed competency limits potential. Everyone has different affinities for different skills but sooner or later you will hit a ceiling that can only be lifted by practice and improvement. Only lazy brainless think the way you do

Imagine being so fat you think of food...

t. On top of "Mt. Stupid"

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PLS DELET SIR

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>can't do maths
not gonna make it

Burger lives matter #BLM

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>substative
do you mean substantive? substative isn't a word.

if you are worth a shit MIT would have knocked on your door way back when you were a kid, anything else is wageslave level,

t. wageslave

This is bullshit.

>calc 2 and 3, linear algebra
>arbitrary requirements

umm, no sweaty

>t. d'nile

>most people find calculus easy after college
Factually wrong.

most people don't even go to class

lel my cs department only requires calc 1 and discrete math. Looks like you fell for the engineering meme

Literally this

no. the ones getting the good jobs are good at communicating, socially likeable, and not very autistic. If you get a job just because of your intelligence, your likely a codemonkey that everyone else wishes would just work remotely and your never going to get promoted or work in any management position

I can't possibly understand how the brainlet OP feels like as It was literally the only subject I managed to get a 4.0 GPA on (yes I am become autism). Maybe you are more of a Cal 3 person user?

>mathematics == arbitrary
Maybe you can switch to sociology or journalism, where you can be with people of similar mental capacity.

Literally baby level.

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>the brainjocks are coming out of the woodworks
Fucking mathchads

where can I get this? Need a brush up

>remembering a handful of rules is hard

The times tables require more memorization.

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> Doesn't require linear algebra, literally the most important one
You're going to a shit school that's letting you down m8

Kek

tfw I got a 100% in calc 2 but a B in calc 1 and acedlinear algebra, calc 3 and vector analysis but got a C in discrete math. Am I an anomaly Jow Forums?

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If I take calc 3 I get a math minor. I'm in linalg right now. It's not that bad.

Calc III is easier than Calc II. Linear Algebra is easier than both of them. Differential Equations is shit. Fuck that class.

Not him, but I'd argue that discrete math is more important than linear algebra for programmers, so at least he has that. But yeah, linear algebra is still more useful than calculus.

This user is wise and we should listen to him.

This.

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves
not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed
millionaires.

-- John Steinbeck

Replace "millionaires" with "persons with potential". Just keep dreaming till the day you die like a good goy.

>CpE
CpE is to EE, like CS is to CpE

I'm good at programming and good at communicating, so I'm gunning for lead programmer. I could probably make more money in a purely managerial position at our sister company, but I have three decades of work ahead of me and I'd hate to spend all of that time doing something I don't get pleasure out of.

>>CS
>1st year
Bullshit java/OO coding class
Bullshit data structures class
Piss easy calculus classes
Piss easy matrix algebra class
[If you're lucky] physics I&II for non-science majors

>2nd year
Watered down "computer architecture" class
Pompous software engineering class
Pathetic discrete "math" class
Watered down "probability" class
Crash course on formal languages and automata

>3rd year
Pathetic algorithms course
Watered down computability and complexity theory course
Laughable networks course
Laughable database course
Crash course on various programming languages

>4th year
Laughable computer security course
[If you're lucky] an Operating Systems class
[If you're lucky] a Compilers class
Horseshit AI with trivial machine learning
5-10 student team Capstone with one dude doing all the work
and all the bullshit easy electives you want

>>CE/ECE/EE
>1st year
C++/C Coding class
C++/C Data Structures and Algorithm
Easy vector calculus
Piss easy matrix algebra class
Ordinary Differential Equations
Physics I&II
Chem I&II

>2nd year
PDEs, Complex Variables, or Advanced Engineering Mathematics [which is half of each]
Probability and Random Processes
Numerical Analysis
Signal and System Analysis
Circuits
Physics III
Digital Logic
An actual Computer Architecture class

>3rd year
Electronics I&II
Communication Systems
Digital Signal Processing
[if CE or ECE] Discrete Math with Coding and Information Theory
[if EE or ECE] Control Theory
[if EE] Electromagnetics
[if CE] Operation Systems
[if CE] Digital System Design
[if CE] Embedded Systems

>4th year
Capstone
[if you're unlucky] Ethics
>Electives [for CE]:
Compilers
Computer Vision
Computer Graphics
VLSI Design
Networks
Crypto
Reverse Engineering
Convex Optimization
Distributed Computing
>Electives [for EE]:
Analog Electronics
Power Electronics
RF/Microwave Engineering
Antennas
Radar Engineering
Power Systems
Electric Machinery
Semiconductor Device Physics
Photonics/Optics
Wireless Communications
Mechtronics

No electrical machines? No thermodynamics? No electromagnetism? Only one circuits class? Seems like a shitty american EE/CE degree

>No electrical machines
Never seen an university require that
>No thermodynamics
Only one lecture of StatMech is relevant for EE
>No electromagnetism
It's there but not every school requires it
>Only one circuits class
You don't need to spend 2 semesters on it. Don't know why so many schools waste time dragging it out.

Not a CS major but my school only requires calc 1, sets and logic, and discrete mathematics.

I'm doing Physics and only have to do Calc 1-4/Linear Algebra 1, Diff. Eq. 1. CS used to be essentially a Math degre but those days are no longer.

th year
>[if you're unlucky] Ethics

me right now AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

/thread
OP is looking for software engineering

>assembly course is mandatory for major
>take it
>starts off simple enough
>have to run Linux in a VM despite never using it before
>fair enough, bound to happen sooner or later I suppose
>move values over registers and operate them
>nothing too crazy
>like a month into it get forced to start using C out of nowhere because lol that's what the textbook uses
>textbook never fucking explains how to link these files and leaves you to guess
>tough shit because C isn't actually part of any programming course in the entire study plan either so you better KNOW how to use it beforehand or you're fucked
>get a project about creating a calculator in a circuitry-simulating software
>the actual part related to fucking assembly is about 10% of the job
>get grouped up with a dude that carries everyone in the team since he's really good on fuckin anything related to computers
>is also unbelievably arrogant and unhelpful and responds to any inquiry by mocking you for not knowing the answer already
>turn in project, which was only the first of two
>second project consists on programming a "device" and a device driver that interact with the kernel to apply matricial transformations to image files
>people on VMs be fucked since "physical" devices are emulated and the whole process becomes more convoluted than usual
>have to somehow use third party drawing APIs like OpenGL or the like to display all this shit
>don't know how to use any of that? don't care, not the teacher's problem
>skillful dude that worked on calculator bails on group since everyone but him was next to useless last time
>can't blame him 2bh in all honesty
>stuck alone having to work on this shit that once again makes a huge hodgepodge of subjects unrelated to assembly
Fucking dicks expect everyone to be some kind of miracle worker that has to make it all happen.
Fuck this major, fuck all of this. I hate programming, I hate math. The only reason I got into it is because I have no other interests.

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>tfw doing EE and couldn't do my basic electronics classes until my 5th year cause I had to take Calc II four times in a row before I passed, failing with a D+ 3 times in a row then getting a B
I can integrate and test for convergence like it's breathing now though

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>C is discrete
How on earth is that even possible

>>tough shit because C isn't actually part of any programming course in the entire study plan either so you better KNOW how to use it beforehand or you're fucked

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>tfw school uses Epp for discrete math

I didn't have to start using C until assembly language. I knew Java before though so it was easy to understand.

>He doesn't know EE is all functional analysis

well good then since I've got two whole years of doing just that under me belt now
What kind of math is it? Am doing Calc III right now and differentials next semester

>piss away 9 years on an education to make less than tradesman make at my age
college "education", not even once.

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Don't listen to people on this retarded site. Most of them will probably wind up killing themselves (hopefully) within the next 3 years anyway, user. I am in the same boat as you and it comes down to two things, and professors agree with me on this.
1. It is a brain exercise, it helps you think critically, bottom line. 2. It makes more money, especially if remedial classes are needed. College is a money maker, that is why sometimes universities make books with big publishers tailored just for that school. Just keep going, and get the help you need. A doctor is still a doctor, even if he wasn't a straight A student...

Historically PhDs were really only meant for those going into academia. You'd end up in academic tenure. PhDs largely out# tenure positions nowadays. I read there's around 100,000 Phds given annually, and that one professor will train 40+ PhDs over his career. So 40:1 ratio.

Try government r&d. They're black and white at the hiring process, and a PhD probably means more to government than private r&d. Private r&d only want those with experience in the industry, so your bachelors/masters that wageslaved for 5-10 years.

Wtf op passed AP calc 1& 2 in highschool with 4's it ain't that hard man