>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best for gaming and not a massive overpriced disappointment like the 9700k >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
never before have I seen a motherboard that simply has "everything"
Ryder Thomas
>not shilling the new $580 i9 or the i5 which costs as much as an R7 in the OP SHILL
It even has 12x 4pin fan headers. Neat.
Jaxson Kelly
Motherboard manufacturers are having trouble keeping up with B450 demand in China. And they wasted too much time making Intel boards which they can't even sell.
B450 Gaming Plus is the same as the Tomahawk except that it looks retarded gaymerfaggy.
Samuel Thomas
Why does two of the RAM slots have a small bracket over them?
Landon Hughes
It really has everything 6 channel ram, a proper vrm heatsink, 6pin power just for the chipset, a fan just for the chipset, power supply sli for double the power, and my favorite feature is the patented insurance fraud feature previously known as "overclocking" where it bursts into flames burning your house down and you get free money from the insurance company.
Thomas Brown
someone redpill me on 2700x motherboards, which ones should I be looking for
Elijah Ramirez
Friendly reminder that your build is worthless if it doesn't have INTEL CPU and NVIDIA GPU
Luis Robinson
>$580 i9 its $1500 in yurope
Justin Cook
I assume it's a Dimm.2 slot and not a ram slot. Basically an Asus thing for a daoughtercard for m.2 drives.
I'm more intrigued by the dual 24 pins or the shee number of additional CPU power pins. My motherboard came with an extra 6 pin pcie input to handle multiple GPUs fine but this is another level. Not too many cases that can even hold 2 PSUs.
can someone explain to me all those fucking eps connectors? surely its not what i think it is, and the 24-pins as well wtf?
Nicholas Baker
I figured it out, 60Hz up to 75Hz monitor means that you can get 75Hz, but not at max resolution, so it's basically just a 60Hz.
Josiah Ross
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Aiden Morgan
do you ever need to replace thermal paste on your CPU? been like 5 years now
Nathan Clark
this but unironically
Lucas Brooks
based
Nolan Myers
Anyone recommend a B450 microATX board for me? Looking for something for gamedev.
Charles Hall
Yes if you touch and move it. Thermal paste doesn't lose it's conductivity, it does become dry though, so if you bump the radiator and move it it will be enough to make the good contact into a bad one. Another way is just look at the temps, if they get bad then replace the paste, assuming all other factors are the same.
Benjamin Jackson
is used 1070 a good idea, or it would be used for mining like 99%
Fuck, so with the GPU I bought, I also bought a microSD card and an AUX cable. Those two things will be here today, but the actual GPU shipped out from Indiana, so it won't get here until Friday. Slightly bummed, but at least I have something to look forward to this weekend. I have to work Saturday anyways, but I'm sure I will install the card on Friday as soon as I get home.
>text is aligned the wrong way in a vertical mount GPU 1 billion dollars in R&D money down the drain
Adrian Taylor
It is now :^) I'll make sure I post a pic-by-pic of the install just for you user
Anthony King
You have shitty cable. I realized like 2 weeks ago that my monitor was 75hz but my shitty hdmi couldn't handle it. Now that I changed it it's 75hz. Imagine 3 years on 60hz when all this time I had 75hz. I was so fucking mad then I realized most games are locked to 60fps anyway lol.
William Adams
thoughts on my build? >CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 4core (3,9GHz) >ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS >8GB DDR4-3000MHz CL16 Patriot Viper, kit 2x4GB >FSP/Fortron HYPER S 500, >85%, 500W >SSD 500GB Samsung 860 EVO SATA III >my old shitty PC case >ASUS vs197de (my old monitor)
Eli Myers
How do you test "true" fps? I am a brainlet when it comes to screen, better ask than stay dumb I guess.
I'm not sure what you mean? I just decided to google my monitor because one of my friends asked me and I realized it's 75hz, then researched a bit why I can't go any higher than 60hz in settings and found out it might be because of my cable changed it and 75hz setting just appeared.
Jaxson Lopez
the 3000mhz ram seems like a bit of an overkill for that rather budget-y system but it has great upgrade potentail
Kevin Reed
Are you sure it's 75? Lots of screens accept a 75hz signal, but drops 15 of the frames.
i honestly dont know what are you talking about. are you implying that 500W is too much? yeah i might upgrade in the future, also i heard that you should have fast ram with APU
Ayden Cooper
I tried vsync with fraps and it shows 75fps in games with unlocked frames also it feels noticeably smoother
Christopher Edwards
The 2400g won't work with the B350 without a BIOS upgrade. Even if you have the required older CPU to preform this, just get the B450.
You can get real mechanical keyboards on Amazon for 30-25 bucks.
RedDragon or Dierya has some with Blue or Brown switches. There's a ton of them.
They're pretty good value for the price.
Easton Miller
Read the whole sentence
Jordan Parker
If it feels smoother it might be 75, but fraps inst going to show you if it's 60 or 75, since the pc is still pumping 75 frames to the screen and the screen is accepting them, then just dropping them instead of showing them
Christopher Mitchell
Yeah that's the vsync part you dummy, if the screen was dropping 15 frames then vsync would lock your fps to 60. Do you even know how vsync works?
Josiah Clark
Why th fuck would you care about the color of components you can't even see? This is even worse that rgbt shit.
I love this design choice, it's just a shame is a fucking overpriced gimmick. OH WELL GUESS I'LL JUST KEEP WAITIN AINT IT
Owen Baker
Is this bait? Must be.
Nathan Anderson
>Do you even know how vsync works You clearly don't.
Wyatt Allen
Why shouldn't I get the intel Hades Canyon NUC as daily driver? I don't do much besides the occasional game (BF3 and Asetto Corsa) and 2D CAD. Running into two 1980x1200 screens, gonna upgrade to a single 4k one probably. Also how did Apple not put this thing in their patented aluminium box and market it as the new mac mini?
Lincoln Hughes
>VSync aims to match the graphics processor’s frames with the refresh rate of the monitor to fix any syncing issues hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder what that means
Blake Davis
hey man, would you mind adding the hardware used on the systems?
William Cook
You could literally get the r5 2600 on newegg for 160 which is a ridiculous steal.
i think it might actually work, but its risky since you dont know if the motherboard will have updated bios or not. ill ask in the shop where im buying all of this and i hope they will be able to tell me
but if ill have to go for the b450, do i have to check all compability again, or it will be compatible (if all the components were compatibile with b350 plus)?
Thomas Rogers
do you need it?
Nathan Anderson
Get 3000 CL15 or 3200 CL16 RAM. Or 2800 CL16 @ 1.2v, 2666 CL15 @ 1.2v, and manually OC Even with a heavy overclock, you won't use more than 150W. Even if you plan to add a dGPU later, 450W is more than enough extra for that.
>Get 3000 CL15 why? whats the difference between 3000 15 and 3000 16 and why is 15 better for me?
Leo Kelly
Would a french CPU work in my PC if I bought my MB, RAM and all the other parts here in the UK?
Luke Powell
Why get 6c/12 for $160 when you can get 8c/16t for $580? Only 3.5x as much.
>what's the difference 7%. About 4-5% higher fps for a few bux.
Is your PSU baguette compatible?
Mason Jones
Literally no difference but for some reason 3000 15 tends to be cheaper.
Samuel King
>spending money is saving money Stop thinking like this.
Adam Cook
Ok, I'll type this very slowly for you. Lots of monitors accept a 75Hz signal. Meaning that from the GPUs perspective, assuming you are running at 75Hz, it looks like the screen is a 75Hz screen. The screen, after accepting the frame, sending it's vsync signal back, all of the communication with the GPU, then just ignores every 5th frame. It still only renders at 60Hz.
Justin Scott
Damn you're a dumbo
Tyler Ward
It makes no fucking sense to buy low-rated ATX PSUs, they're not even much cheaper (often not cheaper at all), and if you ever add more components they'll be operating outside their efficiency peak.
Unless you're building some SFF low-wattage portable computer, there's no reason to buy a PSU rated at less than 500W.
Luis Flores
>all the recommended CPUs are AMD Why? Is this just a fucking shill thread that is in a state of constantly being reposted by the same fag?
Gabriel Kelly
I was looking at some pre built PCs, all for gaming, some with 1080s in them, so relatively high end, yet all of them had
Jason Nguyen
well maybe because I literally cant buy any intel cpus unless I buy used.
Cameron Price
The B450 is a direct upgrade from the 350. All 350s were re-released as 450, including your Prime
Joshua Hill
And why is that?
Julian King
>or are prebuilt PCs ripping of retards who don't know to look at ram speeds? Yes. Stop wasting your time looking at prebuilts.
Landon Ross
price to power ratio, dipshit.
Ethan King
They're all out of stock or literally don't exist (9th gen) and fuck importing and paying twice as much
>abloobloo i'm poor They're not the best performing then, they're the best value, which should be stated.
So you have a very different situation, since you're a foreigner.
>cheaper >great performance >but less performance than intel
I'm not shilling for either brand, but it's annoying to read when it's obviously just being recommended to save money but it's not being said.
Asher Fisher
Because intel is overpriced, overrated shit
Mason Carter
The primary goal of any consumer is to save money, retard.
Colton Butler
that's your goal, neet poorfag, some people just want the best
Joshua Harris
>less performance than intel lol
Cooper Parker
>be me >R5 2600 cpu >friend gives me a gtx 780 from a SLI he had, card is working perfect >try it n my build, no display >put old Quadro 600 my cat was using for litterbox and it works perfect >run speecy, then device manager, gtx 780 not recognized >find in the internet people havin the same issues with ryzen 2nd gen and gtx 780/titan
Not sure who is to blame here, gonna test the card in a intlel core quad
Aaron Thomas
No, the primary goal is to get the best performance. If you want to recommend Ryzen at X price point, that's fine. Otherwise, stop being a fucking mongoloid.
Lucas Baker
You're being silly
Oliver Murphy
>>but less performance than intel >"Lol dude pay 150 more for 10% performance increase"
>he paired amd cpu with nvidia gpu Lol enjoy your gimped gpu
Andrew Brooks
>lol le frog meme 10% isn't more Kill yourself.
Alexander Miller
Of course not you're not shilling, master! You show them goy they better be loyal and shit if they want true performance! >price doesn't matter You let the goyim know.
