>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >Pentium - Bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G/R5 2400G - Only if you aren't buying a GPU >i5 8400 - Best value for gaming (if you're from EU, wait) >R5 2600/X - Good multithreaded work use CPUs. Terrible for gaming unless you overpay for good cooler/b-die ram/mobo >i5 9600k/i7 9700k/i9 9900k - Best high end gaming >New intel i9's - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >Consider RTX 2000 gpus only if 1080Ti is not enough for you >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans UNLESS they are much cheaper 1080p >1060 6Gb/RX 580 8Gb are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >1070Ti/1080 (60-75+ fps) >GTX 1080Ti/RTX 2080 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >2080Ti OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>intel is back in the OP did the amd shills leave?
Jacob Hughes
>no 8700k
AMD shill in disguise. They can now use the muh paid benchmark muh overprice argument even though the 8700k still BTFO anything Ryzen has to offer in gaming.
>i want it to look nice. Hide it under a table, where it should be, out of sight.
Luis Cox
>RBG fans >RGB RAM covers >RGB keyboard >RGB mouse >RGB strips behind monitor >electrical tape over the blue lights hows that sound? bonus points if you make the lights all react to the bass from whatever music you listen to.
Charles Carter
No real bench mark yet and I doubt 2 more core and 4 less threads can justify the price increase
Jonathan Perry
He usually disappears during this time which is midnight/early morning in india.
Samuel Smith
Meant to quote
Jayden Wilson
Alright bros I have memtest report. 1st report there was no errors 2nd report there were errors. Just testing it again and I have 16 errors now.
>posting that the best performance/price is AMD across the board is shilling >including a solid Intel cpu choice for gaming is shilling >not shilling for the overpriced and under-supplied brand is shilling for their competitors lmaoing at how frothing mad the incels got over reading the unbiased truth
>grouping the 8400 with the shitty APU that constantly freeze during boot and crashes in games >lies about the 8700k being only good for 1080p while its clearly the best at any resolution >the 2700x being beaten by the 8400 is the best HIGHEND gaming >shills the nonexistent Ryzen 3
The AMD shilling was getting insufferable.
Adam Wilson
Gotta love how faggots were shilling 2core i3s and Pentiums, and now they can't even run a number of games released this year. Oh look who it is >Pentium - Bare minimum gaming Kill yourself, shill.
bad memory of faulty memory OC is the #1 cause of bluescreens.
Jacob Gray
what are the implications of a cpu being 100% loaded? (e.g. 8400 running GTAV)
Connor Martinez
If you hits your targeted framrate and has no stutters then it's nothing. If you drop below targeted framerate and has lots of stutters then its a bottleneck.
Disclaimer: More cores wont help you either since GTA V is heavily single threaded.
Brody Lewis
>lying on the internet
Ian Morris
Pentium is half the price of 2200G and has similar gaming performance, actually.
Anthony Lewis
I had the same problem with my 7400 and found out it's the Asus crap that comes with the motherboard and Geforce experience that caused it. Removed all asus crapwares and turn off instant recording in shadowplay keeps my CPU utilization around 60%.
I can afford two 1070s right now. If I could I would buy you one, user.
Andrew Bailey
I was going to buy one off Amazon for $399. I knew it wouldn't last long.
Andrew Foster
>The AMD shilling was getting insufferable. >getting heh
Andrew Roberts
>vega64 is nearly $900CAD and nearly $1000CAD for powercolor or sapphire just fuck my shit up
Caleb Thompson
>he fell for the just wait™ meme
Aiden Gomez
interesting, I'm anticipating Red Dead 2 will come to PC. Would an 8400 handle that without stuttering? I'd probably just aim for 60fps Another that comes to mind will be Cyberpunk
Cameron Nelson
he was oviously talking about the 2700x and the apu not booting tho. the [email protected] has very similar performances to the [email protected].
may i recommend team dark pro 8x2gb cl14-3200 it's pretty cheap for guaranteed b-die and it looks slick
Nathan Smith
>6 months m8 it's going to be 2 years Enterprise is 1 year
Logan Edwards
What an objectively wrong statement. I'm sure you'll cherry pick the few games where that's true, but there's also games which won't even manage 30fps on a fucking Pentium.
Why would you get an 8400 instead of 2600/X that's better and cheaper? The 8400 bottlenecks even a 1060 or 1070 at 1080p in some games. Even some old games like Witcher 3, not just new ones. It's plainly a weak CPU compared to having one with proper SMT.
Built all my stuff summer 2015, only replaced an older psu which literally blew up.
I'm looking at getting a pair of 1080p 144hz monitors as a direct upgrade. So first, what should I upgrade my graphics card to? Second, is there any argument for looking at a larger display setup instead?
Also, as a sidenote, I can upgrade my CPU for dirt cheap as long as it's Intel. I've been reading that my setup shouldn't bottleneck anything if I just upgrade the graphics card alone, but I'd rather just upgrade all at once.
Elijah Foster
what are you even talking about, you don't need a cooler for a 2600
This. 7nm is not even near. Also I know it sounds good on paper but every amd release is overhyped and leads to a disappointment.
Blake Scott
>benchmarks rigs aren't always overbuilt to prevent bottlenecking Holy fuck, the mental gymnastics of the unpaid intel shill
Logan Bell
You were lied to. Especially when it comes to cooler. 8400 was good compared to the 1600/X when it was only $165. Now it's $200, even more in some countries, and the Ryzen 2000 series has been out for months now.
Yes. That means nothing is left over for background processes and yet it's still dipping to under 60fps at times. Stop pretending to be retarded to try and fool others. He's going to keep posting it anyway and not acknowledge that using all 6 threads 100% and not managing over 60fps on a midrange GPU is bad.
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Josiah Watson
I wouldnt call that intel build being 'overbuilt'.
Zachary Sanchez
>$200 lmao more like 320
Brandon Hughes
what good having idle cores when your fps is still lower?
It says in that picture that his build didn't use the B-die ram because he "did not need it" which in other words means he made the Intel build cheaper than the benchmark on purpose, yet left the AMD untouched.
it wasn't on mine but it works pretty simply on ddr4-3200 because of being bdie, it can handle lots of tighter timings
you can also try using the ryzen dram calculator for guaranteed good settings once you have your OS set up with those ddr4-2133 low stock settings
Gabriel Thompson
Fuck. I'm running it again
Jaxson Green
Because you're building a PC, not a console. You run more than just the video game. Do you close your browser when you play games? Most people don't.
>Intel's HT is broken and shitty Yes we know.
Don't know what this is supposed to prove except that you're replying to 2-3 different people there but are stupid enough to think they're the same person.
Xavier Lopez
>people actually defending the 8400 absolute state of Jow Forums
Any mouse recommendation ? I've been running a zowie ec1-a for 3+ years (so before benq) and i'm getting tired of the scroll wheel not working properly sometimes. I read it was fixed on the EC1-A(2) version (post benq merging) anyone can confirm ?
If not then what would you recommend to someone who is looking for a mouse with the same shape (MIE 2.0/3.0 like), not boomer shit as in SS/Razer. I like zowie mice and I'm not very fond of logitech from past experience.
Also, any recommendation on a mousepad that doesn't get filled with dust as quickly as the Qck+ ? Thx.
>if we shill damage control by throwing out every statement then we can never be wrong, because if even one of those statements is true then we win, but if we have conflicting and wrong statements then it's like "lol just different people" The point is you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and your opinion on hardware, bechmark and performance changes to suit a narrative. Rather than having an objective search for the truth, you decide on it first and then look for anything that supports it, sometimes going back on what you decided on in the first place multiple times.
Kayden Reed
>NCS >good music
Ethan Phillips
> a man of no taste whatsoever > judging the music instead of the results Spoken like a true incelshill.
Anthony Evans
You can't hold me accountable for what one idiot said who was wrong, you fucking moron. That doesn't make you right, just because one thing someone else said is wrong. You're wrong all the fucking time and such an obviously desperate, slimy shill with your nonsensable collages. You're like Kavanaugh with his fucking calendar, crying non stop.
Not even a good comparison. You should be using PBO and BCLK OC with X CPUs.
>Incels cant accept that more and more users are switching to AMD for a variety of reasons >need to constantly screech and lash out as posters here ask each other questions about and recommendations for AMD products But no, it must all be paid shilling.
tbf Dirt always worked quite well with Ryzen. So is TR.
Leo Sanders
i should mention i have an asus crosshair x370, so the bios comes preloaded with some samsung b-oriented timing presets for memory, and those worked flawlessly on the first try
but b-die is always good
Jaxon Garcia
>Wanted a 2nd monitor for misc stuff >Went out and bought a Dell 27" IPS 1080p panel because it was on sale for $140 >Think nothing of it and only use it for minor shit, using my 32" 1440p panel as primary >Primary panel starts to shit the bed so I swap out >Come to find that the 2nd monitor I bought is IPS, 75HZ, and Freesync. None of which was advertised on the site or price tag next to the monitor at the store
Fuck yea. I thought I was going to have to shell out for a freesync panel. I have a GTX980Ti right now, but I'm thinking of getting a Vega 64 very soon.
Wyatt Richardson
Ok so I put my ram at normal clock speed 1933 and I'm not getting errors.
Can ram actually be causing my game to crash? If so why? I bought it and I was told it would work at 3200Mhz. Why is it crashing at that point?
>You can't hold me accountable for what one idiot said who was wrong, you fucking moron. >prove every single lie to be false against dozen of shills Yeah, unlike some people I don't get payed for this. >You're wrong all the fucking time and such an obviously desperate You made a claim, prove it. >slimy shill refer to >You should be using PBO and BCLK OC with X CPUs. Correct, you should also have a mother that has votage offset at the bare minimum if you plan to PBO overclock and a clock gen and BLCK OC if you want to take it further.
David Reyes
cringe
Adrian Smith
ddr stands for double data rate 1933 base rate is equivalent to a ddr4-3866 rating you're overclocking your memory by a huge margin and either your board or your memory or your cpu can't handle it
Henry Gutierrez
That's what happens when you don't buy b-die with ryzen. We have warned you multiple times
Isaac Perez
>people like this go for AMD >people like this use windows 10 >people like this have zero idea about the hardware they are using
