>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best for gaming and not a massive overpriced disappointment like the 9700k >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Building a low end streaming pc for my buddy who plays fortnite. Budgets about 800, opinions?
Christopher Moore
>Freesync >StoreMI >Vega >5 AMD CPUs Why not change the title to /amdbg/?
Jaxon Collins
>took almost 2 hours to post the thread
I think this war is taking its toll on AMDpoors and Incels alike.
Oliver Diaz
The op is retarded. Intel processors are better for gaming, he only accounts for price/ performance. On that note i wouldnt personally but an intel cpu due to many reasons including the differential being fairly minimal in most games as well as the plethora of security issues
Brandon Torres
It's misleading considering that there is an Intel launch this week and not even a blip on the OP
Camden Adams
You cant into liquid cooler?
Angel Bennett
I agree there should be news but lets be real; the dodged benchmarks and the9900k cost is bullshit. Seriously the cpu is double the cost of a 2700/x. Not saying its not the best gaming cpu though, even if its marginal
Jack Campbell
>shill for AMD in one post >reply to myself shilling for intel in the next one
>he only accounts for price/ performance isn't that what everyone is after? well 99% of the people here can't/don't want to spend 2.5k+ on a gaming pc for it to be UN-utlised 90% of the time.
Brody Baker
>intel 8c16t is $600 >amd 8c16t is $280 >performance difference is ~15% on 1080p >performance difference is ~5% on 1440p >price difference is nearly 200% difference.
Adrian Ross
It's time to take a step back and reflect on your life
Elijah Reyes
fyi: the 8700 is a huge turd. Without deliding and at least a 3 fan AIO this thing will constantly overheat and thermal throttle even during gaymen. I don't even know what the point of the 8700K is for anymore, you'd need a water refrigent unit to cool it enough to run past 4.7GHz.
t. salty i7 8700 owner who gets 80C+ at 4.4GHz with a high end water cooler
So lets say nothing in my PC cant fall out no matter what and I have the most protective case in it, if I were to get an ssd would I basically be able to throw my computer across the room and nothing would be damaged?
Actually no, it shouldbt just be price to performance, althoufh thats the metric i use for most purchases. Additionally the entire op is gaming centric, no mention of workloads that intel and to some degree nvidia work better in. I wish the op was not just gaming
Bro this is why i never saw the point in a lot of the aftermarket coolers people buy for intel unless they plan on delidding
I get theres a mass trolling going on in all these threads but i even said i dont buy intel in my post
Cameron Cook
By that logic we should all buy iPhones, apple computers, and designer clothes/shoes.
Easton Richardson
Can you dumb nigger fags stop bitching and arguing about which brand Do You Love More and who sucks the most Cock of the other brand and just fucking give me your opinion on this build
yea but most people build pc's to game, i do agree there should be a wider range but logicalincrements is my go-to place for part speccing.
Michael Bell
6-9 months
Thomas Brooks
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Isaac Johnson
Get an i3
Asher Rivera
thats nothing that unusual without delidding. you didnt win the lottery but it should still work about right. With that said you sure your AIO is working properly?
Liam Parker
breddy gud
>less cores >dogshit stock cooler
William Hall
yeah it's fine, I don't like the case or keyboard much but that's a personal thing
Camden Phillips
How is an i3 capable of streaming
Nathaniel Cox
>my CPU is better because it needs a fatass cooler to keep it from melting
Levi Diaz
stream these nuts kid.
Hudson Myers
Educate them first and I'll consider it
Ayden Reyes
Yup, got an H150i and made sure no leaks and even used mx4 thermal paste. Fans spin at max when under load still this piece of shit i7 overheats somehow.
That's what he's talking about genius. Even high end water coolers won't get you 5GHz on i7s.
This is in aud. Panel is a samsung va type so failry decent. This is aud so like $250 usd but obviously conversions arent 1:1 with these sort of things
Colton Wright
Even high end water coolers won't run an AMD past its stock clock.
Eli Anderson
Im not sure how youd troubleshoot this but have you ruled out failing pump?
Andrew Wilson
Yup, checked everything m8, I've considered deliding but the risk seems to outweigh the reward desu. 5% increase in performance risking permanent damage to the cpu is a bif doozy.
Isaiah Hall
Hey man, intel aren't the ones selling you a fucking refrigerator with their CPU.
Dylan Nguyen
i was looking at this too m8, either this or the one on pccg.
>"Okay, Intel isn't using LN2 (liquid nitrogen), but that's a massive refrigerated liquid cooling loop clearly designed to take the CPU below ambient, probably close to the freezing temperature range. (I've read elsewhere that it can go as low as 4C.) The insulation around the tubing is necessary to prevent condensation when running such temperatures. Tom's Hardware has images showing the specific model is the Hailea HC-1000B, with a 1HP motor that chills the refrigerant and allows dissipating up to 1000W of power. Based on my experience with the existing Core i9 parts, that's exactly what you'll need to do to cope with a 28-core Skylake-X chip running at 5GHz."
>don't have a monitor >plan on getting an Nvidia GPU You're in for a treat. You should look at what Gsync monitors cost first and how shitty they are.
I'd just guy an RX570/580 while they're cheap. There's been RX570 as low as $150. The new ones likely won't be as good performance for the dollar, even if they're slightly better performance.
lmao Navi almost surely won't come this year.
Interesting test. 2600 isn't overclocked but still outperforms in almost every test. At this point, with how expensive the 8400 is, you can get the 2600X for the same price.
>hur dur prices don't matter when people are building a PC without a certain budget You can't actually be this retarded.
Seriously, what's with all these blatant lies lately since the 9000 series paper launch? We have a few anons running their 2700X with a BCLK OC at over 4.5GHz on cheap air coolers. At least one of them, IIRC, runs theirs on the stock cooler even though he was probably lucky with binning and being able to undervolt, but that's not unheard of elsewhere.
You forgot to add that multithreaded performance of the $600 9900k is roughly the same as the $280 2700X, despite the 15% higher single thread performance. HT is garbage and SMT is great. That's really the biggest joke here.
I'm sure you were told that before buying it. Should have gotten a 2600X/2700X.
The most likely issue to happen there is your thermal paste between the CPU cooler and IHS would likely break the coherency of the bond and not conduct heat as well.
Lucas Martin
Thank you kindly
Kayden Perry
>allows dissipating up to 1000W of power That's insane, how was this apple to cool 28 fucking intel housefires when their 18 cores infernos already get close to that.
I personally didn't want AMD because bulldozer left a bad taste in my mouth. If zen 2 is as good as people say it will be I'm switching to that else I'm hunkering down until intel unfucks itself from this eternal hell they've put themselves in.
>tfw 10nm intel will be worse than 14nm please don't fuck this up AMD
If an AMD shill tells you that it's 5% behind, you know it has to be at least 30%
Caleb Martinez
Right but this isn't from AMD though. Now answer my question, why is a 4GHz AMD processor almost on par with a 5GHz intel processor in real world performance?
Noah Harris
>better counter his credible benchmark with a deceptive benchmark
Budget is $1,000 USD. Will be used mostly for photo editing, some video editing. Won't be gaming much but would like the option to play some games from time to time without issue.
No clue where to even start.
Henry Powell
Why is AMD 30% slower than intel in single core performance?
Evan Hernandez
1080p or 1440p makes no difference for me. i sit a fair way back from my monitor.
Oliver Williams
>232 single perf at 3.7GHz >225 single per at 5.1GHz Yeah man, this is super credible.
Daniel Baker
Ipc
Grayson Green
>GHz is the only thing affecting performance
Ethan Cruz
That doesn't make any sense, wasn't zen supposed to match haswell IPC? How did it go past coffee lake IPC?
Man what's the point of intel anymore? You spend 2-4X more on a processor that gets you 10% more fps in some games and 5% more fps on most. Wouldn't it be better to spend that money on a better GPU instead?
It was just a short benchmarking run. So you had a sub-ambient reservoir of water to start with. The CPU itself may have drawn more around 1300W.
On top of that, it's an ultra binned chip, and being cooler tends to let you squeeze out a bit higher frequency. For example with Polaris, each 10 degrees Celsius cooler that you make it tends to let you clock it above 5Mhz higher without touching the voltage. So 20C cooler than ambient should get you around 10MHz extra. And that's coming from the 1400MHz starting range instead of starting at over 4GHz. It might be that 10C lower on that Xeon part gets you more like 20-25Mhz more.
How are you this stupid to think you can make up that much difference with just things like board and memory frequency? That's clearly misreporting.
The point is giving people something to falseflag and shitpost about. No one's actually *buying* them except clueless idiots.
Why'd you filter out overclocked 2700X results but you show overclocked 8700k ones? 2700X gets over 188 score on Cinebench st with overclocks like the results you're showing there. 232 is not even 19% higher, not 30%, you brainless shill. My 15%, off the top of my head, was close. And you'll see the multithreaded is largely the same, just like how the 2600X gets a HIGHER multithreaded score than the 8700k despite vastly lower clock speeds. There's >190 2700X 1t results out there, though I can't find them. It gets real close to 15%. Christ. How does one shitposting troll user get BTFO as many times per hour as you do? How do you sit in your chair with your ass gaping open so tremoundously with how much you're repeatedly RAPED? Do you just swallow the whole entire seat up with your asshole?
fractal design nano s or phanteks enthoo evolv itx?
Julian Bell
I have the phanteks enthoo pro tg, love it
Grayson Nguyen
do you think it's too big?
Anthony Miller
232/177 is 31%
I even rounded it down out of pity.
Jeremiah Jones
>Why'd you filter out overclocked 2700X results but you show overclocked 8700k ones?
Ryan Rogers
>I'd just guy an RX570/580 while they're cheap. There's been RX570 as low as $150. The new ones likely won't be as good performance for the dollar, even if they're slightly better performance. Not strong enough, im looking to get into VR so im looking for 1070 or better. Also in Mexico a 1060 is cheaper than a 570 for whatever reason.
Nathaniel Thomas
Here's an overclocked cinebench run with an overclocked 2700.
It doesn't even get 177.
Robert Fisher
Wouldn't get it unless you already have a 144hz Gsync monitor. Just spending extra money for nothing.
eh I prefer mITX which actually make better use of the form factor in their designs instead of them being a few inches shorter of a tower. Phanteks Evolv Shift or something like that.
Oh so you're so much of an unbelievable shitposting shill that you will only compare a stock 2700X to the overclocked 8700k. 188 score isn't even the highest air OC result on a 2700X, either. I've seen some above 190. Thanks for showing your true colors, if it wasn't clear enough already.
i had the phanteks enthoo evolv matx before selling my old pc (made big bux because it had a nice case) and it was too big desu, almost like a atx sized case.
Isaac Morgan
From what I've heard, in Mexico it's cheaper to import parts from the US and pay import duties/tax. Could be wrong though.
Anyway you were asking about "new cards" and the only thing new coming this year appears to be another Polaris refresh on 12nm this time.
>that OC result doesn't count. >only my underclocked (4.3GHz instead of 4.35Ghz stock) result counts!!! Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules. How are you not banned?
Jaxson Martin
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that the Ryzen can do 188?
Of course not.
Leo Flores
>Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules. How are you not banned? mods = fags without exception
Aaron Campbell
something for the clueless to buy.
Bentley Morales
Still AMD is too expensive.
>Cheapest GTX 1060 6GB Single fan $5,500 pesos, 5800 for the Gigabyte dual fan and 5900 for the Zotac dual fan. >Cheapest RX 570 $5300 pesos.
Jason Phillips
You can compensate for a shit GPU by lowering the graphic settings.
You can't compensate for a shit CPU.
Mason Ward
Why would anyone buy a ryzen 7 for gaming when the 6 core ryzen 5 is literally as much as any games could need? They are the same cores, and the 2600 is like half the price.
Lucas Bailey
Hell it even makes more sense to buy a RX 580 at 6000 pesos than a 570.
Christian Brown
>lowering the graphic settings That actually makes intel processors perform significantly worse. What are you smoking?
