/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing.
>Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.
>For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

CPU
>i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming
>R5 2400G/R5 2600/x- Consider IF on sale
>i5 8400 - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>Wait for i7 9900k and 9700k - Surely the best for gaming at any resolution
>i7 8700k - Currently best high-end gaming at any resolution/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>RTX 2000 cards are top of the line GPU atm but wait untill the price comes down a little
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans
>Avoid Vega they are poor values and inferior to their Pascal counterpart in every way
1080p
>1060 6GB standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/1080 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
1440p
>GTX 1070Ti/1080
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
4K
>Upscale from 1620-1800p. Gtx 1080ti/2080. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.


Storage
>Backup before using StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
>NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models.
>Always consider G-Sync with nVidia cards
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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pajzen

Best x86-64 machine you can buy for under $300?

nth for ryzen 2000 cpus are great and OP is a faggot

>JUST BUY DEE AYEMDEE MY FRIEND
inb4 the pajeets

Hello friends,


very great post.


Have an upvote, Sir.


Go team Intel!

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Intel

an old optiplex would be pretty good

How about mini PC's are they any good?

>had a good monitor for years
>it breaks
>replace it with a TV-monitor hybrid
>calibrate the display for DVI and for SCART easily enough
>no matter what I do, HDMI never, ever looks right on it
Fuck televisions, fuck calibration, I just want to go back to having a monitor that displays shit as it should. Why are televisions like this?

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i9 9900k is the bare minimum for casual gaming

i have a piece of shit laptop and want to build a pc, is it worth it buying now or should i wait for price drops/new releases?

depends on your budget and choices

Uhhh hello? Wheres the 570 refresh???

Its all rumours and it hasn't been anounced yet.

so i got an old acer laptop whose psu burnt or shat itself, how do i get the files to my new pc now?

open it, take the storage, plug it to another computer/bay with receiver storage, transfer.

amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/electronics/229189

No matter how many shill OPs you make, 8400 will always be a shit, everyone on the planet is buying 2600.

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Thank you mr.Goldberg for replacing the perfectly reasonable and good building template with shilling, shekels will be deposited shortly

what does this mean?

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context?

>buying 2600 instead of 2600x
Lol, atleast pick the least worse cpu if you are buying poozen

Ryzen 2400g b450 motherboard and 8gb of ram

its from this psu
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103498

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It means the max output on the 12v rail is about 180W.

It's a PSU, obviously.

i certainly hope you arent thinking of buying this one, there is an easier way to bomb your own house you know, probably cheaper too

the 12v rail is what connects to the motherboard, right?

2080 ti or wait for 7nm architecture?

its part of a prebuilt, whats wrong with it?

I'm sorry but this is true. Six cores six threads WITH A LOCKED MULTIPLIER in 2018 is an absolute joke.

>the chad intel vs the virgin amd

Within the context of the prebuild most likely nothing but upgrading might choke it, doesnt exactly come with much overhead
most things in the pc use the 12V rail, GPU, CPU etc etc so it has to be good on Watts and amps

3.3v is rarely used outside the motherboard and add-in cards, but 5v and 12v is everywhere.

Be warned that 180W on 12v is too little headroom for anything besides a prebuilt. Do not upgrade that machine, particularly adding a graphics card, without replacing that PSU first. Lord knows if that shit even has overcurrent protection.

the psu is part of this pc newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ5B50216&cm_re=atc_780a_ur11-_-9SIA0AJ5B50216-_-Product if I get a 1050 ti would it work?

it should but i'd still becareful, watch for obvious signs and dont overclock

besides the pc shutting down what would an obvious sign be?

actually scratch that last part, make sure the 1050ti is without an external connector just to be sure, so it can only draw the 75W from the pci-e without danger of a bang

burning smell, weird noises from the psu, pc crashes in more demanding tasks.

An unusual smell.

Cutting it extremely close. What's most likely to happen is it works fine for 6 months and then one day you get a loud pop, your PC shuts down, and the magic smoke comes out. If you're lucky you won't have a dead motherboard, graphics card, etc.

>make sure the 1050ti is without an external connector just to be sure, so it can only draw the 75W from the pci-e without danger of a bang
That's a good way to kill that shitty motherboard. Can the card even run without the PCIe power connected?

depends on who makes it, low profile and non oc cards usually come without external power connectors but ULTRA EXTRA GAMING OC usually pack a single 6 pin

On a psu calculator I got around 263w for that build with a 1050ti and without adding anything extra like fans/other peripherals. Kinda pushing it for a cheapo 300w power supply since they usually struggle to even reach their rated wattage.

i was looking at rx580 and r7 2700x, mostly for gaming, i dont really have preferences for any brand, just want the best performance per $

Stop recommending intel cpu's, you fucking kikes. Literally no reason to buy Intel in 2018.

for the gpu, all and all it usually comes to the cooling, so just look at whats cheap but still has a beefy cooler. Other than that its mostly about faggots shilling on their favorite brand and that some manufacturer's warranty is less troublesome than others

Thanks, should i wait for ram/gpu prices to go down? will it even happen?

A penny for your thoughts, lads

I have a 6 or 7 year old laptop and a 10 year old PC. I need to upgrade both as they are heavily underpowered for my workload (some stuff is outright unsupported lmao). I can only afford to upgrade one at a time. Which do you guys reckon I should upgrade first?

- over time both will get cheaper, so I wonder if laptops get cheaper faster than separate pc parts.

- the laptop upgrade would be more expensive.

- but the laptop would provide me portability, so I could use it at work, uni, etc.

- but at the same time, I don't reeeeally have the need for a laptop most of the time, it would be more of a hypothetical benefit (at the moment at least; possible change of circumstances very quickly, so a bit of a risk to wager that I don't need portability).

- 1,2k pc vs. 1,5k - 2k laptop

thoughts?

depends if you'd want to wait, cant speculate but in my opinion it will drop once DDR5 releases and everyone moves up, and GPUs might take a while too, if you arent scared of buying second hand i'd say go for it, its a jewish myth that miner gpus are totally fucked, they are usually undervolted and underclocked because aint nobody got money to water cool like 20 gpus

Spend less on cpu and more on gpu, retard

Samsung is not going to stop price fixing memory just because they can no

Desktop, anything that needs power can be done on desktop and the rest you can do on the laptop

Planning to drop a £3-4k on a build

Worth waiting until February/March?

R8/replace parts for no strings attached wireless build
pcpartpicker.com/list/9dRwjy

Inb4 m-muh response time

Is there such a thing as wireless monitor?

>Planning to drop a £3-4k on a build
Will be a felony if it's not a dual Xeon build desu

thanks a lot user

then what should be my best bet? can i use a r5 2600 instead and still get good performance?

nope. there's never a "good" time to build a computer. as soon as a part hits the shelves it's obsolete and no one really knows where prices will go. it's better to act now and have a nice system instead of waiting for whatever "might" happen. I'd like to remind you that the US tariffs against Chinese products begin January, making it hard to predict pricing overall. Yes, I know you're probably in the UK but the tariffs might affect pricing all over the world. It could be negative, where things get really expensive, or positive where things get cheap. Not sure, user.

I'm leaning the same way.
My current desktop is a lot more out of date and I prefer working on it than on the laptop.

Tbf, as I'm writing this, I just realised that I didn't even think about upgrading my laptop. I can probabably just get a decent ssd, some extra ram and it would be enough for my needs without the need of a better cpu. I'll have to look into it.

Thanks, lad.

I'm putting together a Ryzen build for 3d modeling/gaming. I know everyone says you should get CL14 ram for Ryzen but how much of a difference does it actually make?

Newegg has this on sale right now
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232748&cm_re=tridentz_3200-_-20-232-748-_-Product

The same kit in CL 14 is $180 more

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still shilling

>still posting the new thread almost and hour before bumplimit
cringe

Did Intel's 10nm fail because the CEO was focused on diversity instead of production?

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>AAayyyyyMD fans
YIKES!

Mother supports up to 2666mhz ram. Get one of these

Welcome to the ryzen experience

non RGB ram costs considerably less
as far as performance goes it seems to be very minimal and certainly not worth paying 50% extra for as long as you have reasonably good ram (3000/15 or 3200/16)

Doesn’t make much of a difference.

How is 2133 mhz ram for a ryzen CPU?

Imagine you pour a canister of piss into a bucket of shit

A bit too slow, might as well use intel at that point if speed isn’t your thing.

That's true but not by much. Non rgb cl14 3200 is still $120 more.

My GPU died, and i want to upgrade my ancient system. I can purchase a used 4770k/MB/16GB ddr3 ram/GTX 1070 or new 2600x/MB/16GB ddr4 ram and a used r9 290 for the same price. I mostly use my computer for productivity, and will probably buy a RTX 2080 for 4k gaming if the price drops. What do you think will be the best purchase? Is there a big difference between a 4770k/ddr3 and 2600x/ddr4?

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congrats on being so retarded you can look at qlv

>4770k/ddr3 and 2600x/ddr4?
Mostly in non gaming just although it is still a bit better in gaming as well.

>intel hijacked OPs only get posted during real indian hours
really activates my almonds

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Thinking about getting SSD. Currently 1tb 7200 hdd. What's your thoughts on Gigabyte UD Pro? What are your other suggestion?

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wtf. i paid 216 ukbux for my cl14 3200 16gb. how fucking much is the other ram to be 120 american dollars more?

This is for a 32gb kit. It's $400 for the cheapest cl14 3200 32gb kit.

Samsung EVO 860 and Crucial MX500 are /pcbg/ approved 3D NAND SSDs.

Intel's VP is a Pajeet, not even American

Intel also has Raja

There's always something better coming out

The worst time to build is actually early next year because you'll cuck yourself for not waiting for what AMD will pop out in April/May

Then after AMD shits out a new CPU you'll also wait again for Intel's CPU to show up 6 months later

It's the same on the GPU side even, if you wait for next year you'll be suckered in into waiting for 7nm gimmicky AMD GPUs and then Nvidia will crap out a new GPU late 2019/early 2020

What's a good motherboard for an i5 6400 and 2133 mhz of ram? I don't need any fancy stuff like built in wifi

>Wireless
Cringe in all fields, i don't have to explain why its inferior, just learn to hide wires and do cable management
pcpartpicker.com/list/YFcgpG

Dammit
is meant for

>Not samsung
shit

>What's a good motherboard for an i5 6400
corelet lol

amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00P73B1E4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is this an okay SSD?

5 stars over more than 4700 customer reviews isn't enough for you?

It's overpriced and a technology behind.
Can find a 500GB EVO 860 in my country at 100€, probably around 85 British ruppies.

Lmao, point of build was to reduce cables and still game and you just added more and switched to Ryzen

Just stop. Wireless is getting unnoticable. I’m not going to the grand esports final I’m fragging children

gotta check with with you neckbeards first

Any of you fags really own a threadripper? Two questions in case yes:

1) Is it really that hard to install Win7? Some people state no X399 chipset drivers and other crap
2) I read AMD is going to enable some local mode feature or whatever that'll going to boost Threadrippers by 48% WTF. Are you ready for that and is it even for real?
3 (bonus) how it feels? Is it enough for watching porne in 1080p and freeze-free imageboard shitposting

buying used motherboards a good idea?

Should I get the GTX 1080ti regular or OC edition? Help please

Why does everyone hate Indians

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EVGA a good psu manufacturer?

Nope especially Intels motherboard because them pins easily break.

we don't hate indians, we hate everyone. Welcome to Jow Forums, fuck off.

because intel, apple, and microsoft hires them by the dozens to shill here