>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming >R5 2400G/R5 2600/x- Consider IF on sale >i5 8400 - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for i7 9900k and 9700k - Surely the best for gaming at any resolution >i7 8700k - Currently best high-end gaming at any resolution/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are top of the line GPU atm but wait untill the price comes down a little >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans >Avoid Vega they are poor values and inferior to their Pascal counterpart in every way 1080p >1060 6GB standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/1080 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >GTX 1070Ti/1080 >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Gtx 1080ti/2080. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider G-Sync with nVidia cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Give me two good reasons not to buy a high tier X370 motherboard over a mid tier X470. Prices are basically identical
Christian Young
if you're gonna troll at least properly edit the post you're copy + pasting >>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal yeah for ryzen which is pretty much don't recommend. if you're shilling intel it should be 3000mhz+ >Backup before using StoreMi that's a ryzen feature which you for the most part don't recommend since you're shilling intel. you should be shilling intel optane instead
And no matter which one you buy, you'll be stuck with a Poozen.
Jace Howard
pcpartpicker.com/list/xLY2TB Is there a better MicroATX board? Building a secondary system for shitposting reasons.
AMD has such poor support for other form factors, the only good boards are either full ATX or ITX. >inb4 intel shills Not planning on putting a dGPU in it for a while so intel CPU's are out of the question.
Robert Cook
StoreMI and XFR2
Evan Hill
funny you should say that since new testing has AMD and intel at enar identical gaming performance computerbase (dot) de/2018-09/ryzen-7-2700x-core-i7-8700k-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/#abschnitt_testergebnisse
Nathaniel Baker
>intel still rapes poozen despite the benchmark being GPU bottlenecked
Jeremiah Scott
xfr2. if you're getting second generation ryzen not having full xfr2 support is just a waste of ryzen second generation. huge improvements to second generation ryzen performance is because of xfr2.
Samuel Lopez
>muh GPU bottleneck dingdingding there it is again, nice buzzword
Cooper Reed
Even if we disregard the fact that the benchmark is utter shit, Intel still wins.
Jace Morgan
>buy intel >have to pay a premium for a certain cpu so you can OC and get decent performance >have to pay a premium for a certain chipset so you can oc and get decent performance >buy amd >buy any cpu >buy any chipset >can oc all you want
Why won't poo in loos post a benchmark that isn't GPU bottlenecked?
Easton Smith
Currently in the market for a new monitor to go with my 1070. Was looking at VG245H but not sure if it's worth it to get a 144 instead of the 75. Is there a huge noticeable difference from 75-144?
Joshua Peterson
Aren't PBO and XFR Ryzen2000 features and motherboard agnostic? Or is that only XFR and not XFR2?
Hudson Myers
>can oc all you want
You can OC it all you want it still won't come anywhere near intel performance.
Eli Bell
So it turns out that the intel is faster yes, the English article that linked this one said that the intel trails the AMD by 1% but what they meant by that is that the (in Europe similarly priced) 8400 trails the 2700x in 1080p gaming 1%.
David Garcia
>anywhere near prove it fag show your gigantic performance advantage
Nolan Williams
I'm not going to waste my time discussing a GPU bottlenecked benchmark.
When you AMDniggers grow a pair are ready to do some real benchmarks, then we'll continue this conversation.
Colton Gomez
Until other brands are benchmarked in torture test for longelivity, its hard to trust them.
Samsung SSDs can lasts ~10 Petabytes of writes. That was last or the generation before the last.
DUDE just get a fucking SSD, stop nagging us with this shit. Crucial gives really long warranty, if you don't care about that go ahead with your tech deals and get the giggabite one who even cares about a 50$ purchase
Grayson Gonzalez
I want to know what benchmark that is doesn't mean anything if it's some literally who benchmark
Adam Allen
Calm down, Pajeet, it's ok.
Luke Sanders
>some literally who benchmark
lol
Ian King
>ask for benchmarks >get some list of numbers with a repost filename
Andrew Price
Buy a 2600 for 140€ + 30€ cooler or wait for 7nm ryzen 5 3XXX? Already have an am4 board. Just need to get faster (3200mhz) and lower latency (CL14) ram.
what do you have now? if it's decent just wait and get that nice ram in the meantime
Xavier Richardson
Doesn't matter they are both obsolete by intel
Camden Reed
So is the 7700k worth buying?
Zachary Brooks
My Radeon WX8200 just shipped, what do I do with the POS Vega Founders Edition? Hope for some crazy minder to buy it up or keep it for aesthetic reasons?
Ian Morales
Is it worthwhile to do a skylake or kabylake system in 2018? I recently acquired a z710 board off a coworker
Kayden Nguyen
Depends, Kaby Lake has a lot of hardware acceleration support for really recent stuff but is swiss cheese in terms of open vulnerabilities. Skylake I wouldn't do in 2018, however the actual, overclocked gaming performance is basically fine. 4c/8t with high clocks still runs games well with a high end GPU.
Caleb White
Better than anything AMD has to offer and it's not even close.
Jaxon Bell
No, they're chipset features.
Adam Powell
>thread about pc building >shitting it up with shilling
Are there any 1440p 120hz+ monitors that don't cost as much as a GPU? My monitor is getting dimmer so it needs to be replaced(it's an old POS I got when I was broke) but paying $400-$600 for a monitor puts me off.
Robert Long
big difference between the truth and just greatly exaggerating it for shitposting
Jose Green
I have an r5 2200g and it's severely bottlenecking my 1070. I can wait until q2 2019 for the next ryzen but if there's a good deal on a 2600X I might go for it I don't have an Intel mobo and they're ridiculously expensive, so no thank you, buddy.
Charles Adams
2200g is r3 dumbass
Adam Thomas
brainlet here and i need some help. looking to upgrade from a jigabyte rx580 to either a 1070ti or 1080.
looking at a EVGA 1070ti SC for $315, mined on for 8 months or 1080 FTW for $380, no idea on condition or usage 1080 Duke for $385, used for 6 months 1080 strix for $420, lightly used, mined on for 2 months.
leaning towards the strix.
Nicholas Rogers
>glock I'll be suicidal too
Gabriel Bennett
Are there any issues with this build? I've never built a PC before so sorry if there are glaring mistakes
Indian here. Cringe at white sóyboy subhuman making fun of us for being successful and intellectual. Your CPU and your moms vagene all has our poo in it haha.
I actually considered Ryzen but this is before the 2xxx series and the 1600 still sucked in game while the complete Ryzen build would cost me ~200 bucks more compared to this prebuild.
but the 7400 is really slow in comparison to the 2600, not arguing that you shouldn't do this but I don't think it's the best idea. What currency is this in?
Thomas Hill
Swedish. The 2600 didnt exist back then.
Elijah Foster
Oh, I thought you were the guy looking for a prebuilt.
