/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing.
>Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.
>For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

CPU
>i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming
>R5 2400G/R5 2600/x- Consider IF on sale
>i5 8400 - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7 8700k - Currently best value high-endgaming at any resolution
>i7 9900k and 9700k - Surely the best for gaming at any resolution/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>RTX 2000 cards are top of the line GPU atm but wait untill the price comes down a little
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans
>Avoid Vega they are poor values and inferior to their Pascal counterpart in every way
1080p
>1060 6GB standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/1080 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
1440p
>GTX 1070Ti/1080
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
4K
>Upscale from 1620-1800p. Gtx 1080ti/2080. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.


Storage
>Backup before using StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
>NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models.
>Always consider G-Sync with nVidia cards
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

Previous POO thread
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de.pcpartpicker.com/guide/t832FT/great-amd-gaming-build
marketscreener.com/business-leaders/Robert-Holmes-Swan-05FLKQ-E/biography/
twitter.com/witeken/status/1052608662534062080
de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vjzrtg
tomshardware.com/news/intel-10nm-delays-manufacturing-group,37940.html
pcpartpicker.com/list/mxyq7W
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-04/intel-ceo-list-is-said-to-eye-outsiders-in-break-with-tradition
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NLwFxG
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Based OP

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Any Threadripper owners?

MX500 or 850 EVO?

whoa intel got a new ceo, is anyone here surprised that hes a pajeet?

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That's not Robert H. Swan, a white male. Now I know why AMD fanboys, known commies and SJW for diverse women like Lisa Su, hate Intel

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newbie here, is this built good?
if it is, should I just buy the components and start building? i feel like an idiot just buying them and not knowing more about computer parts in general.

de.pcpartpicker.com/guide/t832FT/great-amd-gaming-build

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newbie here, is this built good?
if it is, should I just buy the components and start building? i feel like an idiot just buying them and not knowing more about computer parts in general.

de.pcpartpicker.com/guide/t832FT/great-amd-gaming-build

marketscreener.com/business-leaders/Robert-Holmes-Swan-05FLKQ-E/biography/
Pathetic, even for AMD Rajeeshs

>be zoomer
>have literal screen on my cpu cooler
>Can have temps, stats or even customized animations or images on it

How can boomers even compete??

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twitter.com/witeken/status/1052608662534062080

>being so dumb you don't know what interm means

>Mr. Robert H. Swan is a Chief Executive Officer, Executive VP & CFO at Intel Corp.
Ok, just google Intel CEO
>Each of these three new divisions will have their own leader, but they will all answer to Venkata "Murthy" Renduchintala, whom Intel poached from Qualcomm in 2015. Renduchintala is now also the company’s Chief Engineering Officer.
So this is the reading power of street shitters

Seems pretty good. But at that price point, it's better to just buy a rx580/vega56 or just a 1080 instead of a 1070. Also, should probably get a better ram for 15/20 bucks more. Not entirely sure about the ssd.

ew

About to upgrade from a 55w TDP GPU to a 250w TDP GPU, is my PC going to be come a housefire? I'm concerned.

I have a taichi str4 motherboard that needs an extra atx 4pin connector to work. My psu has two extra 4 pin connectors but they are linked to the cpu connectors do the cable can't reach the extra atx 4 pin if I plug the cpu cables.
Can I just buy an extension or something?

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Boomer detected

Are you sure you put in the right 4 pin? That looks like the 4 pin addition for the 20+4 pin ATX power and you should actually plug in one of the 4pin cables you're dangling in the picture.
Or is that already what you meant? In any case, yes they make extensions for all this shit, Cablemod is a huge producer, they can give you any color you want.

>Can I just buy an extension or something?
Yes, as long as it's a CPU pin. Converters, on the other hand, can be sketchy.

Very mediocre. 1070 is massively, massively overpriced. SSD is not 3D NAND and thus also overpriced and likely crap.
de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vjzrtg Cheaper yet significantly better.

>not 280mm
Most cringe part of this, unironically

>de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vjzrtg
If you can't get that SSD in goosestepland, just get whatever cheapest 480Gb+ 3D NAND SSD is

360 is better

It's a cable with 2*8pins(2*4 pins) not the 20+4

>Yes, as long as it's a CPU pin. Converters, on the other hand, can be sketchy.
Alright thank you!

>intelfags this desperate to hide the fact that their new leader is a fat british pajeet
this image has never been more fitting

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Not bad, but that inteso ssd choice is weird

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tomshardware.com/news/intel-10nm-delays-manufacturing-group,37940.html
>NOOOOOOO THOSE RIGHT WING NAZIS CANT HAVE A WHITE MALE AS CEO, COMRADES UNITE TO DEFEND OUR DIVERSE QUEEN LISA xD
Cope harder, nigger.

>t-that means he isn't the CEO!!11
You do know that one Polack resigned and needed a temporary CEO, right?

Why is 280 better? I have a 280mm and wish I got 360

Thinking of building an HTPC which will also be used for light gaming.
pcpartpicker.com/list/mxyq7W
opinions /b

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-04/intel-ceo-list-is-said-to-eye-outsiders-in-break-with-tradition

Interm means temporary pajeet, face it, this is the permanent CEO, and we have known it for months

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It would work but you cannot upgrade anything.

Do NOT buy the 2400. Buy a cheaper RAM and get rid of that cooler so you can buy an i3 and 1050.

>temporary CEO
that's the part you seem to not understand, hes a seatwarmer for the ABSOLUTE UNIT pajeet

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aesthetics focused build inspired by pic related
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NLwFxG

I just want something that looks good

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still better than a 240.

Buy the 2400G just to piss these two off.
Shitposting aside I have one as an HTPC and it's pretty great. Will play just about anything for you as long as you're willing to go 720/768 for newer stuff and if you need more GPU power just drop a proper video card in later.

280mm is the optimal size where the radiator has a large surface area but doesn't need a hueg case.
Ignoring thickness, the rough size of typical radiators is:
240 mm -> 280 cm2
280 mm -> 392 cm2
360 mm -> 432 cm2

A big jump from 240mm but 360 isn't really worth the hassle.

These two even holy shit this is why I never post anything.

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the Silverstone FT03 looks better imo, does it have to be an RGB build?

samefag, and how will he become CEO if was voted chief enginnering officer just today lmao. you also wouldn't make that kike keller a CEO because he designs CPU architectures. Absolute state of Rakesh Goldstein.

I have no problem with him getting the 2400g, it's that damn 150w psu that's gonna limit him when you can build a micro atx system with 500w psu that will at least let you run a mid range GPU.

Seriously though the APU sucks ass especially in Linux and you could get a cheap last gen i3+1050 to blow that build out of the water.

>150W PSU
oh shit I missed that what the fuck. Yeah you could do FAR better there, maybe drop to a 2200G or get a cheaper case to make room for a nice SFX PSU if budget is an issue.

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Hes been chief engineering officer for a long time, now you are just making shit up

i like that case a lot but honestly fuck rgb. i don't see the point of housing a gay parade inside your rig nor the appeal of having your rig constantly lit up like the fucking skynet gonna pop out of there at any second

Retarded. If you want a 2400G shitbox get a HTPC

>but doesn't need a hueg case.
Most standard atx cases have space for at least 1 360 rad if not more, what are you talking about?

2 large 140mm fans is quieter than 3 faster spinning 120mm fans. And the surface area is nearly the same.
There is also the thickness. A 10% thicker 280mm rad is going to have the same fin area and at that point is straight up better in every way given the above.

280mm also tends to fit in more good cases. 360 is very limiting. Even if 360 fits your current case, you may wind up changing cases in a future upgrade and it would limit what you can change to.

That does look super nice for a class panel case.

The point of RGB is that you can change it to the color you want. Like there it's all red tone.

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is now a good time to pick up an RX580 or should i give it a couple weeks for the rumoured RX590?

also the OP is an unbased intel/nvidia shill post

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Why is the 1070ti recommended for 1080p instead of the 1070?

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cringe

>GPU bottleneck

>AMD unboxed

Lol what a hypocrite

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ti performance are worth the small price difference

>unbased
Unbiased*

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>ryzenfags can get quality parts for not much more than a lame ass locked sku 6 core on a shit board
U played urself.

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SIR PLS DELID

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newfag here
why is the pajeet meme used for intel and not amd when amd ryzen team are literal pajeets?

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About to do a build with an X470 Taichi. There are people online complaining that the board doesnt read temperatures right. However, EVERY x470 board seems to have this issue and more if you Google.

The Taichi also had a problem with PBO but this was fixed in the latest UEFI that I got by emailing them.

Should I do a return for a different board or give it a shot?

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They're both run by pajeets at this point, but at least the AMD pajeet's product is really good for the money.

>7% better performance for 108% price increase

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>Each of these three new divisions will have their own leader, but they will all answer to Venkata "Murthy" Renduchintala, whom Intel poached from Qualcomm in 2015. Renduchintala is now also the company’s Chief Engineering Officer.
Kys shill. Cope with the fact that 9th gen Intel outsold Zen+ already and stop talking shit

There's more to computers than specs, and intel dudes just don't get it, they see an 8400 getting close to an R5 2600 on benchmarks and say it's better, when for that money you're getting an Asus hero board than cna overclock better than that B360 that is locked and couldn't even OC if it had shit for VRMs, which it doesn't, 3600mhz ram on the AMD machine.

If the testers cheaped out on the board and ram to make it similar to the budget garbage system someone choosing the i5-8400 would make, the i5-8400 is basically a pointless chip to get in comparison.

2600 is pointless since you get garbage performance unless you overpay for other stuff

Ringbus isn't for gaming, show us the 8700K benchmark to make it fair
>32 cores vs 18 while AMD autoclocks to 4.2 Ghz

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>There's more to computers than specs
The absolute State of Poozen

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Compare a high end Z370 chipset board with a good vrm or whatever outrageous number they're on now, get fast ram, and the intel rig get's fucking destroyed on price to perf.

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>Premium VRM
Useless if youre not extreme overclocker

>Fast RAM
Again useless if you cant use all that bandwidth

AMDrones buy computer parts just to show off big numbers and look at benchmark all days or something?

>28 core on water cooling vs a 32 core on LN2, only clocking 100Mhz more
Lmao, only 274 points more

I know there's not much more gain by upping the speeds to high ehavens, but I don't get why intel dudes will compare a ryzen machine with a $250 board with an intel machine that has a $100 board and say the ryzen rig is not giving good price to perf, when you can get a b350 board for cheap with 2666 ram and be way cheaper overall.

>NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
What about NVMe (with nvme speeds) with dram over dramless SATA for an extra ~$15. Does it worth?

The only "bad" thing is the Phison controller I guess, most SSDs I saw had SiliconMotion.

>32 cores vs 18 cores

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Intel doesn't offer better, sorry

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I'm ordering a Ryzen 3 2200G and a Asrock B450M Pro4.

Should I go for 2x8GB or 1x16GB?

I'll be upgrading the Ryzen within 6 months to a dedicated GPU setup. Is a 550W PSU good enough for a standard flagship Ryzen 5 and dedicated GPU? I won't be overclocking anything besides the memory to get it set at 3000Mhz

2x8GB for sure, that APU basically NEEDS that dual-channel RAM bandwidth.