What the fuck am I doing wrong Jow Forums? I’ve applied to thousands of places and still NOTHING. I don’t get it. I know the data science/statistics shit that businesses want these days but I’m still not getting anything. >inb4 it’s your CV I’ve had my CV and cover letter checked several times by professionals. Everything checks out and I don’t have employment gaps (except the current 7 months unemployed thing)
>inb4 remove your PhD from CV And leave a 7 year employment gap?! What kind of shitty advice is this?
>inb4 apply abroad Tried that but still not getting anything. And besides don’t most of these jobs require you to know the local language? They always say this is not a “requirement” but it is “preferred” that I know the language...
>inb4 aim lower I’m practically overqualified for most low tier jobs so aiming lower wouldn’t do me any good. I’ve applied to both small firms and large ones. I’ve even been trying to get unpaid internships but STILL NOTHING. I spend 13 hours a day sending about 8-10 job applications because I have to tailor each and every one. Many jobs that I qualify for as per the job description I STILL don’t get through. What’s worse is that I don’t even know where I’m going wrong because I always get the generic automated rejection emails with no feedback. NANI THE FUCK?!
do you have any experience in the field? I'm not an expert on this, but I'm pretty sure employers want you to know what the fuck you're doing before employing you
Austin Smith
I don't usually spout the networking meme, considering that you don't really need much of it and it's overrated, not to mention that it can sometimes not be that easy, even at good schools...
...but how the fuck did you manage to not secure a position during a fucking PhD before receiving the title? Being closer to your supervisors and the academic environment in general should make it piss easy. This is of course assuming you're not LARPing.
Parker Moore
>except the current 7 months unemployed thing Plug that hole with a project on GItlab or Github.
Zachary Lewis
I started my own business. Now I can fill every "unemployment gap" with: yeah, I was working on my business.
Bentley Phillips
LARP CS PhDs go for $800k total comp start
Gavin Nguyen
Are you sure you're not heavily implying that you're a loner, or that you're a burnout potential, not enough teamplayer or whatever. Most employers just wants to make sure that they'll keep you long enough, that you have a life (or seems to have one) besides work, and that you will integrate the team without hiccup.
William Torres
Pajeet
Samuel James
Maybe you need a new approach. Stop sending resumes and start sending advertisements.
Thomas Reed
It's because you're white.
Zachary Reyes
If you have a PhD then maybe you already know what some companies are doing wrong and how they should fix it. You need to market a solution to them, one that involves giving you lots of money.
Adam Russell
Because your probably a social retard or your resume isn't getting through the automated system.
Also is it a PhD in some retarded subject like UI or something?
William Murphy
Maybe you're creepy or something?
Jace Sullivan
Ok let's unwrap this. Try removing all the toxic pro-Trump shit you post on social media and that might just work.
Charles Harris
Change your legal name to Tyrone. That should at least get you an interview from HR trying to fill the diversity quota.
Elijah Edwards
its because you are lying and making these work threads for the past year
just die in your sleep already
Xavier Parker
this
Michael Jackson
Work on games OP. I'm not even kidding
Carter Sanders
Blame it on the Jews and become a demagogue instead.
Gabriel Carter
Add "I am genderfluid" to your CV
Cooper Moore
Get a penis extension operation and join the gay circuit with all the gay academics you came into contact with. They're all gay. Get used to eating academic dick and you will become a top tier academic with the best of them.
Cooper Sanders
is a coding bootcamp as good as a phd?
Eli Murphy
only bugmen do shit like that
Isaac Green
recruiters are looking for people with experience and abilities, not knowledge.
Carson Turner
This, OP could be a good teacher, he could write books or lecture everyone about anything in the field. Employers just want to get shit done.
Jason Roberts
>tfw autist Guess I'll be stuck flipping burgers.
Tyler Green
wtf i thought that this was an autist field? are you telling me we have to be normal people?
Ian Cook
Go teach. That's what everyone else with a PhD does.
Lincoln Williams
Seems like it.
Oh well, I was planning on killing myself anyway.
Lucas Taylor
Made me giggle
Brandon Powell
is being a teacher a good way to network?
Camden Ortiz
It's a good way to fuck the lunch lady
Blake Lewis
do you really seriously have a PhD? man you shouldn't be having any trouble getting a job. do you have a DUI charge or something?
Benjamin Barnes
>not having a qt 3.14 lunch lady for sloppy toppy and sloppy joe
PhDs and everything else about higher education is worthless. All you really need is nepotism. Where are your friends in high places?
Owen Russell
I sometimes get the impression that a lot of people who whine about jobs on Jow Forums aren't quite honest about their situation.
Oliver Hughes
7 years for a PhD and you dont see the problem? Is this what the youngs call "trolling"?
Gavin Reyes
>expecting anyone on Jow Forums to be honest
Robert Ward
maybe he is including undergrad?
Isaiah Foster
>>inb4 remove your PhD from CV >And leave a 7 year employment gap?! it took you 7 years to get a degree that normally takes 4 to complete?
Dylan Nguyen
>he fell for the CS meme Wrong field, one letter off, CE is where it's at
Leo Torres
it still doesn't check out. you need to finish MSc to go to PhD program, right? MSc alone takes 5 years, at least in EU
Sebastian Nguyen
He clearly says
Cooper Ward
Not sure if it’s true for CS, but you can go straight from undergrad to a PhD sometimes
Brandon Fisher
how would it take 5 years to get a master??? wtf are you doing that it takes 5 years?
Adrian Cook
is CS at the grad level still full of spergs?
Jayden Gomez
This. It's what I want to try to avoid I want to succeed without nepotism even if it takes a while. I mean I'm being offered a job by relatives and colleagues but I consider it nepotism.
John Gray
just take it, those opportunities might not be there later
Easton Butler
>What the fuck am I doing wrong Jow Forums? you got a phd in meme science
Jonathan Hughes
Not him, but I think he meant M.Sc.Eng. which is a degree that contains both a B.Sc. and an M.Sc.
David Robinson
Is a phd ever worth it?
John Brooks
If you aren't a druggie then apply to some defense contractors They are always looking for PhDs that are able to get through a security clearance
Hudson Murphy
>falling for the kike defense contractor meme have fun wage slaving for israel
Joshua Cook
This boy doesn't have many other options
Ryder Lewis
an hero
Samuel Morales
or maybe he should start sending threats
Andrew Green
>tfw everyone said you could get a job in webdev being self taught without a CS degree, if you had a decent portfolio >every single job posting requires at least a bachelors
This so much. I didn't start getting work until after I put that on my resume. Make sure to work on your bluster. Refluff school projects as jobs you did, etc.
Jordan Flores
I pray to God this isn't true, I only have a minor in CS
Caleb Bell
LARP or post diploma
Cameron Gray
That's to filter out stinky poos and "b-b-b-but I did a Udemy course I'm an expert in my field" faggots. You don't actually need a degree if you have a portfolio unless you're applying to a company with a complicated website.
Your approach is bad. If you have had no industry jobs while in your pursuit of your Ph.D. you will have to tailor your first job to whatever the emphasis of your research was. It might be a shit job for the gubment that only pays $80k. Do that for 2 years and then you'll be able to get a "real" job.
Cameron Perez
>nepotism is bad Your philosophy is retarded and full of holes.
You have a sea of candidates. Millions of them. Hundreds of people apply for one position.
You are a recruiter. What do you do? 1. feed the resumes through the automated HR system that you probably don't even control 2. you still have a bunch of resumes from faceless thirsty new grads 3. you set up an interview with them just to see if the resume is accurate and that they even partially fulfill the requirements of the job description and aren't a complete sperg that everyone in the office will hate. 4. Create a shortlist of applicants, they're all kind of the same--you can only figure out so much about a person in the hour you talk to them and have them solve problems for you 5. roll the fuckin dice, something has to cull the numbers for you.
or 1. you've known a guy for years and you know he's not a sperg and that he's actually capable of doing stuff because you've worked with him on projects before and you cooperate well with each other. 2. Done. Oh my god how hard was that
You equate nepotism to corruption, everyone else equates nepotism to one of the most effective decision making tools available to humans.
>7 years for PhD Yeah, no wonder you're not getting hired. People don't want to hire retards.
Caleb Johnson
PHDs are worthless for doing actual work. Just go work at some uni, spending half your time scrambling to justify your existence for grant money.
Cooper Ortiz
You're absolutely right, most people who complain about nepotism are fucking retards who didn't bother to make connections in college. Half of the reason you go there in the first place is for networking with other people in your field of work.
Benjamin Robinson
How did you not build relationships with people in such an intimate setting as esoteric CS for 7 years? Why not just go back to academia? If you were truly aiming for industry work you should've at least taken an internship which would start to connect you to higher figures.
I can understand a recent Bachelor grad being in your situation because they're what, 22-23 and didn't figure out the game yet, but how did you live with your fingers in your ears for so long?
Zachary Morgan
>everyone else equates nepotism to one of the most effective decision making tools available to humans. This is just wrong. A completely randomized method of all the most qualified applicants is the best. Otherwise how else can you prevent the least adequate applicant from getting a job only because he decided to not master the craft but rather suck ass of potential employers
Christopher Jackson
>only pays $80k. I guess it's not much for someone that has a PhD but compared to what I make it seems like a massive amount of money.
Charles Cruz
>Still no diploma for CS >Working for over a year in industry as web dev with decent pay
Literally just show some skills
Jason Phillips
are you one of those that thinks meritocracy is bad?