AMOLED is the most based and redpilled display tech

>perfect colors
>no burn-in
Why can't you buy entire monitors?

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overpriced garbage

>perfect colors
Not even close, especially on a panel by panel comparison, adjustments and tweaks to color profiles are always necessary

>no burn-in
Do you even know what the O in OLED means? It means organic as in living as in having a finite lifespan and OLED - any variation of the basic technology - all suffer actual burn-in depending on brightness levels and power usage. Keep your OLED display at 100% brightness and watch what happens in just a few weeks time if not even sooner.

Go stop in a cell phone store sometime like AT&T or T-Mobile or some other big carrier store and look at the Samsung Galaxy devices that have been on display at full brightness with OLED displays - horrible burn-in to extreme degrees.

Try harder next time, son, you have disappoint.

>t. huaweifag

>AMOLED
>no burn-in
You fucking what?
>The organic materials used in AMOLED displays are very prone to degradation over a relatively short period of time, resulting in color shifts as one color fades faster than another, image persistence, or burn-in.[16][17]

>no burn-in

Have you seen a Galaxy phone after a year of use?

If non-OLED screens don't suffer from burn-ins, how can I see some "shadows" from displayed UI elements on my IPS phone? Why do they suffer from this occasional image retention effect?

to be honest, i prefer IPS phones over AMOOLED or O-LED

fucking black crush and smearing..

t/l note: in Russian Huawei is pronounced хyя вeй, which translates to "dick waving"

Mine is doing well

Organic doesn't mean alive, it just means there's carbon there.

You prefer to never have blacks? Sounds logical...

What's the problem with VA panels?

Yes, i prefer being able to see more shades of blacks, while having a worse absolute black, where everything under 155 is the same as 0.

theyre shit?

>Organic as in living
Get a load of this dropped baby

AMOLED is based, I'll never buy a phone without it

Wrong, its хya вeй, you just love dicks and see them everywhere.

My S5 is still doing fine

and it even has a better screen than the regular pixel 2!

>no burn-in
What

Reds are oversaturated
Just look how much they stand out compared to blue and green

>organic as in living
Lol fucking retard

>It means organic as in living
Organic means it contains carbon.

Organic means living

>Organic means living
I haven't laughed that hard in ages. Thanks, user.

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While you are all correct, that does not mean that OLED doesn't suffer burn-in. Even non-O LEDs degrade over time.

I AM SUPERIOR TO YOU FOR BEING RIGHT

Organic means living, back 2 school kiddies

Learn English you fucking mongoloid.
OLEDs aren't alive

Why do you feel so important that you have to make a number out of yourself on an anonymous board?

>amoled
>no burn-in
Sure, sweetie.

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See: Organic Chemistry.

He's 400lbs, 30 years old and lives in his mother's basement. The only thing he has going for him is being right online. Welcome to Jow Forums.

You're correct that current OLED displays suffer from burn-in issues. This is getting less serious though.

Read a book, nigger.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry

seriously, I want an OLED monitor. Are these available yet? I have seriously thought about gutting an OLED tablet, and somehow converting in into an OLED computer monitor

ino no possible context anywhere does organic mean living. you are one step below retarded. youre like if a person with down syndrome also had autism

>This is getting less serious though.
It will always exist and is intrinsic to the technology, however, whereas LCD cannot suffer burn-in.

>LCD cannot suffer burn-in.
Sorry honey, that's false, at least on Apple products.

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Image retention is different from burn-in in that it isn't permanent.

t.Mactoddler

Yes, I'm sure Apple uses their own extremely custom formulation of liquid crystals that can suddenly suffer burn-in.

>Pays $2000 for a computer
>It can't even show neutral grey without shitting itself

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LCD can suffer burn in. It just takes way, way longer.

You seem to follow very childish logic, like saying "trees aren't living because they don't have consciousness" things can be alive in many other ways, they don't necessarily have to think, breathe or have blood flowing inside them to be "alive". Also your use of language confirms you're a child as I originally stated so get off this board now. Adults don't discuss things calling each other niggers and downers.

Organic means carbon based you fuckwat.

AND carbon implies living

Is charcoal living?

It can in fact not. It can have image retention, and in fact I see that all the time on my panels, but there is no permanent degradation. The backlight can degrade, but that at least is uniform over the whole screen.

>"trees aren't living because they don't have consciousness"
Not even him, but that's not at all what he said, he just said that "organic" is a very different term from "living", which is true. In actual fact, clinically dead organisms are still organic.

nigger

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IS A DIAMOND LIVING?

GET OUT

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I'll just enjoy my oled display like a normal person. With regular usage an oled screen will shift to a more orange (comfy btw) color due to the blue leds degrading the fastest over the years. burn in is not an issue. if you do have burn in it's unironically your fault and an applel-esque "you're using it wrong" is in order. most people crying about oled are probably using sub $200 chinkphones and have never used anything else and that's not wrong. but please shut the fuck up poor retards.

Diamonds are the hardest form of life known to man, nerd.

MicroLED is the future. Death to OLED.

>Adults don't discuss things calling each other niggers and downers.
>t. nigger

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I guess airplanes are living since they are made of carbon fiber
what a time to be alive

I wasn't being racist, I was just calling him a nigger - Read his post and you'll see why it's funny... nigger.

Nah you're straight up wrong.
p.s. not him.

Not even carbon based, just carbon containing. Molecules which contain carbon are organic molecules.

No it doesn't. The entire universe is full of organic compounds yet afaik Earth is the only confirmed life-bearing celestial body.

LCD image retention can be "permanent" if the image has been static for long enough. It's true that the effect is completely reversible given enough effort as nothing has physically been burned away.

The same is partially true for OLED too though. The burn in is simply the emitters wearing unevenly, so by tracking the on/off ratio for subpixels you can produce wear-leveling patterns which "remove" the burn. You can then drive the whole display a bit harder to restore brightness. The display has physically aged, but nothing lasts forever.

>mfw my favourite phone has an IPS display

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>the colloquial definition trumps the relevant definition
Gravity is just a theory, flat earthers rise up.

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Does anyone sometimes lie awake at night and reminisce about what could have been had things not fucked up so badly? I do.

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He's a big Asian.

>LCD image retention can be "permanent" if the image has been static for long enough.
Wrong. It doesn't get worse the longer you have the image on, but reaches equilibrium after a while, and always goes away after a somewhat short amount of time.
>wear-leveling patterns which "remove" the burn
You'd be pretty hard-pressed to "wear-level" a display that has been showing the same pattern for years on end.

>seriously, I want an OLED monitor. Are these available yet?

I see them around occasionally yeah, albeit usually in "its a tv that's getting used as a monitor" form. My favorite thing to do when i encounter one in the wild is pull up a full screen of blank white and see what kind of porn the owner's into by the burned in logos. Brazzers, BLACKED and DogFart always stand out nice and crisp.

so, nothing like 32 inches or smaller?

>pentile at any less than 500 PPI
Yikes.

>All the issues of CRT with all the issues of LCD
What's the fucking point?

The crystals can become permanently biased and won't relax properly on their own. I'm not sure how you've never seen this. I used to work at a hospital, and occasionally you could spot an old display once attached to x-ray equipment in use at a nurses station or whatever. The x-ray machines ran DOS, had a mostly static output for the settings screen, and were powered on 24/7. You could see the outlines of the ascii partitions clearly on a white background. They replaced the machines with ones that gave an instant digital output, and the still-standard old displays got recycled into use elsewhere.
The x-ray machine replacement project happened over a year before I started working there, yet I still saw the outlines of that DOS application.

>Wear levelling a display that has been showing the same pattern for years on end.
Nah you'd want to do it all the time to prevent a really hard burn. Like display the correction pattern whenever plugged in with the display "off", but don't drive the pixels hard enough to be clearly visible given the environmental lighting. That's probably not enough though, so it might be useful to let the user know when the ratios are out of tolerance so a correction pattern can be displayed at max brightness.

But also, OLED is getting more durable in general. The emitters simply last a lot longer than they used to, so burning is less of a concern. This will continue to improve.

huh? more like all the benefits of crt, with all the benefits of lcd, you stupid bitch

For you.

>no burn-in
Fuck are you talking about?
Also
>AMOLED
You DO realize AMOLED is still OLED, right? AM just stands for active matrix, which all high resolution displays are by default. Any kind of OLED is susceptible to burn in to one degree or another.

>Fixed pixel display
>Phosphors that degrade and burn in over time
>Phosphors that reflect ambient light, which ruins black levels and makes the screen literally unusable in bright light (the sun in a window)
>Input lag because it's digital
>Massive amount of energy used
>Extremely heavy because each subpixel is a vacuum tube
There's tons of other SED specific issues, but I don't know enough technical details about SED to comment. It was never pursued for good reason. The only thing it did better was pixel response. That's it.

No, not for a non-rich person price, anyway. There are some intended for video mastering that are like $20-30k. There was a 30" Dell OLED that was available briefly, but it had a very short production run, probably because Dell didn't want to deal with the amount of warranty claims they knew it was going to generate because of burn in.

yikes
just yikes

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there arent actually any non organic LED displays though

Ever see one of these?

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well im talking about one with a pixel size that would be tolerable at a close distance

>The burn in is simply the emitters wearing unevenly, so by tracking the on/off ratio for subpixels you can produce wear-leveling patterns which "remove" the burn. You can then drive the whole display a bit harder to restore brightness.
That's what the current LG TVs do. Of course, the compensation algorithm means that those pixels that were wearing out are now being worn out even faster since you're running them harder.

Also while it sounds straightforward in theory, in practice it's hard to do because there can be inter-panel variations in wear rate, and the rate of aging may be nonlinear as well.

That's what Micro LED displays are. Problem is they're way too expensive to manufacture currently. Give them a good 5-10 years and they might come down to consumer pricing.

>>no burn-in
top tier b8

Enjoy egg-shell fragility, expensive spares and your retina burnt faggot.

It should be possible, but there is likely some reason why it's not viable.

>retina burnt
OLED is the only torelable display since I can just make everything pitch black and it's actually black and non-backlighted

>organic means living
Fucking hell, I never knew it meant that. I guess my beer is alive then since alcohol is an organic compound.

>Organic as in living
As in carbon based you mongoloid

oops, thought you were talking about OLED.

>run each LED to a fiber optic
>you know can have pixels the size of the smallest fiber optic cable available
the only reason this isnt done is pure laziness

I dont see the issue. Undervolt the pixels. as they degrade, volt them closer to specs. A simple periodic calibration would remove any inconsistencies. you wont have issues till you start running the pixels at spec voltage. then your choice is to undervolt the rest to match, reducing brightness, but the above methods should last quite a while. They could just make easily replaceable LED panels, so when shit;s really too bad, you just change out the panel

>Gravity is just a theory, flat earthers rise up.
kek

>Undervolt the pixels. as they degrade, volt them closer to specs
At which point they degrade even faster
>A simple periodic calibration would remove any inconsistencies
Per-pixel calibration? How you gonna do that?

Regardless, if it was simple LG (and Samsung, for that matter) would be doing it already. The best LG has right now it an imperfect compensation algorithm that tends to overcompensate, causing degraded pixels to actually appear brighter initially. Once pixels have degraded past what can be compensated for, then you start seeing the burn in as darker.

>Per-pixel calibration? How you gonna do that?
umm, using pretty simple technology

See , but whether they're in displays or not, LEDs dim with age.

I've got an s7, can confirm. I can see a slight burn in of my notification bar at the top.

>The x-ray machines ran DOS, had a mostly static output for the settings screen, and were powered on 24/7.
They also probably used plasma displays rather than TFTs. I've never seen a TFT with permanent use-based damage.

CRTs were fucking perfect besides the size.

And besides the burn-in.

>Samsung S3 - 3 years
>Samsung S6 - 3 years
>Currently using S8 for 5 months
The displays has always been as good as it was bought. Never noticed any burn in in any of them.

Samsung uses SAMOLED in their flagships. Could be a meme but it works well so don't care.

the blurriness kinda sucked too

organic is a certification that the display was grown without the addition of pesticides and that it isn't GMO.

guru's problems with AMOLED
>pwm dimming
>low refresh rate
>burning in (may not be an issue but I'll include it for meme points)

guru's AMOLED advantages
>pixels can be turned off
>good viewing angles?

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