>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superceded by 7nm CPUs next year >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best overall and not a massive disappointment like the 9900k >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
...? Not enough info about your situation. But yes, generally Vega56 is the smartest mid-high tier GPU buy if you don't need 1080Ti or higher performance.
1440p 60-75hz non-sync for Nvidia 1440p 144hz Freesync for AMD
Yes.
Landon Turner
Incels do it for free.
Jose Gonzalez
>Vega56 is the smartest mid-high tier GPU
LOL Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules you know
this is what happens when you're both a dedicated CPU and dedicated GPU company. unlike Nvidia that only sticks to GPUs and Intel that only sticks to CPUs with shitty integrated GPUs.
Owen Rodriguez
Because they don't have as much money as nvidia or intel to spend in R&D. Now that they have their CPUs on track to not be dogshit I hope they can work on improving their GPU architecture.
Is there a significant performance difference between cl16-16-16-36 3200mhz and cl16-18-18-38 3200mhz on Ryzen? I know that it performs better with high-end b-die ram with lower latency and higher speed modules(cl14 3400mhz etc.) but it's also absurdly expensive, like 220€ for a b-die kit for ryzen, while the r5 2600X is around 200€.
3200 or should 3000 suffice for someone who doesn't plan on playing a lot of games?
Sebastian Gray
B-die ram is the minimum you should get with ryzen. Anything less and you will have a stutterfest
Grayson Cook
Me too. Should it be pressed up against those prongs though or bent up more?
Andrew Walker
Get faster RAM; Get a +80 bronze seasonic of at least 600W
Sebastian Cook
Vega 56 on sale for $380 with Asscreed and 2 games and free shipping. Probably going to sit on this all day deciding whether to order or not
Jason Hughes
Ryzen 5 2600 vs Ryzen 7 1700?
Did some research and these two seems to fit my bill so which two are the better for value? >mid-range gaming >mostly use my pc for making webm >autistically open 50 tabs on chrome >open multiple application because why not
No bully please, pc illiterate here
Liam Richardson
3000 is fine, there's not much difference between them.
It looks ok, as long as the shield snaps into place I think it's fine. If the ports look weird from the outside reposition the mobo.
Jaxson Cox
HDD for data drives, Crucial MX500 for program drive. I want a low-capacity MLC or something super-long lasting for my OS and basic programs, what should I get?
Isaac Wood
You can't be serious.
Matthew Rogers
Thanks I switched out to 3200 RAM and found a nice deal on a Corsair SF600 SFX PSU at a local reseller.
Noah Hall
It's not a built-in shield. And it is bulging slightly on the outside of the io shield around the port. I think I'm just going to bend it up some more.
Sebastian Phillips
no he is not.
Brandon Hill
2600, simply because it costs like $30 bucks more and has more bang for buck.
Opening 50 tabs in chrome and multiple applications at the same time also depends on the RAM that you have. Consider going for 2x8 Gb's.
Thomas Ramirez
Could I get a more serious answer, then?
Jeremiah Russell
>Opening 50 tabs in chrome and multiple applications at the same time also depends on the RAM that you have. Consider going for 2x8 Gb's. God bless, doing some research I found out that the B350 is good with the 2600, or should I go for the B450?
Anyways here's my current pc for 9 years if anyone's interested.
>Is having lots of tabs slow down your pc a meme? I have a 8yo pc I want to upgrade now, and I almost never have less than 100-200 tabs open in Firefox since I use tabs instead of bookmarks, and I've never noticed any slowdown (unless one of the tabs is a sticky with thousands of posts, that slows me down)
Jason Peterson
3200MHz CL16 kit is sweet spot for price-performance. B-die is for squeezing every last drop of performance for benchmarks. I have Gskill ripjaws V 16GB kit (3200MHz CL16) and I have it overclocked at 3333MHz on crosshair 6 hero with R5 1600X. No need to get any better than that.
Logan Turner
Even when AMD was incompareably ahead of Nvidia, much further ahead of Nvidia than Nvidia is ahead of AMD now, they still only had at most something like 55% graphics marketshare.
They couldn't keep spending so much money on graphics R&D only to have a loss in sales so they focused on spending less on R&D and making more profit in the mainstream range. However, Mr. Wang did say they would return to the high end segment. Just didn't give a date and it seemed implied that midrange is the focus and will always launch first for new arch.
Get an MSI board when it comes to that price range. Gigabyte boards are garbage except their highest end one, and even their highest end one is mediocre. That also seems expensive for an RX580. Why not just get a cheaper XFX?
Don't worry about them.
>>Is having lots of tabs slow down your pc a meme? I have a 8yo pc I want to upgrade now, and I almost never have less than 100-200 tabs open in Firefox since I use tabs instead of bookmarks, and I've never noticed any slowdown (unless one of the tabs is a sticky with thousands of posts, that slows me down) Uhh.. it did on my 2500k really bad. I had to close my browser to play games with stuttering.
Or 3000 CL15 But a 2666 CL15 kit will OC to 3000 CL15 or 3200 CL16. All those 3200 CL16 kits are is a 2666 CL15 kit with an XMP profile.
Cooper Anderson
I'd get the B450 mostly because MSI made really good B450 boards this time around and are the boards to go for. Namely the Bazooka, Mortar, A-Pro, and Tomahawk.
Connor Garcia
>I had to close my browser to play games with stuttering. What would you do to fix this? Will adding ram solve this problem?
Jeremiah Price
I'm worried about them being somewhere they aren't supposed to be. When I first did it I thought it was fine until i realized the tab was bent down and was inside of the usb port. Is it okay for it to be pushing against those prongs on the usb or should I just bend it up? The io shield is bulging near that usb port so I think it shouldn't be on those prongs but my io shield also slightly slides so maybe it's just too slid backwards? Does anyone have a pic of the b450m mortar io shield?
>That also seems expensive for an RX 580 The Nitro+ is the best 580 you can buy.
Charles Brooks
>What would you do to fix this? Will adding ram solve this problem? ... a better CPU. More threads to handle the background processes. 4c/8t at minimum. It's not a problem for me anymore with my 1600X. I can have multiple browsers and hundreds of tabs open and all sorts of other shit.
But you said you have no problem in regards to your 8 year old PC with that, so is there any point for you to upgrade?
The tab serves no purpose really. Just out of the way is fine.
Matthew Fisher
Gigabyte B450 boards are trash B450 Bazooka is the best in that price range. If you're getting Ryzen get DDR4 3200 RAM. Get a 500W PSU so you don't have to worry about maxing out your PSU when overclocking.
Sebastian Parker
Google told me it's to prevent things from falling out and to ground the ports from esd since usb transmits power.
Andrew Fisher
WHY IS THE 1080 SUDDENLY SO EXPENSIVE IT WAS SO CHEAP WEEKS AGO WHY DID I WAIT
William Reed
My PSU is fucked, it died within 7 months. It was a Corsair RM550x, according to online calculators it should be a good wattage, but i don't know if that was the case. I'm wondering should I shell out the money for a new PSU or get it sent back to be replaced. Thanks in Advance.
wat do? These are both very common products so I'm baffled over them not being compatible
Ian Ramirez
Just buy RX 470 4GB. Absolutely the same but cheaper.
Ethan Moore
>But a 2666 CL15 kit will OC to 3000 CL15 or 3200 CL16 I already have an AM4 board. I'm planning on getting a 16gb Cl16m 3200mhz kit for around 130€ and a 2600x fthe price drops under 200€. Is it a good combo?
My PSU is fucked, it died within 7 months. It was a Corsair RM550x, according to online calculators it should be a good wattage, but i don't know if that was the case. I'm wondering should I shell out the money for a new PSU or get it sent back to be replaced. Thanks in Advance.
Colton Young
>But you said you have no problem in regards to your 8 year old PC with that, so is there any point for you to upgrade? I'm not that user, my pc is literally this and opening anything more than 15 tabs slow my pc down. I literally can't play League on minimum setting with my browser open.
Chase White
>$1200 GPU >$600 CPU In terms of cost, has there ever been a worse time to build a PC?
Are you fucking retarded or something GPU prices are less than they were early this year, even the 2080 Ti costs less than 1080s and 1080 Tis did RAM and SSD prices used to be a lot higher than they are now CPUs at least have more affordability now, Intel used to charge $200 for dual cores during Skylake and Kaby Lake, now you can find Ryzen Athlons for $60
Adam Bennett
>$600 CPU Only shitty pozzed housefires cost that much
Landon Rogers
THIS IS WHY I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE TO AVOID CORSAIR GARBAGE PSUS BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Next time get Seasonic and ignore ANY other retard's advice on PSUs.
Kevin Foster
Buy seasonic or don't buy a PSU.
That's my general experience.
Brayden Morris
I wouldn't know those feels. t. $150 CPU/$250 GPU chad
Bentley Hughes
Does ryzen have integrated graphics? I dont like the idea of my graphics card shitting out and not being able to use my computer because of it.
David Stewart
>he doesn't keep an old GPU around just in case
Andrew Davis
Arent yuro prices higher still?
Parker Sullivan
Make them replace it. Warranty is there for a reason.
Jaxon Wright
My corsair HX650 started to malfunction and cause shutdowns in 3 years, some chink PSU my older PC had outlived it.
Eli Butler
The 200GE, 2200G, and 2400G do. None of the other Ryzen CPUs have any form of iGPU, although there are a few A6/A8/A10 Bulldozer APUs that are pretty much worthless.
Jonathan Bennett
We haven't ever had better prices, but sure they are higher. So are my salaries tho
Hudson Jackson
congrats you learned nr1 reason why people get a quality PSU UP NEXT, why do people get quality motherboards I swear, it's like if people dont understand how or what the thing does, they feel safe in cheapoing out on said part.
fake news!! intel runs totally cool, you just need to cripple it
Nicholas Taylor
A FUCKING CHILLER
NEVER FORGETTI
Charles Turner
The Core wasn't just "slightly" better. It was among the largest leaps in CPU performance generation to generation ever. So much so that the codename "Conroe" became a verb to describe steamrolling competition.
Henry Ross
What's the cheapest CPU I can get to run emulators for classic consoles (PS2 and older)?
Luis Myers
>The Core wasn't just "slightly" better Let's not get over ourselves.
AMD knew it too, which is why they announced price cuts a week ahead of it's launch. arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/07/7332/ >AMD's flagship processor, the Athlon 64 FX-62 for Socket AM2, has dropped to $827 from $1,031 (all prices are per CPU in quantities of 1,000). The rest of the company's dual-core CPU lineup has seen price reductions as well:
>Athlon 64 X2 5000+ from $696 to $301 >Athlon 64 X2 4600+ from $558 to $242 >Athlon 64 X2 4200+ from $365 to $187 >Athlon 64 X2 3800+ from $303 to $152 Literally slashing their entire CPU lineup pricing by at least half or more all at once. The C2D E6700 lauched at $530. The E660 @ $316 which at worst was equal to the FX-62 in testing. Absolute total surrender.
>1024x768 To make it CPU bound maybe, but at realistic resolutions the E6600 their midrange $3XX CPU was consistently crushing AMD's flagship that was not two weeks earlier retailing for more than a grand. Single thread? Multi-threaded? It didn't matter, there was a single use case for the Athlon 64 chips that made sense by then even after the price cuts. This marked the beginning of the Tick-Tock cadence era for Intel, that I would argue AMD did not recover from completely until Ryzen was released.
