Is lockpicking technology? Any lockpicking hobbyists on Jow Forums?
Just got this cheap set and am using it to get acquainted with the hobby. I have no idea what the "wavy" pick in there is though, maybe for car locks?
Is lockpicking technology? Any lockpicking hobbyists on Jow Forums?
Parker Brooks
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Isaac Rivera
The wavy pick is used for raking the tumblers. Think of it as a luck based pick. Raking it can sometimes make the tumbler get stuck and make your life a lot easier. Excellent hobby with a ton of uses.
Eli Thompson
Sorry for the time it took me to read your reply, I was practicing a bit.
I get the theory of raking, but the locks I'm practicing in are all standard tumblers with pins on top. No way that pick fits in the keyhole. Even if it did the waves follow its profile instead of going up and down. Wafer locks maybe?
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Cameron Sanders
It's not technology but it is autistic so yes this is the right place for your thread.
Gabriel Flores
It isn't a rake for a normal lock that's for sure.
Also you don't need a rake style pic to use a rake technique, that one on the far left works fine for raking, its the one I use.
Gavin Sanchez
Just melt all the locks with galium
Hudson Wood
I do have a crowbar, but that's like doing big data by putting a gun to a programmer's head and telling him to process everything for you
Anthony Sanchez
It's not autistic anymore when you use it for crime. Then you become a nigger.
Jonathan Rodriguez
Niggers don't use lockpicks though, they just smash the window and get arrested.
Aaron Perry
Has any of you actually unlocked anything at a moment of need?
Alexander Myers
Doesn't feel that useful for crime outside of stealing bikes, since most houses and storage places should have alarms in place. Besides it's too much time investment to learn a craft that will be slower than a crowbar or boltcutters every single time
Jayden Rogers
I once picked a combination lock in one of those escape rooms, does that count?
Andrew Garcia
niggers that get caught.
Ryan Rivera
That isn't the purpose of the hobby for me. I don't usually carry picks outside the house anyway (even though it's not illegal it isn't an easy thing to explain to the cops), so I wouldn't have any with me in a moment of need
Easton Williams
You can't pick an abloy(tm) disctumbler
Jaxson Thompson
>and get arrested
not in the UK
Connor Roberts
I certainly can't, I can't even pick one of the locks in my house that has abnormally long pins inside.
I believe Bosnian Bill managed to pick a protec1 due to a design flaw though. Not sure about the protec2, but I'm sure a lockpicking Barnaby Jack who can pick it is out there
Josiah Baker
Funny enough I just checked and my standard tumbler pin lock is an abloy. Didn't know they still made stuff that isn't that insane disc system. Pretty easy to pick btw (my lock, that is).
Here's the design fault I mentioned in my previous comment
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Blake Flores
required study in AZ CS, so yeah
good fun shit
Matthew Nelson
Once I did open a lab at my University. It was an old room, with some tech garbage and tons of space. No tools but a pair of paperclips. No regrets
Ryan Thomas
>Is lockpicking technology?
it can be argued that lockpicking is an essential part of infosec.
Ayden Watson
physical security, yes. this thread belongs to /cyb/ but since /cyb/ is full of larpers it's nice to have a thread like this.
Ryan Wright
Isnt the wavy one used for vehicle locks?
the triangle one is meant for raking but the hooks work better, I find the smallest hook is the one I get best results on door locks with at home
never used the deep dip hooks
Jayden Rivera
wow, I wish my college teach lockpicking too
Jaxson Campbell
I agree that it is an essential part of infosec. This however does not meme it qualify as technology. I've only ever known the definition of technology as:
>The transformation of electrical force into utility.
So while a skyscraper it self isn't technology, the process of designing and building it involves the use of several technologies.
Isaac Nelson
>implying the printing press wasnt technology
Jackson Nguyen
That's right. This definition would mean that catapults, gun powder and manual labor printing press wouldn't qualify as technology, but as something else that is "technological" in nature. Would you qualify running assembly code by hand as technology? Or is it the computer that runs the code that qualify as technology? And what about engines? Wouldn't a broader definition of
>The transformation of force into utility.
be to broad?
Adam Martinez
according to that definition, things like gravity turns and car crashes could be considered technology. I wouldn't consider actions technology.
Cooper Reyes
How is a car crash useful, it does not fit the definition of utility.,
Elijah Gonzalez
The first definition is what I was taught when I went to university in Sweden back in 2008. I am genuinely interested in hearing what definition is being used in other countries.
The printing press, if we stick with that as an example, was lifted up as technological, but not technology. It was the application of electrical control methods that changed it from just being a giant rubber stamp.
Asher Moore
It's a rake for car locks, yes. It's too big of a rake for pretty much any other type of lock, so this set is kinda meh without any smaller rakes. Though, arguably you can pick pretty much any lock you'll encounter with a half diamond or a medium hook. It'll just take longer.
Ayden Campbell
definitely not for wafer locks. you use a jiggler for those.
Sebastian Cruz
sometimes people need to die.
Austin Lee
Yes. I have a fireproof document safe, and I lost the key in a house fire but needed documents out of it for insurance claims (receipts for expensive items, policies for fire insurance, etc)
I was able to pick the lock on it after about 10 minutes of trying.
Matthew Green
was it one of those numbered cylinder locks, or a knob lock? picking a 1-3 digit cylinder lock like on a briefcase isn't very tough, if you the time.
Andrew Rogers
FYI /sec/ on LC has a lockpicking thread iirc