If (FOSS) then {TOSS();}

My point exactly. FOSS will become a dominating monopoly. If perhaps not a centralized one. Which actually makes it worse, because if it were centralized, it would be easier to take down by legal force -- or, if necessary, violent force.

It's not necessarily a matter of low quality. First of all, see : not all foss is made on people's spare time; people (retards) dedicate their life's work to this stuff. Secondly, consider that there is a readily apparent ceiling to the possible quality of software. Combine that with the fact that free software can and does build on itself, and it's easy to see the impending feasibility of creating, with very little effort, flawless software packages that have reached the ceiling of product quality and cannot be improved.

Did a few google searches on the wage offerings of Canonical. They're actually rather competitive with market prices.

>I pity anyone working for Redhat, SUSE, or Canonical. Not only are they all either going hungry, driving themselves crazy with stress by working a real job on top of it all, or sacrificing their Independence as adults and simply mooching off their families
Not at all. They get paid. Because they have jobs. At those companies.

Your google searches are wrong. Google's in on the scam, they own Android remember? They have a vested interest in not being truthful with us in this matter

>Not at all. They get "paid." Because they have "jobs." At those "companies."
haha sure kid

>not all foss is made on people's spare time
When it's not made in people's spare time, that means someone is being paid for it. The software is not free (gratis), it's just that payment is not being done by every user, just by a small handful of very wealthy users (businesses) whose needs are prioritized.

Sounds pretty good, desu

No shit. OP is just some fucking nobody talking out of his ass.

>When it's not made in people's spare time, that means someone is being paid for it.
see:

Isn't the government a monopoly then?

Why the quotes? It's true.

Yes! It is. But unfortunately it's the one and only necessary monopoly to protect the interests of the free market.

I mean it's really not, no one who develops or produces FOSS makes enough money to live (at least not from that alone). It's simply not possible. Statistics to the contrary must be lies, there's no other explanation

Without citation of actual figures, you are claiming that the wages at employees at Canonical, SUSE, and Red Hat are trash. Unless you have some hard data to back this claim up, piss off.

>no one who develops or produces FOSS makes enough money to live
[citation needed]

>Unless you have some hard data to back this claim up,
I do: the fact that the redistribution policy makes livable wages impossible to supply.

Citing: economics and common sense

Okay, so you don't have any actual figures to back up this claim, you are just making it up.
Glad we settled that.

>Okay, so you don't have any actual figures to back up this claim,
I do, and they're in this book

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>All foss is against the free market.
Wrong
>opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause
Whats that? Your precious Fapple OS is based on FOSS software? Wow. It's almost as if you don't know what you're talking about.

That book does not include the wages for employees at Canonical, SUSE, or Red Hat.
Again, you are just making assumptions based on your intro college course.

glassdoor.ca/Salary/Red-Hat-Salaries-E8868.htm?countryRedirect=true

>>opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause
And what's this supposed to prove? What specific part of my argument does this contradict? Because I'm not seeing the contradiction.
>Whats that? Your precious Fapple OS is based on FOSS software?
I'm not seeing a contradiction here either. Proprietary software being based on free software is hardly any proof that free software doesn't hurt the free market. On the contrary, when proprietary software is based on free software, that is quite plainly a SCAR on the free market, showing damage that free software has ALREADY done.

>Is this helpful? The community relies on everyone sharing – Add Anonymous Salary
kek
>using data supplied by commies to prove foss devs aren't commies

>"I think we can all agree that monopolies are bad"
>supports a literal fucking monopoly in his post
Stupid fucking faggot. You what's a commie scam? Not actually owning the platforms you develop on and pay for. Not being able to run an OS I pay for on any hardware I choose is like being told I can't drive my car on certain roads. Not being able to see the source code and work on it is like being told I'm not allowed to pop the hood in my own garage and change my own oil. Fuck you, communist scum. Free software is the future. You have no right to tell me what I can and can't do with something I own.

And by the way, Linux isn't the only open source operating system, Ranjeet. Ever heard of Open Solaris. The macOS base system is also open source. Go fuck yourself.

>FOSS will become a dominating monopoly
Not possible since the nature of FOSS is completely decentralized, you massive homo. FOSS isn't just Linux.
>or, if necessary, violent force
What, you wanna shoot me and take my Ubuntu live USBs? Shut the fuck up you stupid pussy LARPer.

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>On the contrary, when proprietary software is based on free software, that is quite plainly a SCAR on the free market, showing damage that free software has ALREADY done.
wat

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>Free software is evil and wrong. It's actually the opposite of free, because it's an act of war against the philosophy of a freer market
GNU is against the free market. BSD is radically pro-free market. You're clearly too retarded to tell the difference, but they are both FOSS.

Meanwhile, you've yet to show any evidence that contradicts it.

based and corpopilled

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indeed.com/salaries/Senior-Software-Engineer-Salaries-at-Red-Hat

>BSD is radically pro-free market.
In name, perhaps.

>You have no right to tell me what I can and can't do with something I own.
Just because you own the hardware doesn't mean you own its configuration. Intellectual property rights.

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>continuing to supply sources that spout obvious economic impossibilities as facts

>jpg of a book and no link to a paywall free source
disqualified, try again.
>t. still mad AT&T couldn't sue the University for rights to their own work
LMAO virgin detected.

>Just because you own the hardware doesn't mean you own its configuration. Intellectual property rights.
Just because I own my car that means I can't change my own oil in my garage, right? Is that what you're saying, you bolshevik filth? Intellectual property is talmudic kike shit.

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>paywall free
top kek

I wholeheartedly agree. I disagree with your style and phrasing, but you make the same point I've been believing lately.
And I used to be a BSD license hardliner.

Before open source, smart developers could start small companies selling high-quality software as shareware.
With open source, we have dog shit quality software and the same smart developers work as employees for large corporations.

It's really good if you are a 15yo NEET installing Linux for the first time, it's really good if you are Amazon or Google trying to reduce your infrastructure costs, but it makes no sense for developers. In fact, developers have almost zero sense of self-interest. They don't unionize, they're pro immigration of people who reduce their wages, etc. They admire companies like Amazon, Facebook, Google, etc. who actually illegally conspired to reduce their wages.

In fact, that's also why those companies are now increasingly pushing for "diversity" and against meritocracy. The 10x engineers will make about as much as the 0.5x, and it won't be a 10x salary...

>Just because I own my car that means I can't change my own oil in my garage, right?
Rather, you should only be able to do that if that's within the range of intended functions of your car. Which it should be, else it's a shit car. The same can't be said for computers in relation to the functional ability to install FOSS, though, since FOSS is evil.

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OP here, I despise Windows and use Linux exclusively. I am strongly against the Windows tax and the terms of the DMCA. This entire thread has been devil's advocate shishposting.

In other words
>jokes on them i was only pretending
But unironically

>still no link
I'm not buying your textbook, no matter how hard you advertise it, publishanon.
>redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-reports-fourth-quarter-and-fiscal-year-2018-results
>Fourth quarter total revenue of $772 million, up 23% year-over-year, or 18% in constant currency; full fiscal year total revenue of $2.9 billion, up 21% year-over-year, or 20% in constant currency

>Be winfag
>"STOP GROWING SO MUCH, RED HAT"

>tfw developing and producing FOSS software provides me enough money to live from that alone

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but look how many legitimate links to sources that prove FOSS really is destroying our economy we've seen in this thread already! You've enlightened us all, if anything.

>legitimate links to sources that prove FOSS really is destroying our economy
I couldn't supply them because they don't exist. Or, if they do, they are obviously a bunch of big-brother-fatcat BS and I would have balked at the prospect of recommending them under any circumstances, pretending or otherwise.

Right, we all get it. You're allowed to "own" a car but you're not allowed to change the oil yourself. That means you don't own it at all. It means that one centralized company owns the car and that you just rent it. You know that's what happens in North Korea, right? The citizens aren't allowed to own land or property. They lease it from the government generationally. You are supporting the same communist policies that in place in North Korea.

Go on, tell me that selling my land isn't within the "range of intended functions".

>since FOSS is evil
Child-like appeal to emotion.

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I mean, GNU is still commie shit tho right?

Psh yeah obviously. But in a good way. As an unironic socialist, though, I may be biased in saying so.

shows over bud.

You post is a steaming pile of horseshit op. If a bunch of people want to get together and write computer programs for the benefit of anyone who wants to use them, well it's their life to do whatever the fuck they want with. Not yours. Now fuck off.

>shows over bud.
Are you giving up because the evil freetards turned your asshole into ground hamburger with their terrible hate facts?

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So you're not going to actually post any numbers here, you're just going to make assumptions without any actual knowledge of how these companies are run.

bla bla bla linux is bad because is free pay for windows and mac, i swear im not a jew.

>Right, we all get it. You're allowed to "own" a car but you're not allowed to change the oil yourself.
Again, no, your metaphor falls flat here, because changing the oil is something that should be one of the intended functions of a car, but changing the operating system is not something that should be one of the intended functions of a computer system.

At least, that's what I *would* say, if I were still keeping up the charade.

Oy vey, what do you mean goy? Selling the car you "own" isn't an intended function! You have no right to sell that car! You hear me goy?!?! No right!! It'll cut into the profits of the car manufacturers and hurt the economy and I'll lose 5 cents on my stocks! Oy gevalt you better not sell that car! Don't even think about changing that oil yourself you dirty gentile! You'll hear from my lawyer!

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The person you're replying to isn't me, but yes, that's exactly why I'm giving up, you got me. Rather, it would be more accurate to say you exposed my lack of facts. Which it's understandable I didn't entirely prepare, since the opinion I expressed here was not one I actually held. Or rather, I actually do, but I also think the free market should damn well be destroyed anyway and jobs are not really the right way to go about making sure people can live.

Never said I wasn't a jew. I am actually. Not a shill though.

For my response to your post, see, verbatim, the post your post responded to.

Tell you what, faggot. Get prepared, take some notes, and lube up your asshole and then come back tomorrow. You'll get fucked just as hard because you're a brainlet and you're just wrong. Lmao.

Yes, all you can do is repeat the same platitudes because you're wrong. Repeating yourself doesn't make you right. It just makes you look small brained as fuck.

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nice blog

>Tell you what, faggot. Get prepared, take some notes, and lube up your asshole and then come back tomorrow. You'll get fucked just as hard because you're a brainlet and you're just wrong. Lmao.
Why should I? It's plainly obvious I'm no longer motivated to argue this point I never actually believed in (or at least never actually found to be cause for concern).
>Yes, all you can do is repeat the same platitudes because you're wrong.
Well, no, in that particular case all I could do was repeat myself because what I said applied verbatim to his response to it. In other words, his was the bad response, because it used different words to make exactly the same arguments I'd just refuted. And also because it was racist against jews

>his response was bad because I have no retort!
>boo hoo he wuz mean to da joos!
Shut up, cuck. You're done. Show yourself the door.

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>>his response was bad because I have no retort!
You misread. His response was bad because the post it responded to was a fully adequate retort on its own. His response did not expand on the conversation in any way.
>>boo hoo he wuz mean to da joos!
Tell me what's wrong with taking issue with this.

>PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH ISRAEL! I LOVE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY PLEASE LOVE ME MASTERS!

>Never said I wasn't a jew. I am actually.
That explains a lot.

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Again, really not sure how my Jewish ancestry plays into this at all.

>be a jew
>see community enjoying nice things they made
>want to tear it all down
Typical. We hate you because you defend underhanded talmudic shit that destroys societies. Go live in Israel and run Windows there, faggot.

>>see community enjoying nice things they made
>>want to tear it all down
When did I ever say that and mean it? Consider the fact that everything I said that was in support of intellectual property law or capitalism was an elaborate ruse.
>Typical. We hate you because you defend underhanded talmudic shit that destroys societies. Go live in Israel and run Windows there, faggot.
Why would I do such a thing? I'm comfortable where I live, and also I hate Windows and exclusively run Debian and LineageOS.

>muh free market
>the free market isn't allowed to create free stuff though

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And also how is that behavior (that I did not unironically engage in at any point) typical of jews in any way?

I'm back. Hi. Still not OP tho. I was the one with the links. No need to act smug when you showed up late to the party in the first place. Enjoy a good troll. He got us. Admit it.

You cannot refute this:

youtube.com/watch?v=OOIknKVQqdE

This makes you look very much like you are a samefag of me (OP) which makes me suspicious that maybe that was your intention as a way of indirectly counter-trolling me which I find clever and humorous if so

>Software is a service
No it isn't. Your entire premise is flawed. Try harder.

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What, the fact that many people in that council are jews? You're right, I sure can't.
But if you're claiming the converse, that most jews are in or affiliated with that council (which is what you would need to demonstrate, not the other way around, if you wanted to prove that jews have a predilection for global-scale mischief), then I can absolutely refute that claim, and quite easily: I only see less than a hundred people there, and there are several times that many jews in the world.
And, regardless, even if you did prove that jews in general have such a predilection, I know for a fact that I, a single specific individual jew, do not have that predilection, and you can't prove I do.

Imagine being so bourgeois that you want to ban volunteerism because it cuts into profits.
>Software is a service
oh, I see its just a troll thread

FUCK WITH MICROSOFT AND THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN
FUCK WITH MICROSOFT AND THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN
FUCK WITH MICROSOFT AND THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN
FUCK WITH MICROSOFT AND THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN

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You aren't fooling anyone.

You absolute turbojew, there's literally a dimly lit room of jews plotting to subvert the political systems of independent European nations and they want taxpayers to foot the bill. I hope you all get gassed again and again and again until you're all gone. I hate jews so fucking much. Fuck off.

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Sorry, retard.

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>You absolute turbojew, there's literally a dimly lit room of jews plotting to subvert the political systems of independent European nations and they want taxpayers to foot the bill.
Yes, and what percent of all jews (which, as a reminder, is the statistical group you're trying to prove something about) do you suppose they constitute, hmmmmm?

Free markets are horrible, a monopoly by the people for the people is superior.

It doesn't matter. I don't see anyone but jews doing this shit. They do it everywhere they can get a foothold. They do it to Americans, they do it to Poles, they did it to Russians, Estonians, they tried to do it to Finns. Having jews is like having rats or lice. Fuck off, no one wants you. Every fucking jew I've ever met is a piece of shit. And the moment you subversive parasites make your way to Jow Forums you're trying to destroy FOSS.

Israel exists. You have no excuse now. Go home, jew boy.

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>It doesn't matter. I don't see anyone but jews doing this shit.
Yes, but what PERCENT of ALL jews?
If you can't answer that with at least "50," you have no rational grounds to automatically judge any given specific jew as being predisposed to act thus, at least in the absence of further in-context evidence. Which you WOULD have on me, if not for:
>And the moment you subversive parasites make your way to Jow Forums you're trying to destroy FOSS.
Point to where I did this unironically.
Oh wait you can't because I only ever did it ironically

funny your paid products can't provide the same amount of security for anything. so nobody uses them like that.
>hurrdurr look at me post from different ips
pic related

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He is right though. The conspiracy is not a theory. And the video is incredibly damning of Jewish subversion. They even use the term "subversion" and plot the destruction of Europe solely for Jewish interests.

Right about what? That the video proves anything about ALL or MOST jews? Because no, you're wrong, it doesn't.
The rest of what you and he both said about it is solid though.

The only thing you've been right about in this whole thread is jewish subversion. Please stop.

I stopped caring what you think or say when you revealed your identity.
Everyone knows that diaspora jews are vast majority leftist, even you yourself are a socialist by your own definition. It is natural Jewish tendency to support socialism and pro-immigration policies in other people's nations. It is in the diaspora jew's self interest to dilute himself among many other groups.

Here we go again with the talmudic horse shit. I don't care about little petty percentages. I don't care about numbers. I care about what I see, and what I see is jews worming their way into everything I love and ruining it.

>muh not all jews
You want a percentage? 100%. There you go. Every single last jew on the face of the Earth is like this, and you're no exception.

You fuckers flood my country with third worlders, you fuck my nation over through the banks and political system, and you have the fucking audacity to come to come to my cantonese rice mat weaving bulletin board and try to subvert the last hobby I enjoy?

Get gassed, kike.