Why we hate Ubuntu again?

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It's like Linux for babbies

have i told you that i use archlinux yet?

Because Unity was a great DE and since they shelved it for Gnome there is no point in using the flagship distro. All the Ubuntu flavors beat the pants off vanilla Ubuntu now.

Hate gnome, not ubuntu

Plain GNOME is ugly af tho

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Unity was fucking garbage. GNOME is too.

oh yes excuse me sorry... *ahem*....
we hate ubuntu because archlinux is better, have you ever heard of archlinux? archlinux is what i use.

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Corporate owned, also has an app store with non-free software.

java is corporate owned by the worst software company in history, who cares

Oracle?

Fuck off retard zoomer.
I have Gentoo Hardened laptop.

Memory hogg
Spying (can be disabled)

Some people will have too much time for productivity cuz just werks

>Because Unity was a great DE
Fucking hell, people keep saying this after it was ditched. When it was their DE of choice, nothing but complaints

This

>What's minimalistic option

It's too easy to install, which makes linux community open to normies and all this kids whose doesn't see beauty of linux. They often say they're hackers, but all damn thing they did is install ubuntu by simply clicking "next". Ubuntu is a bridge between professional introverted specialists and scum. Ubuntu is the reason why little state named Linux World is slowly rolling in big ass.

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How about a real reason and not meme answers?

>Spying (can be disabled)
Please elaborate.

Because it's spyware.

Canonical is a shit company and I don't want to support their garbage.

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If you call it linux community, you are the normie.

this is why yotld never happens.

Because Jow Forums uses BeOS and BSD. (except the ''Free'' one.)

Why do we want Linux on all desktop?

We dont. We do on desktop of smart people.
If you don't determine Ubuntu linux as linux is your problem.

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Because it works.

Who the hell is "we"?

You and me. All fuckin nerd using nix

This board

uses double amount of RAM on fresh install when compared to a debian fresh install

And who gave you the authority to speak on behalf of others?
Because I don't share your elitist views in this circumstance.

It is literally unethical to try and dissuade people from using FOSS operating systems because you want it to be le genuis sekrit club

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>And who gave you the authority to speak on behalf of others?
Others instead. As a member of linux community I share the voice of it, voice of rationalism.
>Because I don't share your elitist views in this circumstance.
Maybe you're not from us.

Stop projecting, you stupid fag.
We get it, you've been using GNU/Linux for the last 3 weeks since your 15th birthday. You can stop with the retarded edginess.

too much outdated for my taste

Well well well. It's enough of you. Slide to your cave and don't come back.

Because its usable, simple and you can actually use it work.

Some Jow Forums users like there OS's to be complcated and hard to use because for some reason they think it gives them bragging rights about how smart they are when really it just shows they are losers.

Then there are the privacyfags who try so hard to hide the fact that they jack off to loli that it becomes obvious. Just watch, some will try to defend them selfs now, kek.

>not jacking off to legal loli

Explain

This really pissed me off, I liked Unity as a DE. Is there any way to get back that vanilla Ubuntu feel?

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Yep everyone fucking hated Unity when they switched to it.

The Amazon debacle hasn't been relevant since like release 14 honestly. How is privacy an issue with it?

> think it gives them bragging rights about how smart they are when really it just shows they are losers.
Does that mean smarties are losers?

Being able to read the manual or copy commands off of a wiki doesn't make one smart.

He uses arch. Apparently he has convinced himself that he needs bleeding edge software at all times and this somehow effects his productivity and workflow instead of merely stroking his e-peen. If you asked him what old packages in Ubuntu were actually preventing him from doing anything or reducing productivity he will reply with some meme shitpost, possibly with a picture of a smug anime girl.

I love arch Linux!
I use arch Linux with i3wm btw

True. But no thing prohibits copy paste problems solve instructions in ubuntu. Less distro is popular less possible someone finds and solve some specific problem. That means less popular distro you have more you know, cuz there are more specific promlems you solve by your own.

xfce and mate feels pretty vanilla to me, personally i switched to kde

It seems so

the only people hating unity where contrarians

I've been using XFCE since that gnome debacle with Vanilla Ubuntu happened.

I enjoy XFCE, KDE honestly is bloated and contains a whole lot of low quality software. Plasma is very beautiful however.

YAOURT :DDD

>KDE honestly is bloated and contains a whole lot of low quality software.
honestly it's been way better recently, try kubuntu, you'll see

Yaourt is insecure piece of shit.
Trizen or do it manually.
I like the sound of yaourt though.
Sounds like yoghurt

Now the same contrarians are loving it, it seems. Unity (and Mir) was probably more hated than GNOME 3 has been. Can't remember people ever liking it here. Now that Canonical has ditched it, people are praising Unity.

unironically
because it just werks

>Can't remember people ever liking it here.
i did

default ubuntu is shit because foot3
xubuntu is pretty good though. haven't really fucked around with kubuntu

Can you give some numbers? 200MB vs 500MB is really not a big deal.

Windows tier garbage, breaks on upgrades, ppa are crap and software included is old as fuck.
The only sane Linux distro is ARCH.

Just install unity and lightdm in it.
(will need some tuning thought)

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here's your answer

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because gnome is shit

ubuntu is great! just not the gnome version.

Doesn't it collect your data and advertise directly at you and shit? If I wanted that I'd just use windows. I don't hate it, I just don't want more of that type of shit in my life

No. There is a hardware survey during installation, but that's about it.

Because they were accused of doing what Red Hat were actually doing.

The first Ubuntu I used was Hardy Heron. I hate Ubuntu because of the color scheme on Hardy Heron.

* Opt-out telemetry
* Amazon adware

You have to add PPAs for applications that should already be in the main repositories, like they are in Manjaro.
If you want a beginner friendly OS, Ubuntu may have been the king for a long time, but it's not anymore.
I'd argue though that ubuntu can still be used as a stable server os, but why would anyone use ubuntu over e.g. CentOS for that use case.
It simply has no place

No, it means people who pretend to be smart are losers.

Ubuntu always breaks when I upgrade to a newer version.
I prefer rolling release

Because it is yoghurt in french.

Absolutely not

Unity had some intuitive features like the HUD, which allowed you to search through the alt-menus of any GTK program. I really liked it since it helped me transition from Photoshop to Gimp much quicker than I could have by Googling everything.

Also, holding Super to show a quick reference for all the keybinds was genius. Why do other platforms/DE's seriously not do this?

Running it as a Compiz plugin was pure autism tho.

Let's not forget that Ubuntu also is the introduction into Linux for many "specialist introverts". I currently work as a Linux admin, and roll Arch on my personal boxes. I feel very comfortable with the terminal, editing configs, etc and yet, if not for Ubuntu, I would have never been introduced.

For the tech-literate, it's a nice playground to start. It gives you a working system, which you can break, repair, rinse and repeat.

Amazon services are built into the dash. All your searches are passed on to Amazon for the web results section. This behaviour can be disabled in settings tho

Ubuntu is ok but Kubuntu is the best

Just to remind you: Richard Stallman has never installed GNU/Linux

^this^

The world would be a much better place if every normie had Ubuntu shipped on their craptop. Let enthusiasts do what they want, Wincancer (and it's ideals) need to die.

They have had several incidents in their store with viruses and ties to businesses which violated privacy. You needed to be informed to avoid these things. Not hard to be informed, but it puts Ubuntu in a stupid spot. If you want to fight your OS then might as well use win 10. At least it hits the news cycles when Ms breaks the latest telemetry fix. All the other distress you can hide in a cave and update blindly from trusted repositories.

in 4 that arch repo problem. Downloading from random sources isn't trusted. Also plenty of other flavors out there

Improve a lot and you know it

Just fucking install windows 7 and get on with your lives

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I don't hate ubuntu. I think new Lubuntu is a miracle of universe like a 2D Idol or Win98SE and Ubuntu Mate is a pretty good system for a GTK platform.
But I wish that Ubuntu could become a some kind of stable rolling release distro.

What I mostly didn't like about Ubuntu the last time I tried it is the rather non-standard placement of configuration files for a lot of packages. If I install something and look in the regular place in /etc and it ain't there because Ubuntu decided to do it's own thing then that's just annoying. It really is. There's also some less annoying examples of how Ubuntu decides to do it's own thing and ignore standards that work on all other distributions.

>voice of rationalism
You are a massive faggot Jesus Christ

all these contrarians. Everyone hated both ubuntu and unity but when they ditched unity suddenly everyone was in love with it and mad because they switched to gnome

nice 9gag meme XDDD

Was using Kubuntu 18.04 for a while until my Wi-Fi stopped working for no reason. It seemed to be a KDE problem, too. I installed Cinnamon to replace KDE and Wi-Fi came back with no problems.

>I have Gentoo Hardened laptop.
Oh hi Ching Chong, nice English. Ever heard of the letter "a"?

Amazon services have been disabled by default since 16.04, though. And since Ubuntu made the switch from Unity to GNOME with 17.10, Amazon search and integration has been removed from the launcher altogether. The Amazon logo is still there, but it's just a shortcut that opens a browser window with their home page.

Why would I use Ubuntu over Debian testing?

I don't want to uninstall tonnes of pre-installed software that I don't need

This.

>install minimal Xubuntu on my old as hell Acer Aspire with Intel Express 945GMS chipset
>it just werks
>RIP out all unnecessary packages
>install and configure Herbstluftwm
>have sexy, snappy, manual tiling with a minimal footprint
>manage my DE ENTIRELY through hotkeys and CLI
>100MB idle footprint
>it's like I went full autism on an Arch install but with a stable core

I'm vegan

I hate Ubuntu. I immediately lose respect for anyone who runs it, and especially those who advocate it. Here’s why:
Name 20 features, release-for-release or year-for-year that have not come from Redhat. Redhat basically runs the show when it comes to Linux. This includes things like NetworkManager, Gnome, Xorg, GCC, glibc, LVM, KVM, kernel, file systems et al. Redhat has developers making significant contributions to the entire FOSS software stack upstream.
Ubuntu on the other hand pulls most of the heavy weight packaging from Debian with each release. They then perform minor patching and testing. It generally lags behind Fedora by a release or two in parts of the software stack. I never see @ubuntu or @cannocial email addresses in upstream changelogs.
So tell me again, how exactly does Ubuntu innovate? They even struggle to release a new theme with each release, and artwork is about the only original thing in Ubuntu.
Yes, Ubuntu is stable because they are standing on the shoulders of giants. Most of the hard work is hashed out before they ever import software into their repositories. This is fine, and what FOSS is all about, but I prefer to be in with the leaders rather than the followers.
What really irks me and what has really brewed my hatred are Ubuntu users. They seem to think Ubuntu is responsible for all that is good in the FOSS world. I have just proven how false this is. In my experience, Ubuntu support mechanisms (IRC, mailing lists, forums) are much less helpful than the alternative.
If you want a nice desktop distro, run Fedora or OpenSUSE. If you like control, run Gentoo. If you need stability, run RHEL/CentOS or Debian. But please, don’t feed the idiot magnet that is Ubuntu!

This might be the wrong thread, but I just installed Ubuntu on my PC, it's an ancient machine and I needed an easy linux distro to work with, and somebody told me Ubuntu was the simplest one to use. So I installed it, attempted to run the set up for my wireless adapter, and I soon found out that linux can't run .exe files without wine. So this is where I'm stuck. I put Wine on a USB flash drive, and now I'm having a hard time installing it so that I can finally install my Wireless network adapter. I really need your help Jow Forums... I thought it would be easy and my homework is due soon and I need to do it