/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Why do you people freak out about the first post? Again Thermaltake Versa H15 and Fractal Define Mini are both great cases but his cooler is also too tall for them,162 mm.

Anyone reinstalling Windows 7 consider biting the bullet now that Windows 10 LTSC 2019 is out. You can find unpozzed versions easily.

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Are intenso reliable ssd's?

do I have a bad sensor or all of software measurements are unreliable?
I just thought this was kinda funny but now i'm starting to get a bit worried.

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bump

My laptop just died and I'm thinking about building a desktop this time, how much does part prices fluctuate? Should I wait until Black Friday deals, or should I start buying parts now before they sell out?

evga

wait for black friday and cyber monday. literally 3 weeks away

>poozen
>pooga
>poolaris
>pooripper
>APOO
>wait for 7nm poovi

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Read user reviews, this is usually a good indicator of a product's reliability.

People are too stubborn to change. But change is inevitable.

more than seven and a half million degrees celsius. sounds about right

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Best quiet cooler for a 2600x? I know Noctua and Bequiet have good models, but they are also quit pricey. Is there any other cooler that is similarly quiet and gets the job done?

I mostly need a large chunk of CPU processing power (aerodynamic simulation so multi thread performance is fine) but it would be nice to do some modest gaming too, how silly would it be to buy a refurb HP Z820 with dual E5-2680 V2's, 64GB of DDR3 RAM and throw a 1060 6GB in there?

Is shucking still a thing?

*Z620 with Dual E5-2690 v1

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>I can't oc my ram for shit

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>Wtf am I doing wrong? I have never set any overclock.
>CPU-Z says core voltage is 1.352.
That's normal stock ryzen. 2600 A shit runs hot while stock as well.

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How is this motherboard? Im gonna be installing an i5 6400 and gtx 1060 onto it

I think I'm done with my build. Is there anything obvious I'm missing that could mess me up?
pcpartpicker.com/list/p2brP3

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that feel when ryzen 2600 6 core 12thread on solder at 4.0GHZ runs as hot as intel 6 core 12thread at 5GHZ with cum

What's a good sub-$100 ATX case? The MasterBox TD500L looks fine enough, but idk about its noise levels.

>runs about as hot as a 2600 while being 1GHZ faster

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wat

pcpartpicker.com/list/mD7dtg

>2600 isn't on the pic
hahahaha

loose TRas by 2, and trc accordingly, maybe also incresing by 2 or 4: 14-14-14-30-46
then start working on the secondaries, trrds could be a little more loose at that freq and primaries (readjust tfaw by a mininum of 4x trrds, maximum 8x trrds), tcke at higher freqs could get bumped up to 9 as well.

Also be a little more conservative, try out some good timings at a decent freq and make sure that they're safe, e.g., 3200mhz with at least a 400% pass, 16 threads / 750mb each, on hci memtest and thern work your way up.
for 3466, cl 14 seems a little greedy.

anyone tried the Seasonic s12II 520W? my other option is the Corsair CX550M

Thanks

65C under synthetic torture stress test bullshit like p95 sfft etc. isn't hot for a CPU

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atx is gay and memed, mATX best, mini itx close second.

>R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale
What is the max price these are worth?

i paid 180 for mobo and 2400g used so dont take my word for it. i wouldn't pay more than 2x what the 2200g is worth, simply not worth it. for that money you are better off with the 2600 and a gpu.

why do you keep asking if your question has already been answered in older threads

>Also be a little more conservative,
????????????????
The thing I posted ran 4 clean passes of memtest86 over the course of 3 hours.

>loose TRas by 2, and trc accordingly, maybe also incresing by 2 or 4: 14-14-14-30-46
>then start working on the secondaries, trrds could be a little more loose at that freq and primaries (readjust tfaw by a mininum of 4x trrds, maximum 8x trrds), tcke at higher freqs could get bumped up to 9 as well.
why

Its my first time asking this, maybe the acceptable discounted price should be added to the OP if this is really a common question.

Does anyone know what kind of deals to expect from micro center coming up this black friday? I'm looking to upgrade and hope prices come down a bit then but I haven't built a system in like 5 years so I don't know what to expect if they have any good deals or not.

Also does the nh-d14 use the same mounting hardware for 1155 and 1151? I plan on reusing mine and don't know if it'll just fit.

>mention that ryzen 2600 isn't on the pic
>he posts another pic without it.

also to add to that
>greedy
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I plan to further tighten the timings on that at the current volts and I am also thinking about getting 13-13-13-13-26-40 3466 1.46/1.47 volts since my RAM cooling is pretty good.
Under torture test the 1.36V yields 37C after 30 min. And 41C at 1.42 volts after 30 min of stress testing.

if only gaming, and much cheaper then 8400, if productivity, then 2700, if they both around the same price point, then 2700.

I can get access to a lightly used Palit GTX1050 2GB for 100eur. Any opinions on this.

I am also thinking of getting a R5 2600 which would be ~190 euro.

What do you think of my CPU to GPU price ratio -- 190 CPU to 100 GPU. Should I change this?

I am only interested in light gaming starting off and would be happy with medium-high settings.

PS. The GPU is from a friend and not from somebody I don't know. So I trust him when he says its not been used heavily or for long.

pretty sure 1155, 1156, 1150 and 1151 are all the same mounting just they changed the pin layout to piss everyone off so they couldn't upgrade their cpu's only.

well I'm upgrading from ivy bridge so I kind of expect to have to buy a new mobo.

yea but they could've been cool and went from ivy bridge to coffee lake on the same boards.

yeah the socket change every generation is something I remember when I built my system like 6 years ago. At least some things never change.

true statement

Under the "avoid cheap models" section, does "Gigabyte Wf" mean only models that have windforce in their name - or anything that is using a "windforce" brand cooler? How's GV-N108TGAMING-11GD?

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so I just bought this build and I understand that it's pretty entry level but I been having some issues with games I hoped to run better, like batman arkham knight and rise of the tomb raider. I saw videos of this hardware running these games on medium-high at 30-40 fps on 1080p and I'm lucky if they run at 25-30 on 1440x900 with low settings. I'm wondering if there's a setting that I'm missing or a feature that isn't enabled that would give me better performance. or if this build is straight up garbage.

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>gt 1030
lol

my ram timmings at 3200 are 18 20 20 20 38, what can i change to make them tighter?

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>"Bu-- b-- but AMD is just as backdoored as Intel!"
>No Ryzen bestsellers in authoritarian utopia of China

Really makes you think.

>2200G+GT1030
nani

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what's wrong with it

what

You may want to make a bug report on the hwinfo forums to see if your board is supported properly. Considering it has a water sensor it's a high end board and you can RMA is worse case scenario.

If I had to guess most of the readings are accurate and occasionally there's an incorrect reading hence they crazy min/max. Still if your vcore is ever hitting 1.5 V that's reason to worry.

The Vega chip on the 2200G outperforms the GT1030. Only an idiot would put them together.

2200g igpu = gtx1030
u or who ever u nought it from spent money on a gpu for no reason

lmao what a fucking retard

my 1080 non-g1 windforce card was a great card in both performance and noise. my auros xtreme 1080ti is running just as great. I'd say youtube reviews between cards for noise because OCing a silicon lottery anyways ... then get which ever one appeals to you the most in what you're looking for

also it seems that the mobo is a b320 chip which wont overclock so no matter wat u do u wont reach that level of performance in those games unless u upgrade mobo. sell gpu, get better mobo so you can properly overclock it. latter on buy a better gpu.

>How's GV-N108TGAMING-11GD?
Probably one of the better cooled cheapo 1080ti models.

also please tell me ur trolling, no dual channel ram, ram at 1200mhz

lmao disgusting
get an R5 APU instead

Hows this looking, I already owned the case, monitor and GPU.

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>1080ti
>1440p
>60Hz

yea its widescreen and all but it just seems like a waste when you're paying $1000 for 60hz

You should be able to OC your current memory to at least 3000 CL16, but hopefully higher.

As a general note, it makes no sense to buying "the best CPU" only to gimp it and make it worse than a lesser CPU would be with fast RAM.
2700X with 3466 CL14 will easily match the 8700k with 3000 CL16 RAM while having 2 more cores for non-gaming shit.

Nice result.
I think you could maybe get lower tCL or frequency to 3533 by slowing the tRCDWR, though. Not much reason not to go up to 1.45v to achieve that either unless you're just happy with the current result.

For streaming on a single box, 2700X is an easy choice.
If you need more, then build whatever you want like a 2600/X for or 8700 for the gaming PC itself and an R7 1700 powered HTPC to use as a dedicated encoder (search Jow Forumstwitch or youtube for more info on a dedicated encoding/production PC). Or you could go 2950X to do a higher end single PC to do gaming and production on the one machine simutaniously.

Best bait I've seen in weeks.

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I mean 1440p ultrawide is still pretty intensive, its really not that overkill. Plus my next monitor will be the same resolution with just a higher refresh rate.

need help choosing an ultrawide monitor for my setup. I'm stuck trying to decide if G-Sync is worth the mark up or not. I have a i5-4670k overclocked to 4.2 GHz, a GTX 1070 (it's also overclocked but I can't remember to what at the moment) and 16GB DDR3-1600 RAM. Currency is USD, and this is obviously for gaming. I do play shooters but it's not exclusively what I play. Any help would be appreciated

>pay expensive RAM just to have a more expensive build just to "tie" with a 8700k
(lol

Chinese are smart not to fall for the AMD meme...and they even make those chips

>ultrashort
No. Rethink this and make sure you're absolutely sure. Most people regret this choice.
>gsync
No, not unless it's with a 2080Ti. Otherwise you're better off getting Vega56 and Freesync for way cheaper.
>4670k
Start by getting a CPU which can actual handle 60fps minimums.
>1070
Not enough to drive a 3440x1440 monitor.

Cost works out the same, and the 2700X is faster still on all the non-gaming shit.
Good job just mistakenly reinforcing the point for me out of your stupidity.

right? i need my fucking 2x16 b-die

>Most people regret this choice.
Really? I bought mine a few years back and cant see my self using any other type of monitor

Opinions on getting a lighly used GTX1050 for 100euro off a friend.

>can't see myself using any other type of monitor
Really...?
21:9 doesn't match the ~5:4 that your vision is. DPI tends to be low at their usual sizes. Not as useful for productivity as multiple monitors.
And you're just giving up 720 lines that you'd gain with 4K.

But yeah, I didn't say EVERYONE. I know some people like it. Aesthetically, on the desk, it looks okay I guess. But it's not useful nor really objectively good.

i can buy 1060 3gb in US for $130 on CL so doesnt sound v good man

I have a gtx 770 and a haswell i5. I was going to upgrade my gpu to a 1060 since the mining crash made prices reasonable. But if rtv is a thing should I wait for the 2160 year.

I mean I mostly use it for gayming and music production and both are extremely enjoyable to do on an ultrawide. Unless you're buying a 1080p ultrawide you shouldnt have any issues with the dpi either

it's the perf boost algo that makes it hit those voltages. I've read it many times that they're perfectly safe milsecond spikes but I still don't like'em and I usually turn perf boost off entirely. I was just testing some stuff with default options, evrything on auto.
But yeah, I had some issues yesterday with this board, I thought I bricked it, user error and now I'm just paranoid with every little aspect being slightly off. I was freaking out about the q-code 24, memory related, which is fine but I also don't like it (solution is reseat and rearrange the mem sticks, hard clear cmos (battery off, 15 sec) but I'm postponing doing so. I'm tired of taking it all down and putting it back on..

Is a i7 3700 bottlenecking my RTX 2080 or will there not be any real difference in performance from upgrading cpu?

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yes.

Your lucky in the US, in Ireland we have a much tougher time getting components.

pcpartpicker.com/list/7dFxkd

V2.0, less shitty. Some user told me get that mobo and chassis tho i haven't into why yet.

Still don't know if i need wifi and gpu.
2400g to play all senran kaguras, civ5, starcraft 2, lighter non 3d Stan games, edit video, make 2d animation.

My craptop died this weekend so i need a new machine, doing this shit from the phone is infuriating. Have 3 hdd not in use, oldest from 2009 so i believe all are SATA

And when did the SSD bandwagon start?

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ah, I also ran hwinfo sensors a bit later, with prime95 running 16T, those readings had nothing unusual. I had it on for about half an hour after I started seeing those results from hw "monitor". So I dunno even if I should freak out or if this another non-issue that i'm just being paranoid about.

Seems like a mediocre deal unless you have really high tax rates making your parts cost a lot more than, say, France or Germany.

>2080Ti can't even handle 1080p 60fps with raytracing
>RTX 2060
>all you need for 240p raytracing!
Makes sense.

If not overclocked, yeah probably so at 1080p. Why don't you investigate the framegraphs and usage of either and see?

Responded in the previous thread. You didn't fix any of the issues.