>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superseded by 7nm CPUs next year >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best overall and not a massive disappointment like the 9900k >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>not making sweet love to your GPU for maximum GAINS You gay or something?
Jack Lopez
We dont know m8, could it be an issue with the gpu?
Nathan Taylor
you did very good for gaming, enjoy.
Lincoln Bailey
>pcpartpicker.com/list/DbtbGG Thoughts? This will be my first build. Most of this is from one of the build guides, but it looks like it fills my needs at a reasonable price. I swapped in the 1070ti because it wasn't that much more expensive, but is it worth it? It also takes up 3 I/O plate slots, but is that something to I need to worry about? Is 16GB RAM too much?
Lastly, does anybody have any alternative case suggestions? I may want to add a disc drive in the future, so one that can accommodate that would be cool.
John King
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard M.2 is a SET of form factors which are NOT mutually compatible in the slightest. The easiest thing to generalize is that WiFi M.2 only fits in a WiFi M.2 slot, which I believe is E-key.
>Graphics cards Wait 2 weeks for RX 590 to come out, Bitcoin to crash further, mining complexity issues to set in, holiday sales to hit, and then buy a new card. It's retardetry to recommend buying graphics right now - prices will not normalize until the holidays. If you do, buy a cheapie that will hold you over for a month or two.
cause it's a budget cpu you fucking retard stop your constant whining about your shitty 2600
Xavier Ortiz
Except, the graphics settings are at their lowest, the GPU is OCed as far as it stable and reasonable and my old 7 year old intel system provided more consistent, though lower framerate with the same GPU. After getting memed about ryzen smoothness and muh 4 core isn't enough, and those threads really help, I expected better frametimes in the lows, not worse.
Adam Foster
>cause it's a budget cpu you fucking retard stop your constant whining about your shitty 2600 So we agree that intel is the only good choice for gaming then? K case closed I guess.
Easton Reed
just curious, why did you modify the timings?
Benjamin Cox
*2 shekels have been deposited to your account*
Jacob Foster
(-_-(-_-)-_-)
Jason Flores
I'll install siege and try for myself tonight. All I can say for sure is that I'm getting seemingly better performance in witcher 3 using the same gpu on my new build, and I also am using bdie ram (3200 cas14), only I havent overclocked anything yet. I'm surely getting framerate dips because I'm running my settings high, but none of the dips are low enough or long enough to call it a stutter imo.
Asher Parker
Unless AMD guarantees 7 year driver support for their cards then I won't buy one. Not after what they did to the 4,5 and 6K series.
Landon Bennett
>bring up the cpu sucks, show proof >BAH, it's just a shit cpu, fuck off >okay then it's a shit cpu then >AMD shills flare up I guess it's hard when you have to both make the ryzen out to be perfect and great at everything and at the same time have zero responsibility behind your product.
Thanks man I appreciate your help. Be sure to use Fraps to record the benchmark frametimes. Just be sure to lower the visual settings to lowest and to keep the fps limit at least 144fps.
Your data is worthless until you post another graph that pits it against a $150 Intel CPU.
Tyler Sullivan
I wont get over it. I will either fix this at some point through sheer magic, or I will use those 12 threads for the only thing they are good for and post on Jow Forums to save any other people form falling into the same misfortune as me. As far as all emprical evidence and tests show to me all the ryzen praise are a fucking meme right now, I will be sure to let people know.
>r-ryzen is smooth >yeah well it's more stuttery than a 7 year old intel, though it has higher average fps >p-post it vs 150$ intel cpu pathetic.
Owen Robinson
>OP says to buy Ryzen >anons say Ryzen is shit I'm got confused again
There's different ryzens to buy. One is good one is bad. Just like there are different Intel CPUs to buy. You wouldn't buy a core i3 today
Xavier Hughes
>p-post it vs 150$ intel cpu >pathetic. Why? For all you know it could be better than an equally priced Intel alternative. Do you realize that you spent more money on your RAM than your CPU?
Jeremiah Barnes
how do I benchmark frame timings without buying any games?
They're only good for form factor. In exchange you're paying more money and worse cooling.
Brody Campbell
which ever one you didn't buy. unless you buy all of them they will tell you "no that other one is the good one"
Parker Murphy
>no performance metric insight wow so impressive, look at that low cpu usage post some frametime graphs. But to be honest, if you are happy with it, good for you user.
Wyatt Watson
that's her uncle
Cooper Young
idk what is that
also i game rarely hence the R9
Jason Lee
Best way to build a PC with 400 euros?
Brayden Howard
Will there ever be a 4k, 144Hz FreeSync monitor?
Jaxson Garcia
What specifically? The largest benchmark diferince I could find was 7zip where it's 20% better.
what part of europe are you from? what do plan to do with your pc?
Isaac Bennett
How low can GPU prices be expected to drop?
Camden Ramirez
Programming and some solid works. Ireland
Daniel Hill
no.
Bentley Garcia
Locked 9th gen when?
Evan Wilson
is the Sapphire AMD R9 280X Toxic edition a good match for a ryzen 3 2200G? or what is the cheapest recommended card for this chipset?
Adam Sanders
>what is the cheapest recommended card for this chipset? Just get 2400g 4c/8t and use igpu
Liam Wright
>2600x >B450 motherboard >not just getting a 2600+ literally any X470 Parentboard (>using "motherboard" in ) >crucial at that price when you can get samshit for a few $ more >PSU??? >1070Ti at that price when the 1080 Armor is $499 on Amazon right fucking now why are you a homosexual?
>base 3.9 >current 4.20 Nani the fuck also disclose voltages you faggot
Ian Ortiz
>2600x is more than enough for gaming >msi b450 boards are better than their x470 boards >mx500 are as good as an 860 evo
Noah Ortiz
Workstation, do this instead: 2700/x
any motherboard over 100 but less than 170
Any 3000mhz ram
1070ti, or vega 56. 1080 is a waste of $100 over a 1070ti
Gaming:
8600k
Same as before for MB
Same for ram
1070ti, 1080ti, if on a gpu budget, 1060 6gb if you can find for less than 210 or if really on a gpu budget, 1050ti if less than $110
Wyatt Roberts
>2600+x470 That would be more expensive, what's the gain? >Crucial vs samshit It's the exact same, and the crucial is cheaper >Armor Opinion discarded
Austin Baker
Used 1070ti or used vega 56? I aiming for maximum kikery and if I have to spend much more than $250 burger I'll just opt for a brand new rx580/590 instead
For some reason my server's motherboard refuses to boot without a GPU installed. My spare R9 270 uses 25 W just sitting there doing nothing, which will cost £25/year in electricity.
Are there any cards out there that would use less power and pay for themselves in a couple of years? The cheapest GT 1030 is £65 and apparently uses 8 W when idle so that'd take 4 years to pay for itself. The low end Radeons are OEM only, so I guess I'll have to look for a used card?
>getting a higher-priced processor for shittier b450-tier VRMS >literally a 500gb samshit SSD for $86 right now >Armor >Opinion discarded >I base my opinion on reviews of the 1080ti model where they slapped a 1080ti PCB with a 1080 cooler, where the PCB quite literally overshoots the cooler by at least an inch Retard
Did you have stutters too with everything at stock?
Nathaniel Myers
Need a new SSD and have a choice: New 860 EVO 500GB or Used 960 EVO 500GB
Both are 100 bucks so yeah. I will mainly use it for gaming and editing/moving around 4k video files. I kinda want the 960 for NVMe but idk if buying a used SSD is a good idea.
Dylan Gray
There are x470s with even shitter vrms than the tomahawk, you can't just make that blanket statement.
Ian Cruz
So don't get VRMlet mobos?
Asher Jenkins
get the 1070ti gamers sell used gtx cards, miners sell used vega cards
David Peterson
Why the fuck does everyone's 'recommendations' just reduce to 'buy a more expensive item'. If I had the money for a more expensive mobo, ssd, and gpu, I would have fucking picked them, or at least gotten bdie ram.
Carter Murphy
you have no idea what you're talking about
Connor Wright
I need a PC for 3d modeling and gaming but the modeling is more important. I'll wait for the cyber monday sales to see if any of the parts will have a better price because I set my budget to around € 1300. Will this setup work or should I use different parts?
