Is Tor secure if you stay within the network?

what do you need (((Tor))) security for?

People who think this way don't deserve to call themselves technology enthusiasts. Stop rotting your brain with that crap.

i have some creepy tastes in porn, but nothing even approaching illegal. just gross and most likely unsanitary.
i just don't trust anybody any more. not google, not the government, not my isp, nobody.

I am sending and receiving sensetive information you asshole.

>Tor is used for shit besides illegal services
>technology enthusiast
It's a shitty browser and security is a meme nowdays. Just accept it.

Lick my ass you fucking retard, tor is vital for getting information to and from shithole countries

Run the node on other computer that has two network cards and no routing (or bridging) so you can isolate your pedo machine behind it.

Requires almost none know how compared to the amount of tinfoilness gained.

Note: network time updates and such don't work for the pedo machine.

Still doesn't make it a good browser.

I'm sure you are.

Why would I want to prove myself to some random online?

>It's an axe, we use it for cutting
>YEAH WELL IT'S A SHITTY SPOON

>2018 use Tor for some illegal shit
>FBI keeps full logs of your encrypted Tor traffic
>2021 FBI deploys secretly developed quantum decrypter, decrypts your old traffic
>go to jail for looking at illegal pictures 3 years ago
>2022 prisons are overflowing with millions of torpedos and tordrugdealers
>yfw you outgrew cp in 2019
>parole in 2036 and Apple owns the internet

A shitty browser is still a shitty browser brainlet. There are much better .onion browsing solutions than Tor. Your logic is like of a fucking 13 year old.

Just buy a VPN, there you are safe.

lol

they catch drug dealers mainly through the sites, as the owners have shit opsec and poorly configured servers.

good thing I dont use it for that
also, good thing the FBI/CIA/NSA can fuck off in my country

the only reason dark web dealers get caught is the postal service rats them out and they don't mix their bitcoins so the feds can trace the wallets to people

Tor isn't a browser. Tor browser (alone) is indeed kind of shit, better to isolate the whole system

is Tails OS safe?

it this to make sure that all traffic is routed through tor? sort of a brainlet here
>he thinks tor is just a browser

It does tho

yes. not the best though.

you might have misconception of anonymity and that absolute privacy is even achievable on the internet, you should watch ellie the computer guy - he goes a bit indepth on this subject and unlike 90% of gee he has had actual networking jobs and certifications

Tor is only good for buying drugs online.

except 90% are scamms and you still get fucked by authorities if you are behind meme proxy's

>it this to make sure that all traffic is routed through tor?
Yes because you only expose the SOCKS port and don't setup any real routing. "TORifying" requires a little know how where you intercept traffic.

have you been in prison for the last 7 years?
also you are already in penta-botnet hfgl

And pirate bay.

Dream Market is like the Amazon for drugs. You're backed by escrow and you can filter out scams by the amount of successful escrow transactions.

Besides if you take proper opsec, the authorities will never catch you. Your personal info is PGP encrypted and you can't trace mixed crypto.

>he's a scatman scoobie oobie doobie scoobie

see ya in a week user

You mean in 2 days, my sour og is arriving.

What is the best then?

Do you get it delivered to a abandoned house or what?

why would you do that?

That just raises even more suspicion. Your mail man knows his mail routes and who lives where.

Isn't sending it to your address in your name more risky?

This only started happening en masse after the Silk Road trial and the evidence for how the agent determined it was Ulbricht is yet to surface.

Why do cianiggers always post this same reply as soon as any thread about Tor is made?

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i had stuff sent to my workplace, a small office of about a dozen people, addressed to a fictitious name. I usually received the mail during that time, and I would have simply denied knowledge if anything ever went wrong. Nothing ever went wrong.

Less risky than giving fake names to addresses nobody lives at.

Even if you do get caught, police can't prosecute you unless they have evidence you exchanged money for drugs. Crypto can't be linked back to you if mixed in a tumbler and your info is PGP encrypted, they can't break the encryption unless they have your public key (they can't legally access this unless they have a search warrant). At this point they would rather go after the person selling the drugs than the one buying the drugs.

There are only a dozen people in your office. You're probably the only one who uses tor. Everyone who has ever read an article on tor, used tor, read the linux journal, etc is on a list. It wouldn't be very hard for investigators to suspect you and try and set up a sting.

You're right. I didn't say my system was infallible, just that, in my own mind at least, felt more comfortable than having it mailed to my home.

>2021
>quantum decrypter.

I think quantum technology will take longer than that. And FBI will store my files for 3 years, and use their quantum whatever, just to send to jail some random pedo? What a waste of time.

>implying drug dealers are professional about anything
If you use Tor, a secure messaging service, and get payments by Monero, then they can only catch you on fuckups IRL, not on the internet.

you're right. government agencies never waste time. How silly of me .

qubes with whonix

no point in going through that trouble when whonix and tails exist to do just that for you.

that's because they used parallel construction.

All men are pedophiles by the standards of modern feminism.

If the girl has baby making hips, she's ready. I'm sorry that I can't keep my biological inclinations in check.

grass on the infield? PLAY BALL!

Old enough to go to the store, old enough to get bred.

because they're projecting.
also, because they're trying to cover their tracks dispensing chaff while everyone's posts are snooped here by CIA.

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pizza?

Dat dat dibby da doo

NPC OS user detected

Nothing is 100% secure even if you have good OPSEC practice. But it's secure enough if you are a nobody that is not on any wanted list.

>everyone's posts are snooped here by CIA
damn, the cia is a lot shittier than i thought. they're wasting their time monitoring this uzbekistanian corn farming board.

mah, um, needs k?

freenet has better inner network than tor imo, its build in mind with that, freenet is also more secure

Everyone who's been caught through Tor has been through their real IP leaking due to fuckups. If you use Tor properly you're fine, the only problem is doing that on long term basis - and large scale if you run a service - is difficult. That's not even taking into account the irl potential to fuck up.

Do you mean not to use any nodes that are in the jurisdiction of the five eyes nations? May be good advice. I can't see Russia bending over backwards to assist any five eyes nations in any sort of investigations.

You should get run over because you glow in the dark

it's really not that difficult, people are just retarded.
>qubes whonix
>security slider on high
>pc used purely for tor
>use separate identities
>keep your mouth shut
no attack surface

Yeah, this.

Wouldn't they be restricted by ISP IP logs though? ISP's have no incentive to store IP logs any longer than legally required which varies from country to country.

Wow thanks for the horrible advice Mr FBI man.

thedickinsonpress.com/news/north-dakota/3885239-predators-police-online-struggle

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/man-jailed-indefinitely-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives-loses-appeal/

canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2017/2017oncj729/2017oncj729.html

as opposed to tor? dont make me laugh

Tor isnt perfect but it hasn't been completely compromised like tor. i2p has a better inner network than Tor and Freenet.

Only if you set yourself as root.

I meant compromised like freenet. Feds run freenet nodes and pwn people.

freenet isnt compromised, retards will get caught no matter what. still, its harder to get caught in freenet because of the way it works

feed also run tor nodes, the difference is when you connect to some server its almost 100% its a nsa server, this doesnt happen in freenet, in fact, you can open webpage and dont connect to anyone if you already had this site in your datastore, no one knows you visited that site at that time. everything else is woking like in tor, ie nodes, but in freenet everyone is a node and there are many more nodes than feeds nodes. freenet is safer than tor, its a fact

isps sell user data. that's a huge incentive.

provide evidence of 3 letter agencies owning a significant amount of tor nodes.

Why not?

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provide the same for freenet, you cant because theres no such, oh wait, there are much more busts by feeds on tor than freenet, i wonder why

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Yes you fuckin can it's linked directly above. Read the court document. There is actually evidence in this very thread of LEA's running freenet nodes whereas there is no such evidence for Tor.

because feeds run nodes for everything, even i2p, you must be retarded if you think they dont monitor the biggest drug/cp network in the world 24/7

based and redpilled

I'm sure they do, but I'd sure as hell trust one that hasn't been proven in court to have been successfully compromised by law enforcement agencies to charge and convict someone of a crime than one that hasn't. If you search that Canadian court document database you will find only one or two mention of Tor and one was a cop who learned of tails on a cyber crime course and decided to use it to download some illegal material and was caught in person by his wife, also a cop, who turned him in, and another was a guy who shared stuff on social media to a guy and told him he got it off of Tor. That's a whole lot different than LEA's actively running nodes to catch people as described in the court document above. Judges in the U.S. were tossing out cases against people caught in the largest Tor bust, and iirc that was a Firefox JavaScript exploit that only affected people using an older Tor browser. The other iirc the FBI refused to disclose how they caught the people (probably an NSA zero day they wouldn't expose) and judges were tossing out the cases. I've never seen anything on i2p, but it probably hasn't been a big enough target yet.

ah, so you don't have evidence.

Yeah no evidence for Tor or i2p, but actual evidence above for freenet, yet somehow freenet is more secure.

did you even read your evidence? they knew about him and used that knowledge to target him, feeds had nodes running around him and he was directly connected to their nodes, they knew about him before using freenet

They didn't know about this guy:
>"A child-porn investigation focused on Rawls when the authorities were monitoring the online network, Freenet."

>Five eyes
The eternal anglo

dont be so happy, statistically you are more likely to get caught using tor than freenet

there is no discrete answer in security, you can never be 100% sure.

Real pedo use social media