/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

looks like 3dprinted to me

>Budget
No more than $125
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Brown or equivalents if they are good
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Would like it, but not mandatory
>Previous/current keyboards
None mechanical, some basic membrane board

Thinking about this: amazon.com/dp/B01D3BDN60/?tag=pcpapi-20

Is it any good? Or is there a cheaper equivalent board?

I got the case printed by crystalhand on rebbit (also has a gh account). He includes the pro micros, diodes, and jacks at a decent enough price (such that getting them somewhere else would end up being more expensive due to shipping costs). Switches, keycaps & wire you just get from wherever you want.

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>RGB
ewww
I'd get a leopold with MX clears instead
mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3549
there is also a white version if that diddles your pickles
If you do want a backlight then get a ducky one with MX clears
mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3971

>$270 to get a planck set
You can't make this shit up

It's all I'll ever need to be honest.

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Friendly reminder that RGB isn't bad unless the manufacturer is using it as a way to markup the price

Yea, but it's bad because it's ugly.

I'm an adult!

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i got ergodox-ez and a uTron, the later easily wins for thumb buttons. They're positioned where the thumb naturally rests. Two buttons per thumb is enough and only requires bending a thumb a little bit. More keys needs uncomfortable thumb acrobatics and stretching in the hand.

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I don't find the 1u keys on the manuform thumb cluster all that hard to reach to be honest. I guess if someone has small hands that might be a problem, but there are modifications to make the thumb cluster smaller.

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What type? I might

i can only bend the thumb along one axis (towards the hand and away from it) without feeling strain. Moving the thumb on another axis and I can feel the strain right away. Moving the thumb upwards feels okay, but hard to place any keys there.
Down and away from the hand feels bad and strains.

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If you know anything about clojure I'd like to see how you'd mod the thumb cluster.

>hey guys
>I just wanted to remind you that I use colemark, the superior typing layout

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To be fair it's not hard to be better than qwerty.

don't know clojure but use this for thumbs
left: space, tab
right: shift, enter

Any rubber dome ten key less boards you guys can recommend?
I've literally searched the entire Internet and back.

So guys, recently I bought this little fucker and I'm looking to get a Cherry MX brown switch keyboard.

My main concerns are keycap production quality.

Double shot pbc, laser etched key characters (if possible to obtain), and materials used.

As stupid keyboard bitches, which manufacturers typically produce the highest quality keyboard? I'm concerned about materials and production techniques, not looks. Recommendations based on experience?

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Well it's Filco so it won't wear out, it's Cherry MX Brown which I like and it's PBT which still haven't gotten shiny so why mess with perfection?

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There's no such thing as pbc keycaps.

anyone know if it would be comfortable for the iris layout to be moved up a row (swap the number row for a more traditional bottom row)

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It gets better, you have to wait 6 or more months to get the set.

>Estimated ship date is Apr 8, 2019 PT.
By then I'd forget I even ordered the set.

fug

Topre if you have the monies
HP, Lenovo and Dell all make TKL keyboards if you don't want any gaymer looking ones

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Leopold makes the best stock keyboard you can buy

Got my halo trues the other week, tried holy pandas and they feel lovely. Gonna spend the weekend building and lubing

Doubleshot PBT > Dyesub PBT > Doubleshot ABS > Laser Etched PBT >>>> Laser etched ABS > Pad Printed anything
POM is as good at PBT as well, but good luck finding a POM keycap set

so is this what you use to type usually?

Some day I'd like to see a typing demo on this board.
I see it posted all the time but I can't imagine what it looks like in use.

luckily there are. it's a bit sad tho that you're too retarded to figure out how to search videos on youtube

I find this very rude as you assumed I actively cared enough to bother searching for it.

I find it very funny that you cared enough to make these posts, even though it takes less effort to look up a youtube video.

What is the cheapest best value pure black mechanical keyboard?

>without blacklight/led
>medium spring/black linear
>preferably ISO
>100% form
>current keyboard is samsung sdk3500

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What model?

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this keyboard thing is the strangest fetish i've seen

you must've not been here all that long

Join the 21st century - use Colemak.

If you want the cheapest ISO keyboard with MX Blacks then a surplus G80 is your only option

A ducky probably, but beware that no backlighting is generally more expensive than single colour backlighting

Browns? How unfortunate.

>beware that no backlighting is generally more expensive than single colour backlighting
wrong. out of all the mainstream brands the ones without a backlight are cheaper

MasterKeys PBT L. Blue switches.

Yes.
If I had any decent recording equipment I'd do it. Don't think my 5 year old smartphone is good enough really.

>I cling to a keyboard layout invented in 1868 because I'm too lazy to learn something new

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>yes goyim, use this layout that makes you pay extra for your keycaps and keyboards so you can type 20WPM faster

>implying the reason to switch is to type faster
>implying you have to give a shit about the keycaps when you shouldn't even be looking at them when you type anyway
2/10 I replied.

>sculpted keycaps
IBM realized how dumb of an idea that was in the 1970s

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>Blue switches
Explain

Yo listen up, here's the story
About a little guy that lives in a blue world
And all day and all night and everything he sees is just blue
Like him, inside and outside
Blue his house with a blue little window
And a blue Corvette
And everything is blue for him
And himself and everybody around
'Cause he ain't got nobody to listen
I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
I have a blue house with a blue window
Blue is the color of all that I wear
Blue are the streets and all the trees are too
I have a girlfriend and she is so blue
Blue are the people here that walk around
Blue like my Corvette, it's in and outside
Blue are the words I say and what I think
Blue are the feelings that live inside me
I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
I have a blue house with a blue window
Blue is the color of all that I wear
Blue are the streets and all the trees are too
I have a girlfriend and she is so blue
Blue are the people here that walk around
Blue like my Corvette, it's in and outside
Blue are the words I say and what I think
Blue are the feelings that live inside me
I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa

>learn this new layout without looking at where the keys are
Got a real bright one right here

>what is keybr or any number of other sites that help you learn a new layout?

Thoughts on logitech mechanical keyboards?

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Romer G is trash made by a company that has no experience designing keyboard switches
The tactile are worse than browns the linears are passiible

I've been using workman and have just bought qwerty or blank caps since switching.

>Romer G is trash made by a company that has no experience designing keyboard switches
designed by Omron that actually does have experience making keyboard switches. try again, faggot

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November iffy uh. I got a stiffy from that webm uh.

>Have experience cloning alps switches and making mouse clickers, but not designing their own from scratch
fixed that for you

there is a firefox extension called "tridactyl" (before ff quantum it was "vimperator") that brings vim bindings an other features to your firefox. (qutebrowser is a completely standalone browser with the same behavior, but compared to ff has to many glitches, unfortunately (not getting the css right and stuff, sadly).

i've used it for one day (today) and cannot imagine browsing the web without it anymore.

i'm so stoked by this extension. and it is fucking FOSS.

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It's simply a more enjoyable experience to type on Colemak than it is on Qwerty. It's not just about speed, speed is just a nice side effect.

romer g is still trash. it was designed as a substitute for browns with better rgb, and it didn't even do that properly. it just changed where the fade went to a center radial fade rather than cherry mx's bottom of the keycap.
romer g also has a mushier feeling due to it having 2 layers of protection because the 1 cherry mx has wasn't enough.

you don't even need to buy legends if you refuse to not touch type, but i ended up buying caps from unicomp for my model m just to really show it off and confuse guests. i could have just switched the top part of the keycaps.

>Omron
speaking of them, why they stopped selling switches for keyboards, i checked them and they only shell garvage

they make mice now
as well as many other things

ye but they could still make keyboard switches with some keycaps... i would buy some just for fun the prices has to be reasonable ofc

They would if they were good. You see Omron has never made a decent keyboard switch, even after 30 years of attempts. The weird thing is that their other switches are actually great. Logitech has recently began to switch away from the omron design in their latest keyboards so my guess is that romer-g is gonna disappear pretty soon.

The best way to learn is to not change the keys on your keyboard. But after you learn it well there is no harm if you want to have some fun for looks.

i learned better when at first i could see the legends so i could peck and learn the key placement. i developed touch typing within a week of use on dvorak.
that's just personal though. i learn better visually i guess.

Retooled MX blacks are back in stock on arrow for 20 cents each if anyone cares.

Yea, whatever works man. I learned by printing out a sheet of the layout and placing it in front of my keyboard. Methods like that really help you to memorize it and learn proper fingerings.. After about a week I got rid of it.

>my guess is that romer-g is gonna disappear pretty soon.
Although I don't like it, that's probably true. It's a shame that your only real non-membrane options right now are MX clones, topre, and the unicomp keyboards. I'd like to see companies try to innovate a little more and come out with some new designs.

so do box switches not count?

My goal, that i may accomplish one day

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not him but boxes aren't really available in prebuilts yet

they are tho. you can get almost every box switch in a prebuilt nowdays.

Typing this on a motospeed ck61 that came with BOX whites, you are incorrect.

>Cherry MX Brown
>Perfection
Wow.... The delusion is astunding.

HHKB is overrated desu. i have one sitting in a box.

topre realforce 87u is my end game.

I had that Garfield book when I was a kid or one similar too it. Amazing how memory works.

explain this then?
mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=93

>not getting the css right and stuff, sadly
It literally uses Chromium, so while it has its quirks, the rendering isn't one of them.
>tridactyl
Isn't it super gimped and missing features from pentadactyl/vimperator?

I also have an 87U. And a HiPro. The HHKB's parts give it a really good sound that's just better than an 87U in my opinion. Not discrediting the 87U though, I love the 55G domes. I can't really say it's that great looking though.

Boxes are a new enough development I suppose. I dunno outside of a few like navies and royals they just seem to be aping normal MX switches

they aren't MX tho. they use completely different mechanisms and feel completely different,

They're still MX mount though, which is probably where the "MX clone" comes in. I'd agree that it's a noteworthy change in the mechanism though.

capacitive and optical switches are on the rise

non-contact switches with mx mounts are the future

That's not what MX clone means tho. Also MX switches weren't the first to use that cross shape mount and no one in their right mind would call them a clone of any of the previous switches that use the same mounting mechanism

Is there any boards I can desolder and put blue alps in?

I was going to desolder my dell at101w, but I found out that the v80 actually has alps mounts on them. Any good alternatives.

Any good vintage boards I can desolder?

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