/pcbg/ - PC Building General

should i buy "new" (they say their cards could be tested/used for demos) 1070ti for 400$ from sorta trustworhy- local chink company (its delivered to so i cant inspect it + its last one left in stock) or spend 550+ on a newegg one ?

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That's a great drive. And no, nvme makes no difference unless you move and copy alot of files between nvme drives. Nvme does nothing for speeds in opening apps, games, or booting faster. Just don't buy nvme.

pcpartpicker.com/list/GR3xkd
This will work right ?
Im looking for 100fps+ gaming rig

Yeah. Which of these items do you already have?

everything except the 1070ti
im and i only have 8gb (2x) ram right now
my comfortable range is 600 aud

NVMe has much better I/O performance. The difference is nigh irrelevant for casual usage, but it can be huge on a case-by-case basis (basically, in dev).

King Paijot has called and activated my grey market windows key

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F4-3600C15D-16GTZ is a good memory, right?

I wouldn't pay $400 for something I can't verify works perfectly and/or can't return for a no-cost refund.

2600 is about 3x the performance overall over the 2500k stock vs stock.
You're talking a ~460 cinebench score for the 2500k vs ~1290 for the 2600. Any Ryzen with SMT is a massive upgrade over the 2500k.
And I don't know why X2 was disappointing to you. Mine was amazing.
2700X would be fine in your case.
Sure a 3700X will be even better, but the 2700X is still the best you can currently get if you don't want to replace the CPU in a year.

>Are there any recommended m.2 SSDs
MX500 or 860 Evo tends to be the best well priced m.2 option.
SU800 and some other cheaper ones just don't come in m.2
Bit expensive. I'd wait for a sale unless you can't. MX500 1Tb was like $145 recently.
No it doesn't over a fast SSD, IIRC. Only benefit is simple read/write speeds which doesn't tend to affect boot/load times.
Only with Optane might you see a noticable difference in i/o and latency.

Yes.

I asked this in the last thread but I'll ask it again:
Is a 2600 for 149€ a good purchase?
I already ordered some cl15 3200mhz b-die ram at a good price.

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>I wouldn't pay $400 for something I can't verify works
so is 450$ fine price for that card if i know it will be fine ?
newegg.com/global/au-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487387&cm_re=gtx_1070_ti-_-14-487-387-_-Product

>Bit expensive. I'd wait for a sale unless you can't. MX500 1Tb was like $145 recently.
Yeah, it's almost $200 with shipping and I think I saw that deal but didn't jump in on it. I'd rather just buy it now instead of waiting. I'm sure I'll get BTFO this month, but I won't skim for a $50 difference.

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I'm thinking of buying a UPS this week.

>i7-8700
>Asus 1080 Ti
>G.Skill Trident Z 16GB
>Asus Z370 Strix-E
>Corsair HX750w

I've read a few materials about it and learned that it's important to buy one that has a pure sine wave output and it will work fine if the power supply is an PFC Power Supply.

It seems that APC is the only readily available brand here in my country. So I'm not sure what to pick.

Vega alone needs 700w to flash bios/overclock/underclock. Stop giving false hopes to clueless people.

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Any benefit for m.2 over a regular SATA SSD for gayming

I had a 2500k.
Was aggravating with all the stuttering the last few years, and how painfully slow Adobe Premiere was and even shit like alt-tabbing could be so slow, and that was with 16Gb of RAM too so it wasn't page file slowing it down.

I didn't want to get an Intel CPU again because I was pissed off I needed a new board for the 4770k just 2 years later, when I could upgrade AMD CPUs years later on an old board fine.
Finally got a 1600X when it came out and was on sale, and have no regrets. It's a night and day difference.
My 1600X in 2018 feels better than the 2500k did in 2011, let alone compared to what a stuttering and freezing piece of shit it was a few years later.

>Is a 2600 for 149€ a good purchase?
>I already ordered some cl15 3200mhz b-die ram at a good price.
Yes.
I mean personally I'd get an X CPU because I don't like the flat all-core clocks.

There will be SSD deals on black friday, I'm sure.

No Cyberpower? I never liked APC.

Miniscule lower latency maybe. Ryzen has PCIe x4 for the M.2 slot on the die itself so it doesn't have to go through the chipset. But benchmarks I've seen don't really show any benefit from what I could see

Right back to that lie after being given the sources you false flagged for. You're a real fucktard.
Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules.

Did I do good Jow Forums?

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>Didn't consider getting a 2600k

I was on a 2500k.
Swapped to a 2600k last month.

Stutters gone.

That Acer B247W an user showed in the previous thread looks nice. Has gone under my radar. I don't see any news about its release on any site when I search.

I might get it to replace my HP ZR24w

I did consider it and fucking retards like the ones who spam these threads with "[2/4] threads is all you need" convinced me the $100 extra would be a complete waste.
Same way retards still trick people into buying the 8400, 8600k, 9600k, whatever, when they'll inevitably become stuttering shit just like the 2500k if they aren't already.

But even if I did get it, the microcode updates nerfing the SMT would have made it shit by now still anyway. But yeah it would have made the whole 2015-2017 period of waiting for Zen a hell of a lot more bearable.
At least I've learned. Whereas you have these underage retards on Jow Forums who never learned that who try to trick people into buying shitty hardware that won't last just like the fucktards who tricked me into getting a 2500k instead of a 2600k all those years ago.

2600 is better value than 2600x at 1440p right?

>I mean personally I'd get an X CPU because I don't like the flat all-core clocks.
I planed on getting a 2600X because I never bother with overclocking but that thing is 200€.
Maybe I'll consider it if the price drops lower.
Also I'm not so sure about overclocking since I'd rather get a b450 board and let XFR and PBO do their thing. I can sell it in a year or so if Zen2 turns out to be OK.

What is this BIOS flashback+ thing some MSI boards have?

I envy you fucking 60hz plebs.
>should I get a 650TI and i3 8350k for 4k? It's only $300 for whole build including an SSD
>yeah that should be fine
meanwhile I have a fucking 8700k and 1080TI and I struggle to do 144 on the newest unoptimized shit sometimes

Any Mexicanfag here? What are some good mexican stores? Looks like the only store with good prices is Amazon desu.

Yeah. Non-APC brands are a tough find here in my place. Though I will try to look for other brands.

Core 2 Duo waitfag here that waits for DDR5/PCiE 5 now I hear of NRAM/Gen-Z. When will the wait stop?

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It lets you update the motherboard BIOS without a CPU inserted. Useful for when you need to flash a new update on a older motherboard that supports a new CPU that wouldn't be compatible without the update.

Thoughts on aerocool aero 800?

144hz is a huge meme for modern titles unless all you play is esports stuff.

>DDR5
yeah just wait till 2021

t. poorfag with 60hz monitor

If you've seen both 144 and 60 and say that you can't tell the difference I think you should see an optometrist.

Games feel snappier and more responsive, looking around is smooth as fuck at 144 while 60 to me feels like what watching a 24fps movie probably feels like to you. I hate how 24fps is an industry standard just like how I hate that 60fps is an industry standard. 60 might be enough for a movie because you aren't controlling your character, but it sure as shit isn't enough in ANY game where you control your character.

>No it doesn't over a fast SSD, IIRC
It has. A huge at that.

R8 and h8. Looking to keep the system as quiet as possible.

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Begone, please.

>as quiet as possible
why tho

I have a similar noctua cooler just for performance and it works pretty well. I've never had what I consider to be a loud computer and I run my fans at 100% all the time.

We are talking about video games, you know, the only reason you'd want to build a computer with anything modern in it.

How is seasonic for psu?

Anything inherently wrong with this build?
Im not to sure about the PSU.

ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vKFVZR
Budget $1000cad

Because my laptop sounds like a jet engine at idle and I don't want to deal with that anymore

I play recent games at 100+fps with a [email protected] and a RX580 nothing too shabby. Still the 144hz is a must.

Just get a bunch of case fans and let your bios sort it out. It may seem like that will make it more loud but in reality it won't be much louder than just a couple and they'll run at lower speeds because you have more airflow.

>gigabyte mobo

Recent fans from either Noctua or be quiet! are fairly quiet unless you push them at 70%.
So if you want quiet, get a NH15 or a Pro 4 and fill your computer with fans running between 30 to 50%.
That's what I did and I only hear them if the fans spin over 60%

Whats wrong with it

I've had gigabyte for years

>I already ordered some cl15 3200mhz
>3200 CL15
>b-die
user I.....

Are you retarded, user?

Not with your Ryzen you won't.

power supply is overkill, the Pcie drive is unnecessary unless you're wanting to masturbate to benchmarks. Maybe take SSD money and get a 2700x instead? the rest is ok.

oh that wasn't me I only use Intel™ Inside™ I thought you had an issue with gigabyte in general

I hope what ever you got is actually good.

Cl15 is not b-die. Enjoy your ram running at 2400 kek

Yea, i was iffy on the 970 and the psu, will likely change them out since alot of people are saying the same thing.

pcpartpicker.com/list/swthdX
is this build passable? i don't intend to manually oc and the gpu is on sale here

How do vrm ratings work on motherboards? My board has 6 x 50A vrms yet the vrm compilation picture says its only good for 200w?

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Fixing a shitty computer for a friend, it's an asrock h61m + dual core meme that has 4gb ram.

What would be better, add 4gb so it doesn't crash anymore, or add an ssd? can't choose both

Nope, they fucked up on Ryzen tho.

Gigabyte made a shit mobo for ryzen, even assrock is better. Avoid that if you could.

Alrighty thanks.

you could shave off $20 or so on the PSU and maybe grab a better cooler / OC that processor, but the rest looks pretty good.

I've checked every b-die finder list that there is to find and they all list it as being Samsung B-die memory. I got a good deal on it since the regular price is around 200€ and I ordered it for 170€.
Go ahead. Shitpost about me buying 170€ ram. You know you want to.

i'm not really savvy enough when it comes to oc, can this mobo actually handle an oc ryzen with its heatsink?

>Go ahead. Shitpost about me buying 170€ ram. You know you want to.
Honestly it's just sad, not even worth shitposting about.

a mild OC, most mobos can do. pushing more voltage is more an enthusiast thing.
if mild is 10% increase and enthusiast is 20%, do you want/need that extra percent and do you wanna pay for it?

is upgrading to a 144hz monitor from a 60 really worth it, will I notice a big difference?

pcpartpicker.com/list/H6hfRJ Here's what I have so far, I assume a fair budget would be $500 USD? I have no idea how to pick a motherboard, PSU, and RAM.

You'll notice it right away just browsing the desktop or web browser.

oh and I do some moderate gaming and music production primarily. Would probably do best with around 16gb of RAM

>getting sad about how other people spend their money
I hope you're joking, user.

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oh I see, ok that sounds reasonable, I'll try to look out for a decent cpu cooler, if my budget allows it, thanks user.

how much harder is it to maintain that framerate in modern games, though? I'm planning on upgrading to a 1070ti or 1080 around black friday.

$2k ceiling.
I need the highest uncapped frame rate I can possibly get for gaming. I will just reuse the unlisted parts from my old build. How can I make this better?
pcpartpicker.com/list/VTBCq4

>mobo
x470 with decent reviews, budget $100
>Ram
16GB of fast timing ddr4 3000~ is $120
>PSU
650w for normal use, 750w if youre a torture test OCer. $50-70

Pls reply -_-

Get a used 1080ti or buy a 2080 instead.
Get at least 3600mhz ram.
Delid 8700k and use liquid metal.

is it better to buy an x/z470 mobo or is 350 perfectly fine for the next few years

Empathy, nigger.

1080p?

You can do it on ALMOST every game, maybe not cutting edge stuff like Black Ops 4. Get a 1080, TI if you can afford it. You might have to lower some settings like AA or texture quality but honestly once you play at 144 for a while you won't ever want to go back to 60. The closest comparison that I can make between the difference that you'd understand is that 60fps is like playing with a controller but 144 is a mouse and keyboard. I'm not the guy who you are replying to but I bought a second 144hz just to browse Jow Forums with because I can tell the difference even just doing desktop stuff.

I'd unironically put 144hz monitor above SSD purchase in the order to buy PC parts if you play video games.

Does anybody know if G-skill's tridentz RGB ram for AMD still work for intel mobos?
Bought it on sale and didn't see the "X" at the end of the model #..........fuck

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pcpartpicker.com/list/CPVVZR

>1080p?
yes. thanks for all the info. I was thinking of doing a dual monitor setup with my old 60hz display just for desktop/browser usage while I reserve the 144hz monitor for gaming.

opinions on buying used GPUs from ebay? good way to save some cash, or too dubious?

I'm about to spend 30€ on a 120gb boot m.2 SATA SSD. I already have a 500gb 850 evo for Vidya and a 2tb HDD for porn.
Which cheap m.2 SSD should I get and why?
note: M.2 with SATA speeds - > NVMeme is useless to me since I won't use it for work. Just for relatively fast boot times. My 120gb Kingston A400 does the job well but I want to give it to a friend.

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It's a mixed bag. There are some great deals on there of barely used or well taken care of cards, or you will get a card that's been heavily abused by a dumb miner or gamer. Would only consider if the price is low enough and the seller has good reviews plus backed by eBay's buyer protection policy.

Yeah perfectly reasonable, as long as you have the CPU and ram to support it. Remember that by using two monitors where you presumably have 20 tabs of porn playing at the same time you are eating cpu performance and ram to play them. Not a big deal if you blow the game out of the water but my system can get about 180 in black ops 4 ultra without youtube open on my other monitor but if I do have it open I average around 150 and that's with everything maxed except for render scale at 100% and motion blur (lol) off

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You want to figure this out on your own or you want people to tell you whats best. Either provide info or read up nigga.

Thoughts about a 2700x with a 2080?
Can’t find intel anywhere, and I feel stupid buying a 8700k.
For grandmaster esports faggotry, casual mmo use, streaming and rendering. 1080p/144hz minimum, but ideally framrates as high as possible.
3200mhz cl14 ram.