Intel CSL-AP

AYYMD EPOO ROME HOUSEFIRES GARBAGE CAN'T COMPETE WITHOUT AVX512 SUPPORT

INTEL KILLS AYYMD EPOO 64 CORES GARBAGE WITH 96 CORES OF PURE EPOO KILLING POWER & PERFORMANCE

>chasing core count at the cost of cooling, power, clocks and price

This shit's hilarious, Intel should have released nothing instead of now having to compare their best against something with 50% more cores, half the TDP and equal clocks

>not even Magny-Cours levels of proper niggerriggetry
Pathetic.
They wouldn't scream about the event from every mountain period if they only had Vega20 to show.

>kneejerk to Zen2 tomorrow

This is how a fight between a 70billion vs 7 billion company looks like, the former spazzing out

Days without Jewish tricks: _____

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Reveal, not selling

Q1 for big boys, Q2 for vendors and likely Q3 for losers like us

JUST YOU WAIT FOR 10NM IN 2020 YOU STUPID GOY
GPU SUPERPOWER BY 2020

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Intel is basically a zombie.
You could probably get some trays Q2 and onwards.

Only 700w TDP for the 2 socket system!

yeah wtf is this actually real? it's almost 2019 ffs

>Cascade Lake
More like a Cascade Failure.

Rome must be really good if Intel is THIS desperate.

64 cores on one chip, dual socket means 128c/256t, take a guess

Kek, it really is endlessly entertaining how everything intel have done for the last 18 months has reeked of desperation. I fuckin' love it. Next year really is going to be amazing.

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This.
Imagine putting the top of the line Zen2 Epyc against this literal housefire, which probably costs 3 or 4 times more. It's going to be a no-brainer for literally anyone in the field. Anyone picking the Intel over the Epyc deserves to get fired on the spot.

At least put some effort into making a decent chart.

>Anyone picking the Intel over the Epyc deserves to get fired on the spot.
Except Intel still has massive market share over the enterprise market.

I can feel my face melting just from watching that chart.

and there has been talk about quad sockets on the epyc platform

More like Cascading Failure

How do they plan on doing that though? "7nm" is nowhere near to halving the die surface compared to 14nm. Optimistic guesses are -40% power requirements aswell. The math doesn't add up unless there were some serious issues with Ebyn/TR. This makes me hopeful however that we might get 8 cores per die, making 6 And 8 core APUs finally possible.

Is there a livestream link for AMD's event?

>bringing the fires to the datacenters

Imagine the fan noise from any server with one of these abominations

It already is 8 cores per die for Zen/Zen+. 4 cores per CCX x2 resulting in 8 cores. The APU designs use 1 CCX with 4 cores + the added GPU which already results in a bigger die size than an 8 core ryzen. APUs are more expensive to produce and yet they are significantly cheaper for consumers bless mommy su.
Current speculated/leaked/confirmed whatever you want to call it is 8x8 7nm 2CCX 8 core dies + 1 14nm die that manages the core dies (I/O, memory connectivity etc.) for rome.

JUST USE A CHILLER BRO

that doesnt mean anything its not like epyc cant do the same things..in less space for less power and less cooling..
the amount of money saved is enormous

Just immersion cooling this shit up bruh.

kek

Intlel throwing out marketing fud again? Who'da thunk it.

So as I understand it thats a two intel CPUs against one AMD Epyc.
Correct?

It's Intlels version of SLI

those are still 2 CPUs against one.
Not much of a comparison if you ask me.

Intel said it didn't like EPYC "glue", then tries to keep up using inferior "glue".

are you dumb? if it has better pros and cons for the guy running the server it doesn't matter if it's made up of a gorillion cpus

Is it glue? Or is this just two normal Xeon using a bigger socket to compete rathen than engineered glue like and?

>DL inference against in-house CPU
lol

Dual EPYC 64 mobos confirmed.

as opposed to dual socket epyc?

How do the CPUs communicate?
AMD designed Infinity Fabric. What does Intel use?

>when it launches
>we expect
>based on our current understanding
>may cause results to vary
>estimated or simulated using internal Intel analysis or architecture simulation or modeling
>informational purposes
>based on testing or projections
>may not reflect all publicly available security updates
>may not reflect all publicly available security updates
>may not reflect all publicly available security updates
>may not reflect all publicly available security updates
>may not reflect all publicly available security updates
>no product can be absolutely secure
>Intel's compilers may or may not optimize to the same degree for non-Intel microprocessors
>for optimizations that are not unique
>Intel does not guarantee availability, functionality or effectiveness of any optimization on microprocessors not manufactured by Intel
>microprocessor-dependent optimizations in this product are intended for use with Intel microprocessors
>certain optimizations not specific to Intel micro-architecture are reserved for Intel microprocessors

This is the IT version of the Talmud.

> What does Intel use?
2D mesh on-die, UPI outside of it.

> AMD designed Infinity Fabric. What does Intel use?
A glue stick bought from OfficeWorks

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To be honest, it probably won't be that noticeable in a datacenter. Some switch/router/firewall fan trays are fucking loud.

My bigger concern than the noise is the heat dissipation... This abomination will probably pull >400W consistently at even moderate loads, before taking into account other parts. Have a bunch of these on a rack and it'll be as bad as a GPU render farm.

Given 12 memory channels, it is straightforward to assume that each "MCP" is two current XCC dice on one package (with 4 cores each disabled). It will be somewhat interesting to see how they compare, both price- and performance-wise, against current 2S Skylake systems. If one CSL-AP package is just about the same as a 2S Skylake, then Intel is truly finished and bankrupt.

Yikes!

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delid dis

>Performance leadership
>LINPACK
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I bet they measured performance in watts

>2x 48-core cpus
>3 times the 32 cores of a single EPYC 7601
>slightly higher clocks
>"UP TO 3.4X" vs AMD EPYC 7601
WOW, really stimulates the neurons...

5x the price, 4x the power consumption, up to 3.4x the performance with no security patches and no optimizations for amd in a simulation created by intel using internal intel rules for evaluation.

these jews, man, i swear

Reminds me of the windows XP gold edition meme.
This processor seems to be just about right for it.

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>mfw even AMD shill AdoredTV overestimated Intel here (he thought they would go 56 cores)

rofl

>need to buy new motherboard because new socket
>no upgrade path because this is the last thing intel can do

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>SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3 and who knows what else disabled on AMD

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>look at those fucking footnotes

it's usually a couple of sentances. Did they accidentally copy+paste a fucking Dan Brown book manuscript?

Yeah, but it's Intel glue, so it's obviously superior. AMD BTFO.

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>needs 2 cpu's to battle one for 1.73x

>thinks its a good idea to advertise it

brian never left intel

damn, that's a lot of fine printing

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trump is driving them insane

I just realized that by this Intel acknowledge that 1 Intel CPU < 1 AMD CPU.
Job fucking well done

do you think customers are braindead? if a 2 cpu rig will get the job done then what's the problem?

hmmmmmm

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Delid dis
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more power more cooling more space
vs
less power less cooling less space

gee

by that ridiculous logic they should be using a raspberry pi or a nuc or someshit

this is the logic of every single company in the world..
1 cent minus is enough to save thousands of dollars per year

hence why epyc is already having 6% of the markeshare

kys idiot, they're obviously targeting heavy parallel workloads

Looks just like something a chronically underpaid poojeet intern would throw together within 5 minutes in photoshop

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if you have zero idea about the logistics why you bother replying?

>if a 2 cpu rig will get the job done then what's the problem?
The problem is x86 does not scale in multi-CPU scenarios, by design.
Big latencies means for many database applications (i.e. most server applications), you're always better off with a single CPU vs dual CPUs, if the performance is close. It's the reason people pay exorbitant amounts for single SPARC and POWER CPUs, even though you could built more "powerful" configurations with multiple x86 CPUs at half the price.

Also, dual CPUs mean much more expensive motherboard and associated components, space and cooling costs, etc. .

Even when you *have* to use multiple CPUs to get the required performance, using x86 to do it is absolutely retarded.
Pretty much every other architecture scales much, much better.
If Intel's strategy is "add an extra CPU", it's a deadend cause 2 CPUs are already stressing x86 as an architecture.

>run inlel processor on venerable xp
you have no respect you fucking pleb

you're a fucking moron jerkwad, you have no idea why someone would want a 96 core cascade lake server? fuck off

in that case your amd is shit too because they're using x86

they are comparing it AGAINST a SINGLE 7601
do you EVEN UNDERSTAND the IMPLICATIONS of NEEDING 2 CPUS to BEAT 1 CPU?

there is no problem if it has good price/performance etc. can amd beat the intel 2 socket server?

someone will probably buy it because it is useful to them. you armchair experts can cry all you want, what does it matter.

>no problem
cascade ap tdp 220w x2 440watts
meanwhile
epyc 7601 tdp 180 watts
barely beats it by 1.3x for 2.5x tdp and god knows how much thermals the room will need

yeah i guess you can say that amd not only won they pretty much piledrived intel

based shooper

shhhh

oh the ironing....

AMD
>More cores with less power use for less monies.
Intel
>We must construct additional pylons!

Cascade Lake? more like Casket Lake since it will be dead on arrival

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>TFW one 64/128 CPU from AMD on 7nm can beat two 48 core Intel 'glued together' 14nm++++++++++ CPU's.

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Call it Casket Failure.

>there is no problem if it has good price/performance etc. can amd beat the intel 2 socket server?

wtf are you smocking son? if intel admits that the only way to fight amd on 1s is to create a 2s to even begin to compete with them they basicly lost the battle

It'll be perfect right alongside coffinlake.

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