I fell for the meme

1 year ago
> Be me, Gentoo user for 2 years
> got tired of recompiling my kernel at every release.
> distro_hop_time.rk
> kinda want a justwerks distro
> but fuck going back to apt, that shit is disgusting
> arch & pacman are nice, but fuck archfags and fuck painful processes
> hear about manjaro
>> b-but muh systemd
> whatever, I'll figure it out later
> ubuntu-like installation process, breddy gud
> fast-forward to today
I only have 2 issues so far:
- dedicated too little space to the root on installation, which made me play with LVM for ~2 hours to fix it. My retarded ass fault
- sometimes wifi just fucking dies and there's no way to restart it. This never happened with Gentoo, and I seriously suspect systemd retarded network stack of being a culprit. Gotta migrate to antix, probably.

Thinkpad T440p here, Nvidia GPU drivers are a fucking breeze if you use the manjaro tool to manage them. But I understand your pain, I had to go through this shit several times, it's not really the distro's fault.
> random crash while Pacman -Syu
this is when it went wrong, kiddo. You should've cleaned up everything (especially the cache and the lock file) and pacman -Syyuu again. Happened to me once, and that's how I fixed it. This is nothing, try recovering portage when it fucks up some huge shit while compiling; Or when it accidentally its own dependency tree (someone even wrote a special tool that fixes up the deps *only* for perl).

Manjaro I3 isn't bad

>dedicated too little space to the root on installation, which made me play with LVM for ~2 hours to fix it. My retarded ass fault

Doesn’t the Manjaro installed on auto mode decide to give you something rewarded like an 8Gb swap

openbox looks good out of the box.

I needed to set up LVM with crypto (required by my job), so I chose the manual partitioning

>TLP installed by default for muh thinkpad
TLP is NOT the same as tp_smapi and acpi_call

I have the XPS 13 9360 and I've never had any sound problem on Manjaro, but I had a wifi problem which was due to this broadcom piece of trash card. I consider switching to an intel wifi card

don't expect it to "just werks" or to be perfect.
Manjaro is built on Arch so you will always have to make some tweak yourself, but you will have much control on the distro than on Ubuntu

>you will always have to make some tweaks yourself
To me it seems like you have to deal with breakage, not just some tweaks. Other distros might have some tweaks, Arch have shit that just breaks.

Unstable mess, don't recommend such a thing to people who need their stuff to not break.

So what's the problem with apt ? Xubuntu babby here.

When I burn the image onto a usb stick it never manages to boot. Every other distro (even obscure BSDs literally just work)

No thanks.

>Unstable mess
Yup
Don't recommend such a thing to people who need their stuff to not break.
Which is everyone

>pacman -Syyuu
Does anyone else call it "pacman syou"?

Never had to pronounce it irl, but I guess that's more or less how I'd do it
> retarded dependency management
>> can't selectively remove a package (as in: without removing whatever depends on it)
> six gorillion incomplete frontends for the actual package manager, dpkg
>> apt-get, aptitude, apt...
>> external command (update-alternatives) just in order to manage multiple versions of the same package
at least it's not rpm

Why use Manjaro over Antergos? Antergos is literally just out-of-the-box Arch, whereas Manjaro tries to be its own thing by making changes which only have the effect of making Arch worse.

that feel when there will never been a rolling release *buntu

I wanted to like manjaro but it doesn't just werk with my double monitor configuration and it resets on logins.

Why would you want that? Rolling release distros are a retarded idea

I hate being forced to install after an arbitrary period of months. It's a pain in the ass.

>just do dist-upgrade brah
Last time I did that it broke everything and I had to reinstall everything anyway. Just epic.

why?

Prone to dependency issues and random breakages. If there’s a big unknown security issue it might take a while to get patched out.

>breaks your xorg.conf

Nothing personal kid

well memed my friend

Based. I've been using the KDE version of Manjaro for about 6 months now without any issues.

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It’s a very insecure platform to base a distro on.

security.archlinux.org/

Of course the devs could write a custom patch just for Arch. That's what the folks at Canonical do for Ubuntu. It simply isn't their job to fix other people's software. And contrary to Ubuntu they're not getting paid to do so so these issues remain.

I think it's a problem with the Desktop Environment in this case, not with the distro

I know this problem and it's retarded
You need to write the image as a DD image intead of iso

all these stories about shit randomly breaking after updates and i've never had an issue even though i update everything blindly, been using kde manjaro for over a year now

> big unknown security issue
well, how do you even patch it if it's unknown?
> dependency issues and random breakages
I can't see how would a RR distro have more dependency issues than your average GayBuntu that gets released every 6 months and still can't figure out how not to force its users to reinstall the entire fucking OS. I saw apt dist-upgrade breaking way more shit than arch with the xorg.conf meme.
Also, you're thinking more in terms of "bleeding edge" than rolling release. Decouple the two things; Manjaro stable is, well, pretty stable and not that ancient. Although I would probably not put it onto a server - but if there was a company courageous enough to fork arch, keep it rolling but only with stable and battle-tested packages - I'd immediately try it on one of my servers.

Sewing one button doesn't make you a tailor, just as cooking one meal doesn't make you a chef.
But fuck one horse and you are a horsefucker for all of history...

what has security to do with the rolling release concept?

lrn2dd

>without any issues
Linux is an issue by default, you dumb frog poster.

>It’s a very insecure platform to base a distro on.
/this/
The main problem with Manjaro is, it appears to be newbie-friendly but is anything but.
It's kinda like falling in love with a hot girl and realizing she's bat-shit crazy six months down the road.

Antergos uses a ton of custom repositories on top of Arch's ones, which i really hazardous

Not an argument, sweatie.

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>autistic archfag damage control

Face it your distro and philosophy is shit.

I only use dd...

>libcurl.so: no version information available

that would be manjarofag, please. Go install the latest version of your distro of choice and fuck off this thread. Just don't forget to write its name here before you do - so I can shit on it

fuck, that's weird. Paste here the command you're using

what are you talking about?

try to run spotify: it gives that error
try to run runescape: it gives that error
everything else works flawlessly, though

Try installing curl if you don't have it already

Nigger, fix your dependencies. Also, have you tried purging/reinstalling curl?

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>i3 that runs on 250mb of memory

bloat

better install i3 yourself, witout all the bloat.

Why not use Archlabs?

people actually have better things to care about.

>breaks during installation process
>nothing personnel, kiddo

user friendly doesn't mean it's not shit.It's dumped down arch linux with bloated shit, for people who are apperently too cool too install ubuntu.pacman is a garbage package manager anyways, why aren't you just running debian anyways

Elementary OS or the latest Xubuntu LTS are all anyone will ever need. Manjaro it okei for about a month until an update kills it.

I work as a DevOps, so I probably should STFU - but how are you people so fucking retarded to not be able to effortlessly manage a dumbed down arch installation? RTFM

Also, as stated above - apt is retarded. And ubuntu is botnet

based and intelligent pilled

I use Debian because I’m not a fag.

it IS. they should up their game on color schemes. damn, just copy the KDE theme!

read above about apt

in what part of my reply I stated having problems with an ARSCH install? I think you replied to the wrong post family.

I think it's
> Manjaro it okei for about a month until an update kills it
I called manjaro "dumbed down arch" because that's what it is

you do nothing, it breaks on its own. Have you even used it?

nigger I'm using it for 1 year and a half, wtf did you break?

Install a real distro like gentoo or debian.

>but you will have much control on the distro than on Ubuntu
Yeah, getting root on ubuntu is soo hard

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Switched from Kubuntu two months ago and have no issues so far. Under Kubuntu, my LAN connection would just suddenly stop so I had to deactivate it and then activate it again. No problem under Manjaro, and having access to the AUR is nice. I only have two problems so far that a new ass nigga like me doesn't know how to solve
>Can't connect to network drive
>Don't know how to install JabRef
If I could make those two things work, I would probably never use Windows 7 ever again.

The only sane operating system choices are:
>OpenBSD
>Slackware
>Gentoo

sorry sweaty, (((systemd))) won't cut it

>sweaty
gross

Artix is great and the end of my distro hopping
But be prepared that some updates take longer due to having some repositories seperate

I like apt. It’s comfy and I’ve never had an issue with it.

╡$│trizen -Ss jabref
aur/jabref 4.3.1-2 [177+] [2.85%] [19 Jul 2018]
GUI frontend for BibTeX, written in Java
aur/jabref-git 1:2.9.2.r7414.gef7f8248b-1 [13+] [0.01%] [12 Oct 2017]
GUI frontend for BibTeX, written in Java -- built from git
aur/jabref-mirror 4.1-1 [out-of-date] [1+] [0.00%] [25 Dec 2017]
GUI frontend for BibTeX, written in Java, Using aliyun OSS to accelerate the source downloading process

you just mentioned aur; use it.
Also
> Can't connect to network drive
probably some library missing. What drive/fs/protocol?

>systemd
my only real issue with manjaro. I've got too much patience putting up with that shit; were I a tiny bit more impulsive I'd already be running artix.
Please, tell me more. Since when are you running it? on what HW?
> some updates take longer
I survived gentoo compiling firefox at every release, I think I can endure it.

well, how much time did you use arch/manjaro for? You should probably just stay in the debian/canonical-land and stop shitting up other distro's threads

>Can't connect to network drive
Not sure what your exact issue but try installing gvfs gvfs-smb sshfs if you don't already have them.
Have you tried aur.archlinux.org/packages/jabref/ ?

I went from Slackware to Arch to Manjaro as the older I got. Used to love tinkering and tweaking stuff and configuring and compiling my own Linux kernel. Now I just want something that works without having to learn a new package manager after using Arch for ~3 years. It also has a more mature community than Arch which primary user base browses /b/ and r/unixporn

How are the Artix repos and compatibility with the AUR? Any trouble finding packages or getting anything to work?

I haven't used Arch in years, but it looks interesting. I like that runit is an init option - used it with Void a while ago and it was nice and clean.

Never used Manjaro. Used arch on one of my laptops for about a year, it’s ok but I don’t see what’s so amazing about it. Never had any xorg fuckups from an update, but lost WiFi for a while and my conky set ups have been fucked a few times. I only use it for Desktop thread memeing, and do all my work/browsing from my Debian laptop/desktop.

Arch is a meme. Manjaro is a baby distro based on a meme.

I think I use it now for about a year. Some of the usual Arch problems, but in my experience very reliable. I am using quite modern hardware, since I still dualboot for that occasional Street Fighter match.
What I meant with some updates take longer was, that the Artix repos lag a bit behind the Arch repos sincethe Artix humans repack some of the Arch stuff. But you still depend on many packages from Arch repos.

I used the AUR quite a bit. Only once change was needed from my part.

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I forgot to mention. Some things straight up won't work, since they depend on systemD functionality (like DeepinDE)

>be me
>install majaro thinking it'll be cool
>shitty appstore
>windows get stuck under the taskbar
>randomly freezes then crashes 30 minutes after install
>can't boot back into manjaro
*SIP* now that's an OS

Might try it out on a spare Thinkpad later, it sounds like what I'm looking for. Using Slackware now, but having to compile most software does get kind of impractical for day to day use.

I suppose if you *really* needed some systemd software, you could just spin up a VM for it anyway.

>the Artix repos lag a bit behind the Arch repos
oh, in longer *that* sense... Well, imo it's a good thing - I'm on manjaro stable anyways. Idgaf about bleeding edge, shit's gotta work.
But yeah, I think I'll switch to artix this weekend, cross my fingers and hope nothing breaks.

Well, if you don't see the pitfalls of your package manager of choice then you never had to do actual work with it.

Simple example: 2weeks ago I had to install some java shit on ubuntu 18 LTS with java oracle 7. I know, le_boomer_meme.jpg, but my customer is a fucking bank, where the average programmer age is way over the """"boomer meme"""" threshold. Anyways, I could not do that without having to break apt because it does not allow me neither to install a 3rd party package properly, nor to control different versions of the same package in a sane way, nor to ignore its own fucking warnings.

While on my machine it was literally one download + one aur command away.

>Some things straight up won't work
like... which things?

the only thing I personally couldn't get to run was the Deepin DE
I just think there may be more outside of my usecase
On the other hand, such packages are exactly the ones that get repackaged for the Artix repos, so it should be the exception

not an agreement sweaty

well, I use i3 anyways; Thanks tho

Thanks for the pointer regarding JabRef. Works fine now, thanks! Regarding the network drive, I think it's davfs2. I already installed the necessary package, but "sudo mount -t davfs [URL]" returns "not found in /etc/fstab". No idea what that's supposed to mean.

did you read wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Davfs2 ?

That's a load of shit

>comes with windoz office..

I can't keep losing time fixing updates. Bleeding edge is too fucking stressful for a 30 year old boomer like me

What do you mean? As far as i know all GNU distros are great. You can accomplish the same thing with any of them if you have the proper knowledge.

>devops
>arch
I doubt it

Can I have an actual explanation as to why someone would choose this over a vanilla arch install, or anarchy? I'm not trying to bait or be sarcastic, just genuinely curious. Arch is tedious, not difficult to install, and anarchy allows you to bypass that and have a system tailored exactly to your liking.

Why?

Wake me up when they figure out how to hide this shit at startup and on resume like every other competent desktop OS.

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>Arch is tedious, not difficult to install
Is that why the official Arch installation guide (why does it even need a guide) recommends having a second computer (probably without arch installed) available so you can read the guide while you're installing arch?
To answer your question, the main appeal of Manjaro is that it is a preconfigured Arch that is easy to setup. It really competes with Antergos more than Arch.
Most users want an OS that works for them, not the other way around.

is it only confirmation bias or the manajro usage spiked after the time when i installed it which was around half of July

>hplip doesn't work out of the box 99% of the time
>hp printing only works properly on ubuntu
until manjaro gets their shit together about printing on HP, they can fuck off

the theme is nice and neutral enough. if that's your main complaint then it must be pretty good.
-- sent from manjaro i3