>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superseded by 7nm CPUs next year >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best overall and not a massive disappointment like the 9900k >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >FOR GAMING, START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately
My budget is $16,000(no jokes). I want to build a powerful gaming PC(only Intel & NVIDIA). And no, I can't afford a car - because I'm one-eyed schizophrenic. What you think about it, Jow Forums?
Kevin Gray
>multi-thread score Lol
Landon Cooper
This is honestly the dumbest example I've ever seen to "prove" how something is bad. It's common knowledge that bots in cs go rape even the highest end CPUs and are way more demanding than playing against actual players. A 3770k can run CPU heavy games like bf1 just fine but it's bad because you can't run 32 bots on cs go? Yikes.
Dylan Davis
buy a house
Xavier Scott
What the fuck RX 580 with 8GB actually has good thermals and worth the price but isn't over 260?! Every time I think I'm settled on getting one model i'll look and see reviews of thermals fucking sky rocketing to 100C+, poor airflow, and general overheating. I'm mostly gonna be doing 1080p for the time being but I really don't want to invest money that is gonna heat up when i'm already living in the sweltering heat in Galvaston. My budget is around $850 and here is the Prospective build(just trying to choice GPU): pcpartpicker.com/list/cmGGw6
>RX 570 < 1060 3Gb lol. Not for games which use over 3Gb which is tons.
Red Devil GS is $240 right now.
Nolan King
I already have a flat. And I live in Russia, houses are too expensive here.
Isaac Jenkins
Started looking at pc parts today. Bad idea. Now I really want to upgrade. This is my current build: pcpartpicker.com/list/JNP3Bb
Should I build a new pc or just upgrade the cpu/motherboard? I kinda want to "start fresh" with a new pc and get on win10 (at win7 now) and all this shit too.
Lucas Thomas
get a new ddr4 mobo and 1151 cpu
Samuel Thompson
they'd be less expensive if you didn't spend your money on an expensive PC mongoloid cyкa пиздиц иидop чypкa
Kevin Ward
>which is tons. Name me 50 then. I'll wait. I only know of a handful at most which won't run smoothly at all on a 3gb or less graphics card even with lowered texture or asset settings. Meanwhile in reality it's a non issue and the absolute worst case scenario for people with older cards with less vram or a 3gb 1060 is lowering a few texture settings to maintain consistent minimums.
Actually I essentially noticed that in B450 mATX for a 2600X, MSI and AsRock are essentially my two best options (MSI being the better one), and if I want Voltage Offset, MSI doesn't do it. Fuck's sake.
Asher Bailey
Did you guys just give up pretending your not shilling for AMD?
Jace Bennett
>EVGA GQ750 80+ Gold - 750 W for 75€ >Semi-modular I actually might just buy it since all other Gold certified PSUs around 650W seem to cost around 100€ in Europe. That, or I'm not looking in the right places.
Sebastian Thompson
>they'd be less expensive if you didn't spend your money on an expensive PC mongoloid cyкa пиздиц иидop чypкa
2700x, Corsair vengence 3466mhz, Asus prime x470-pro, 1 tb m.2 2280, noctua should-15 am4 edition with both fans, Corsair cube case. Also 2 275gb SSD drives.
Kept my MSI rx580 gamingx 4gb from last pc because I’m not sure if I want to upgrade the card yet.
POSTed on first boot.
RAM ran at 3466 with xmp no problems at all.
Ran a 15 minute stress test to OC the cpu.
Running at 4.15ghz with ram at 3466 at 1.35v - idles between 37-40 degrees, highest temp during stress was 73 degrees.
Will be testing games tonight and installing afterburner to OC the gpu some.
First impressions - Asus bios still the king. Over locking was insanely easy and this noctua cooler is insane. The computer is very quiet and even during the stress tests never got too loud.
Will it be worth to wait for black friday/cyber monday if you buy the almost newest gen of stuff? I can't imagine they will discount the 8700k and such much, if anything.
Carson Rogers
>Will it be worth to wait for black friday/cyber monday if you buy the almost newest gen of stuff? No idea. In Europe, the last few Black Fridays have been utter garbage.
Blake Scott
>bought an rtx card >mfw I realized my monitor only has a VGA port A-am I going to be fine with an adapter? I don't want to spend money on a new monitor and I only use this pc for 3d rendering
>Monitor is VGA-only >Still found the shekels to buy the RTX meme Change that shit user. Although I'm not sure if you're not just pulling my leg on that one...
Dominic Powell
Looking for 1080p, >60FPS, gaming with priority in thermals, longevity, and utility.
RX 580 (8GB) or GTX1060 (6GB).
I've survived on a GTX 550ti for the last 8 years, but now I'm making my next long term build, and I want something that will truck along like the 550ti did for me. But i'm not married to the brand, but i'm tilted towards the GTX1060 for the extra $30
>Thermals That will be a 1060 as long as you don't buy the crappy ones. More expensive 580s do have good coolers, but it does run hotter due to higher consumption.
Daniel Perez
(Me) That said, the 580 has better Dx12 capability, so it may be worth considering instead.
Ryder Morgan
Your Russian is lousy.
Caleb Gray
Why do you feel so personally slighted that no Intel CPU is worth buying anymore?
Why did you underclock by 200mhz? It's 4.35GHz stock and will do 4.15 all-core with PBO enabled. I suppose if goal is efficiency instead, then yeah 1.35v is going to use a lot less power.
You buy monitor first, then GPU, like the OP says. Don't know how you guys always fuck up on this very basic fact of building.
Black Friday deals have pretty much only been good for SSDs and occasionally AMD GPUs (2016 had like $265 R9 Fury). There will be monitor sales, but they almost surely won't be ones you actually want. Maybe ebay will have a 15% discount that you can use on that Mbest monitor or something to bring it to like $275ish. That's the best you can really hope for.
pcpartpicker.com/list/247tHh RX580 may consume a lot of power under 100% synthetic load, but in actual gaming load it's only like 35-115w which isn't as significant as the gas lighters will lead you to believe. 115w isn't even 2 60w light bulbs. I have one myself. Massively reduced power consumption over my 7970GHz.
You can get a new 580 for $200. You can get a used 1080 for $300-350. I wouldn't even think about the 1060.
Lucas Nguyen
I have a 1060 6gb. If your just looking for 60fps and higher you'll be fine.
I nearly Max out wow with 4xmsaa and get 80+ in high density areas. In areas where there's not alot of peeps it's above 120fps on my 144hz monitor.
Gonna get a 1070ti soon or Vega 56 granted the 56 become more available.
Joseph Kelly
They should just rename the general to /amdbg/.
Kayden Ramirez
>Why do you feel so personally slighted that no Intel CPU is worth buying anymore? not the guy you are responding to, But honestly Im pretty assblasted about all the spectre shit, will never buy Intel again
Noah Gray
which 1060 would you suggest?
A little bump in Dx12 wouldn't be worth it if the consistent overheating throttles too much and dies out early as we dip into higher demands down the line.
Thats why I swore by the 550ti as I've been able to get up to medium setting on Overwatch on a 2010 build today and still get almost 60FPS and good thermals with a thermal-centric build I made back then.
I am reluctant to get used as I have no certainty about the usage for what i'm getting. I know if I get it out of the box and use it conservatively with good airflow and thermals it will last so I wouldn't want to do anything used.
How are the thermals and which model?
Lucas White
Sorry I left out some info - it is 4.15 all core.
And honestly it’s mostly to keep temps low as I’m really getting all the performance I need out of it.
With the 16gb of 3466 ram the thing just flies so far.
I’ll report back some actual gaming and benchmark notes after I leave the office and do some tweaking tonight.
Daniel Jones
I think he is living in the internet
Lucas Jackson
But it doesn't throttle. I mean that higher power consumption is a problem it you live in the desert where it's absurdly hot all day, or if you're neurotic about noise. Or if you have a garbage PSU that would force you to change it.
>which 1060 would you suggest? See OP for the ones to avoid. EVGA, ASUS, MSI Gaming/Gaming X... Gaming/Gaming X series are absurdly expensive and I would absolutely never buy them, but they do have sweet coolers.
Eli Jackson
I’ve had my rx 580 4gb for about 2.5 years - I’ve never had heat issues even in my smaller case before my new build. Just have proper airflow and get a model with good fans.
Funny how these trolls have only showed up in such force since the Coffeelake refresh launched and was such a massive disappointment, and stock of Nvidia cards dried up so they couldn't be recommended.
Same people recommending all AMD now were the same people who recommended 1080Ti when they were on sale for
Christopher Brown
I don't give a fuck about the monitor, I would literally be fine with a black and white screen
Ayden Johnson
Now you have to.
Julian Hughes
Funny how you only showed up during Ryzen and have removed all Intel listings everytime there's a new release and now you're wiping off Nvidia listings as well.
Fuck off shill.
Owen Nguyen
>rx 580 4gb Which model do you have, i'm interested.
So you're saying the GTX1060 is the better of the 2 for cooling?
Joseph Robinson
Oh wait, Asus refreshed their B450 in October. The TUF B450-PLUS Gaming became a TUF B450-PRO Gaming. Apparently more phases per VRM and better cooling. One more option to track I suppose.
now the shills are using the same tactic to remove nvidia
Mason Morris
Hey, guys. I've been contemplating getting into streaming, and I've had this capture card sitting around for the longest time (pic related, Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro), but I'm not sure how it'll perform/if it'll get along with modern programs since it's pretty old.
Opinions? Should I give this one a shot or go with a newer, safer option?
If you’re not OCing the cpu then stick ryzen cooler should be fine.
Charles Roberts
I've been ranting for a few threads that essentially the best b450 mATX mono doesn't do voltage offset, which you will care about only on X processors. So if you don't give a shit about OC, go for the 2600.
Cooper James
pcpartpicker.com/list/MCyXZR Hey can I get an opinion on this build? Should I just wait for Intel 7nm or is it cool to build? Currently I have i5 4460 with Nvidia 750. It's ok but I do want to upgrade, any thoughts?
Justin Clark
How about the 2600x? Is the wraith spire good enough?
>Funny how you only showed up during Ryzen No I didn't.
The 1060 uses less power, yes. But it's insignificant. A bit more power on a midrange GPU doesn't mean much. Came out in 2017 soon after Ryzen. It's a refresh of the 480.
>intel's lineup is shit and flawed so it gets shit on That's not bias. >Intel 7nm so wait until 2030? Sure, go ahead.
Something a little girl made with finger paint. Doesn't come like that.
The 4Gb XFX that's $200 or the Red Devil GS that's $240.
Sure. Use stock cooler first before deciding if it's too loud for you.
Josiah Peterson
If you’re not over clocking and have decent case air flow yes. If you want to OC at all I’d get something better.
Anything Noctua would be great. (I’m biased cause my noctua is insane and performs better than some AIO coolers - pic related)
Make sure to also at least get 3000-3466mhz ram if you go with the X - plenty of YouTube videos showing the frame differences with ram speed on ryzen.
Will we see sub-$400 GTX 1080's this black friday?
Lincoln Carter
>order 4pack of 120mm case fans because a 4pk is $8 and you can't get a single >screw hole goes all the way through >need it to be just a bracket so I can mount it as a second cpu fan >get out the hacksaw >saw through the connector in a v shape >the mounting wire goes through and works perfectly >go to put it on my cooler >I cut the wrong side >have to do it again
Oh wait, is it just one of those bigkeys keyboards for enhanced accessibility?
Logan Turner
Intel doesn't have to release 7nm yet since it already btfos ryzen. Zen2 will still be worse than 8700k/9700k
Adam James
but user don't you know that paying more for something that works better is stupid?
Xavier Clark
Corsair spec 05 yay or nay?
Joseph Harris
Nice false flagging. I get it. Ryzen works better than *lake, so you say the opposite. Ryzen is a lot smoother and secure and the SMT gives more performance than it consumes power instead of consuming twice as much power compared to the added performance.
Yes, with finger paint on it.
Probably not other than refurbished ones. Most of the stock is gone. You were warned up this leading up to the RTX release.
Note that you're namely going to get 3466 through a manual OC. Generally of B-die. Some boards have the memory profiles already built in for B-die 3466, which is easy enough.
Jonathan Sullivan
Excuse me which company has the highest performing cpu again?
Josiah Johnson
>ryzen is a lot smoother and secure This meme died a few months ago >consuming twice as much power Says the guy with a vega LOL
Jack Smith
>Funny how these trolls have only showed up in such force since the Coffeelake refresh launched and was such a massive disappointment, oh please you say that shit literally all the time >funny how they came before something, during something, after something even if nothing is happening its >funny how these guys showed up, guess company X I dislike is having a rough time
Levi Gray
power consumption means NOTHING if it's an AMD product "it's not even 2 light bulbs" it means everything if it's an intel or nvidia product though, literally antisemitic with having such ovens in your home, what you planning to use them for huh?!
>Excuse me which company has the highest performing cpu again? AMD with the 2990WX and Epyc 7601. You have a short memory. Maybe you should wrote some notes, or leave some tabs for tests open to review each morning if you're going to keep posting here so you're not wrong all the time.
Do you mean Red Devil? the Red Dragon 580 sucks. Probably cheapest of those. Nitro or Red Devil over Mk2 if it's not much more.
Leo Parker
Is the R5 2600 better than the R7 1700? they have the same price here ($150).
Should I do it while its still cheap!? I know its only ACX 2.0 but All I am going to be doing is 1080p gaming. Is it worth it. Will that be enough with just 1 fan?
Help me with a custom build for my parents. It would basically be an internet+office+lightweight photoshop machine, so I'm thinking it wouldn't even need a discrete GPU and one of those Ryzen APUs + 8 gigs DDR4 on an entry-tier mobo should be plenty
