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Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superseded by 7nm CPUs next year >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best overall and not a massive disappointment like the 9900k >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >FOR GAMING START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately
So I am starting to look at a new build maybe end of this year start of next. Thinking an 8700k and overclock maybe 4.8, not fussed to go all the way to 5.0. Will a DH15 be enough? I am too pussy to delid.
Isaac White
>buying into intel sockets in the year of our lord Late 2018 hope you like dead ends
James Rogers
Shut up shill, its purely for gaming
Ian Foster
D15 will be fine, and pushing overclocks much further is diminishing returns anyway.
Grayson Garcia
Thanks friend
Daniel Williams
>spending $200 more for 5% better performance and this is why people call you retarded
Aiden Ross
>intel
Joshua Roberts
They do? Honestly I am only starting out planning, I may go with a 2700X seems easier to OC. But I haven't looked at this shit in years, still running a 4690K
Is AMD really better than Intel? And if so why? I'm new just to let you guys know.
Dylan Mitchell
gaming at what resolution if above 1080p, a 2700x will give basically equal (plus or minus depending on the game) performance to an 8700k. the only time you would ever go 8700/9900k is if you need 240fps at 1080p for competitive gaming, and even then like I said, the socket has no future. AMD's 3xxx series is 6 months or so away and it's all but guaranteed to blow intel's top-end consumer offerings to pieces.
yes it can, you will have no problems setting a 42x multiplier and getting 4.2ghz across all cores. It just auto OCs better and gives higher single core with PBO.
Sebastian Lewis
>4.2 Wow big deal
Jackson Flores
It's not a good idea, since Intel's chips are housefires sucking down massive watts. Even a mild 4.8GHz OC will likely require absurd cooling, surely a delid.
It's best to see what AMD delivers with 7nm. If those chips can get 4.5GHz+ then they will be the better buy most likely
Logan Nguyen
I meant 2700
At 1080p, with a 1080ti, I want to get over 100 FPS in games like PUBG and Blops 4 maybe, I usually drop the settings also. But also be nice to ultra settings single player games. I will spend about £1500, mobo, CPU, RAM and the GPU, rest I can take out of my current PC, oh and probably a cooler.
Chase Cruz
>>Seagate drive Fuck off with this meme, low end WD are equally shitty.
Blake Anderson
>just wait™ one year for 7nmeme
Joshua Campbell
you're not fooling anybody
Ethan Foster
And yet, most builds here end up with 2TB seagate. Turns out it's you who's not fooling anybody.
Ryan Smith
Which one would Jow Forums get? it's for a memezen 1500x that's currently being raped by cities skylines. I don't care about noise, I just want it to be as cool as possible.
I don't know whats your fucking problem, I literally do not know the answer and I'm new to pc building and I get autist like you on this thread.
Camden Bell
with a 1080ti you'll be pushing ridiculous frames at 1080p regardless of cpu, but if you consider yourself TRULY competitive (as in, you could see yourself putting the time in to become professional) in those games you mentioned, intel 8700/9900k is the better option as of this very moment in time if you need every single competitive advantage (in which case you should get a 240hz refresh monitor) as higher frame rate reduces input delay and in heavily single-threaded games intel can push higher fps at 1080p. this is very likely to not be true in 6 months or so when Zen 2 comes out. those processors also come with a hefty pricetag compared to a 2700x.
Caleb Lee
change that 2700x for a 2700 and the gtx 1080ti for a 2070
Wyatt Carter
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this Yolo I'm going to get one for my 2600x cause I got a bonus for top saleswoman of the month
Ryder Lewis
Why? Knocks £200 roughly unless I get a better 2070 than a gigabyte. Surely the 1080ti will be more future proof? What concerns me is with an 8700K I would need a hefty cooler to OC it, with a 2700(x) I don't and OC only gives 5% and I don't mind losing say 20FPS for the cost.
Adrian Rodriguez
Why One of the few scenarios Coffeelake still makes a lot of sense.
Lucas Ross
i miss the time when motherboards looked like pic rel and were named with random letters and numbers nowadays literally everything has the word "gaming" in it, not to mention the RGB bullshit is there an intel 300-series chipset board without gay men aesthetics?
for reference, i have a 2700x/1080ti and a 1440p165 monitor and easily push 100+ fps in every game I play with very few settings turned down. about 130fps in fortnite during close quarters firefights. 8700k is a housefire without delid, 9900k is worse than that even with soldered TIM kek the wraith prism that comes with the 2700x is actually a really damn good stock cooler. probably a little better than a 212 Evo, personally i didn't want to use it because i was gonna push farther than it would allow OC wise, and it was decently loud. it'll keep you cool at stock PBO though. i went all out with a corsair H150i pro AIO which is super overkill but a 240mm aio or noctua/dark rock would be more than enough for a pretty good OC
Easton Taylor
they were not entirely random, they had the chipset in the name. you're just too dumb to notice.
everything i've seen says they're within margin of error either way if he's gonna OC he'll probably want something beefier than those
Evan Anderson
I've read a few places it is not worth it to OC the 2700x?
Nathan Gonzalez
I want to use the CPU from a prebuilt for a new build, is it possible that the CPU is made specifically for the motherboard in the prebuilt and wont work for another motherboard?
Xavier Flores
>8700k is a housefire without delid It's perfectly fine at 4.8ghz. Take your "mah brand is better than your brand" FUD, and walk off a cliff.
Charles Rivera
recycling CPUs is fine. 3770s from old Lenovos make for good budget gaming components.
Jaxon Bennett
to me it seems kinda pointless to buy flashing LED's if i'm going to hide them inside a case guess i gotta go with the server market to not get memed
Is there such a thing as a Thin-ITX motherboard for AM4? there are some really nice slim HTPC cases i'd like to use.
Dylan Sanders
All prebuilts use off the shelf components. Using propriatary OEM parts would be way too expensive for them to mass produce unless they are Apple.
Aiden Jones
Delidding is definitely beneficial when you start pushing much further north of 4.8 to 5.0 (depending on whether your chip is a rock or a gem), but is absolutely not necessary otherwise. Claims delidding is "necessary" is baseless fanboy FUD. Agreed on saving cash on high end coolers though, as the Wraith Prism is the last cooler you'll need with a 2700X unless you're chasing a more silent setup (claims these coolers are inadequate are also baseless fanboy FUD). Figure on spending $40-60 for an 8700/K cooler on top of the i7 premium over the R7.
Nicholas Jenkins
This is true for CPUs and dedicated GPUs of course but I don't know about motherboards and power supplies. For example, my father had a Dell brand office PC with a Haswell era pentium but the motherboard was some kind of non-ATX form factor that couldn't be mounted in a normal ATX case due to standoff locations. That's a fairly recent example but I'm sure it varies model to model. My point is that as far as I'm concerned I never bet on big name company prebuilts not having some weird shit in them somewhere.
Ayden Gutierrez
>form over function
Luke Ward
so the way the 2700x works is it raises it's clocks based on temperature automatically. so the beefier cooling solution you have, the higher it'll boost itself up to a certain point (without touching bclk which is an entire other subject, max single core boost is 4.35ghz which you should be able to get on the wraith prism no problem, all core depends heavily on cooling solution, mine is around 4.1ghz all core @ 71c under heavy load in Prime95 sffts)
you can also manually multiplier OC it to whatever you want that's stable and will work with your cooler, though this will hurt your game performance as the CPU will not auto boost itself anymore and your max single core clock will be whatever you set the multiplier to. it also won't downclock at idle if you set a manual OC while PBO will.
Carson Garcia
Not him but ironically glass cases/side panels are pretty fucking stupid as far as functionality goes.
Parker Martin
Should I buy a i9-9900k now or wait until AMD steps it up? 9900k seems like it will be the best non-extreme series processor for the next year
Jonathan Ramirez
obviously he is an AMD fanboy. If you actually research the processor you'll find that its fine and you dont really have to worry about delidding, unless you want to overclock and maximize your processor
Cameron Roberts
>or wait until AMD steps it up? You must be delusional if you think zen2 will come anywhere close to 9900k performance
Wyatt Price
not a fanboy, just a big fan of price/performance and sensible buys based on use case
Sebastian Perez
you're delusional if you think the 3700x won't destroy the 9900k on all fronts lmfao wheres the 10nm bro i've been waiting for 3 years
Dominic Harris
As I see it, 2700X I won't have to OC as it has a function similar, I can even stick with the stock cooler or maybe a good air cooler like DH15, or something. If I get that cooler with an 8700K I need to OC it to get the best out of it, and I am not sure I can go 4.8 with an air cooler even like DH15
Joshua Walker
That's what you say every gen lmao. No one is falling for your shit
Can I substitute intake front fans with a desk fan?
Jason Hall
unless it was 32gb you got ripped off
Nathaniel Wright
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
Wyatt Ramirez
9900k has a performance advantage of between 7-15% depending on workload compared to the 2700x, while also having almost 2x the cost of the 2700x, not coming with a stock cooler, and not having a clear upgrade path on their socket.
9900k will not be able to compete with the combined node shrink/IPC increase/frequency increase/architecture refinements that are coming with Zen2. you'll have to face this eventually.
Jonathan Lewis
Whats so great about 32gb? 16gb is enought faggot
Anthony Lee
I'd agree, but I would have bought faster RAM. 4000mhz+ or bust. Unless you're on a strict budget or something
Wyatt Howard
or you can just stop being a faggot, you probably asked this question on other occasions and you've been given plenty of non-server consumer examples
Daniel Kelly
> glass cases/side panels are pretty fucking stupid as far as functionality goes. Less so than Choosing an Ironically ugly case is just stupid as choosing a pubescent teen case. Aesthetics are aesthetics whether for ironic or immature reasoning.
Jonathan Flores
he's bullshitting, not only has it been an extremely long time for 3200CL14 B die to be at $160 but 32GB(4x8GB) quad channel will perform worse than dual channel
Levi Bennett
>Less so than Not really. Most regular panel cases at least have a mounting for an exhaust fan on the side. What the hell does a clear panel offer? It's purely esthetic.
Jaxson Anderson
Why does my SATA 3 SSD have a write speed of 100mb/s when its advertised speed is 400mb/s? I have AHCI mode enabled and I'm only using 40% capacity of the total space.
Noah Powell
what SSD? try googling benchmarks of it
Gabriel Gonzalez
>and I am not sure I can go 4.8 with an air cooler even like DH15 Of coarse you can. What the hell makes you think you can't? The 2700X is definitely better value than the 8700k, but it's also worth looking at the locked 8700 (still boosts to 4.6ghz)for better value. On the same token with Ryzen, it's probably better looking at the 2600X over the 2700X for a gaming system, unless you're a twitch streamer or do a little productivity work aswell.
Alexander Johnson
>assuming it has to be 4 sticks >assuming quad channel is ever a downgrade wow
Sebastian Gray
>coarse Course. Fml.
Isaac Ward
>4 sticks equals quad channel I see what you're saying though, dual rank in a single channel usually performs worse and is harder to clock than single rank per channel.
Asher White
Is there any word on when Asus is releasing their Ryujin AIO? I have a sneaking suspicion that my current one's pump is slowly dying.
Kevin Gonzalez
But what kind of temps that thing going to sit at then? Not only that, I am a retard and the turbo mode shit makes sense for me on the Ryzen.
Josiah Gomez
>have stupid failing meme AIO with pos Asetek pump >want another one epic, simply epic
Juan Rogers
It's a Kingston drive but nvm i read the spec sheet wrong. Im getting the advertised speeds if I use atto instead of diskmark
Austin Powell
>lasted 5 years >looked better during that time than a giant block of metal in the middle of my case ebin xDD
Jonathan Myers
>looksfagging Never gonna make it.
Colton Foster
Anywhere from 70 to 80°C under Prime95, or anywhere from 60 to 70° under a gaming load. This is with reasonable fan speeds that aren't too loud.
Luis Perez
What's the best phanteks case model? Or other brand cases that are SILENT and have good airflow. Think bang for buck wise.
Sitting on a 5 year old fractal define r2 rn. It's good but some features are getting annoying, Really don't care about leds and the stupid shit.
Ethan Ramirez
Go watch a few gamers Nexus videos. Asking here will just get loaded opinions
Luis Rivera
Phanteks enthoo pro
Sebastian Johnson
Intel is really old my dude, like when you hear intel you think of some ancient Atari console and shit. Ryzen sounds fresh and new. The only people who buy Intel are mostly people over the age of 70.