Is arch just a meme?

>but I do not want to spend time dealing with distros needing a lot of maintenance.

What are you talking about? I use arch for a year now and the only maintenance i have to do is update it. I don't know if i got lucky and didn't run into any problems but is seems really stable to me.

It’s a good meme and I used it for about two years until I switched to Debian. I liked it and didn’t have too many issues.

>arch
>server

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Not trying to start a war. I'm sure it's a good distro, I've just heard that there is more of an up front and ongoing time commitment (on average!) compared to the more prebaked solutions by canonical, red hat etc.

The meme is about buttblasted mint and noobuntu shitters who parrot the same "pacman fucked my xorg.conf" maymay from 2009 in hope that they will look smarter than the Arch user, which usually has well over 120iq and uses Arch on daily basis because Arch IS the best distro.

Arch is terrific
all around reccommend

I like it. The package manager, pacman is really fast and I like the fact that it's rolling release and being at the latest. The AUR is incredible, once you have tried out Arch, it's hard to like any other distro. It's not suitable for servers tho. I use Debian for that.

Are is pretty bad for servers, unless it's you are using it on daily basis to develop and test various things. It should never be used if you want stability and reliability (production)

It's great if you want:
>to have more control
>to learn about your system
>to build and customize your distro from ground up
>want bleeding edge packages
>often test and use a lot of various software, libraries and scripts(AUR has everything you'll ever need)

It's fast, it's up-to-date, no bloat, no corporate crap, best wiki and the whole "it breaks" thing is le epic reddit maymay by some idiots who can't even use ubuntu

People with actual fucking jobs use debian, fedora and so on.

and blue/cyanpilled

This but unironically

i've used it as my first gnu/linux and used it for two years as my main OS. it's good as a concept of being a simple minimal rolling-release distribution, however when I've realised that void linux is what arch wishes to be but can't because of long unsolvable problems with it, i switched. i miss AUR though.

can you explain what long unsolvable problems you're talking about

gentoo > arch in every way

I mean if you want to profit off of using Linux you might as well just buy Red Hat for the tech support.

In my limited experience, installing it takes a while because you have to do many things "manually", but after that I didn't have any problems. Like the other dude says, you can update the OS but it's literally one command and it's never broken anything for me.
The Arch meme is funny but it's an exageration.

>no bloat

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Posts like these are the reason everyone mocks arch and its obnoxious userbase

I would never run Arch on a work machine I had to depend on.
However, I run it on my "fuck around" laptop and like it.

Just follow a YouTube guide, the installation takes less than 20 minutes

i guess you meant it for my post here's some of them:
>systemd
>AUR chaos (i know i said i miss AUR but it's part of problem nonetheless)
>bloated packages
>"bleeding edge" causing system to become dysfunctional if you don't upgrade it for a long time
>no distinction between free and proprietary software in repos
these are what i can think of right away but there are more if you look closer into it. basically what arch wants to be, what arch is and how arch is marketed are three different things. on the other hand void is minimal and just works.

Complete waste of time. There's nothing worthwhile you can do on Arch that you can't do from a minimal install of Debian.

I hate when debiantards spew this nonsense when all it's package are disgustingly out of date. It's so obvious that all you guys do is jerk off to porn you core2duo thinkpads. Arch with the aur gives me accesses to all the update software I need for work with zero hassle. Even fedora is kind of pain when you need to hunt down rpm packages.

Complete lie. Arch is the only stable rolling release woth up to date software. Debian unstable is a complete mess whose packages are still behind Arch's. If you don't want any hassle worth audio codes and free software autism arch is also the best choose.

>spending some time babying the system.
There's rarely any need to do anything beyond updating.I've got some 5+ year old installs on machines I barely use.Having to boot them up weekly gets a little annoying, but that's about the extent of the problems they've given me. Almost all Linux distros are stable unless you dive into them like a ricing autist. Every tweak you make to a system introduces an opportunity for errors and a bad time overall.

>I'd say as a server it's completely useless
Most of the software you'd be using in a server is time tested and very unlikely to see anything dramatic in terms of updates. Most updates will only contain security patches for a given software so you're unlikely to have any issues. There's very little to break when you're running a non-gui program that rarely has new features added.That being said, I'd still recommend installing Ubuntu server. It's built by pros and there's tons of documentation.

>no bloat
>doesnt even separate packages into -bin, -doc, -dbg, -dev
you should stop taking Jow Forums memes as facts, my dude

it's not bad. just a linux OS with package manager like all the rest.

Agree. Big fan of debian on servers. It's complete garbage on a desktop because packages are out of date.
Enjoy using inscure third party repos and building from source.

Arch is easier to run on a desktop than debian.

gentoo gives you a mental disorder in the first 2 years of usage
read the small text

It isn't even a meme, it just sucks
>Seems great if you are interested in learning and spending some time babying the system.
The issues are that you're not learning anything of use, instead you're just learning hot to handle Arch and it's lazy and retarded implementations. Especially beginners will have more things broken than on other distros

>it's never broken anything for me.
>it's an exageration.
So which one is it

>stable
>up to date software
Arch's "stable" has a different meaning from other distro's stable.

It is good except for systemd.

>put ubuntu on usb key
>*click click click*
>system ready in 10 minutes
>will last you for the next six years without a hitch

>put arch on usb key
>*clickety clickety clickety*
>system ready in two hours
>will last you for the next six months without a hitch

>instead you're just learning hot to handle Arch and it's lazy and retarded implementations.
Replace Arch with Linux in that statement, and you'll sound exactly like a Wangdows user giving his "expert" opinions on operating systems.

But then the statement would be wrong.

That's the point slowmo

I use both. They're great operating systems. I don't understand where you get that there is some sort of drastic difference between the two beyond the installation method.Why do people insist that new packages and kernels are sooooooo unstable? It's not as though developers just fling their shit into the breeze and hope it sticks to something.

Same here. Ricing is fun but Windows let's me do things. I'm a game dev too so not much use in using linux other than server stuff if I want to save time

arch is a Jow Forums troll, get ubuntu, mint, or debian.

Ubuntu doesn't even have 6 years of support cycles you absolute mongoloid

then install antergos or majaro, or use archbang.

it's the only good

no blot mean sane dependancies salty plebian

>two hours
>for 1 (one) command
wew how retarded is you?

lol, you can't install arch on one command you absolute gnu fucker.

stop embarrassing yourself before i whip out my katana

that's not a very samurai attitude.
you should be ashamed.

Debian:
>no packages or very outdated
>have to compile shit by hand
>have to install -dev packages for everything
>have to add unofficial repos to install shit
>eventually you start getting conflicts
>try to resolve
>shit just gets worse and worse until people's response is "just reinstall lol"

Arch:
>has a package for everything you'll ever want + the godlike AUR for infinite packages
>upgrade once in a while to get new features
>fast as fuck, doesn't get in your way, eventually you even forget you're using it
>0 (zero) problems

>you should be ashamed.
>thinks installing A is rocket science
nou :^)

A good meme

Yeah, I love the cusomization I get, and the bleeding edge model. Never had any instability issues myself

>le systemd

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lack of openrc or runinit makes it shit.

>not using Parabola GNU/Linux

1 aur/openrc 0.38.1-1 (+35 0.47%)
Dependency based init system that works with sysvinit.
==> Packages to install (eg: 1 2 3, 1-3 or ^4)
==>

Use artix if you want openrc.

linux is a meme. Primary use: showing off on Jow Forums and passerbys

I did learn how to install and configure it, but it never worked 100% of the time. And I'd say I'm pretty competent with computers. If you're too much of a brainlet, install Manjaro. Never had any hiccups unique to Manjaro and it's actually configured correctly.

Also, servers.

no. pacman is garbage, systemd is garbage. the only thing this distro has going for it is up to date packages, and even that isn't unique. any distro can do this with a little thing called "curl" and "make". it's a forced meme that was propagated on r/unixporn and now lives in the desktop threads. it's worthless and fulfills no use case.
>arch
>servers
>no bloat
>no corporate crap

>systemd
CHILL ON THE WORD 'GODLIKE' BUDDDDD.

>pacman is garbage, systemd is garbage.
Wow, great arguments!!

>Any distro can do this with a little thing called "curl" and "make"
Every distro is deep down the same, what changes is the comfort you have with it... I would MUCH rather install pre-packaged software or an AUR package than
- Google the software
- download the sources
- read the manual
- install dependencies
- make
- install

The comfort Arch gives you is off the charts compared to this

It's funny seeing "unironically" becoming like "fucking"

You just fucking put it everywhere,
except now you just unironically put it everywhere

But apparently you have enough time to post about your operating system preferences on Jow Forums

its unironically better than people saying literally better

As someone new to Linux, my experiences with Ubuntu, Fedora and Debian made me hate it but then I installed Arch and everything made sense, now I even spend more time on Arch than on Windows.

You mean Debian has a different definition of stable than what any non-debiantard has of the word. Stable to most people means it works well and does what you want. For the braindead Debian maintainers and it's equally pathetic userbase it means you get to deal with the same trash bugs for three years.

Same here, the other distros have much of the stuff I dislike about Windows

Me too. Arch is simple and easy to use and never breaks. It's a bitch to install but after you're done it's hassle free. I tried to use Fedora on my laptop and I was completely unproductive for a week trying to get all the software I need. As far as I'm concerned arch is only distro that got it right.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to install Arch. The wiki is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of computer science most of the steps will go over a typical users head.

would you say arch is good for a pi/iots device ?
or is it strictly for desktoping with decent specs?
just curious

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>"just reinstall lol"
My Debian sid desktop has been running for 8 years. Why would I reinstall?

Some people need to get work done. They use their desktops for more than just jerking to hentai and watching anime. I know that's hard for a Debian user to grasp.

>2018 AD
>Still no graphical installer
>"B-but you're not supposed to reinstall it all the time so we're not going to make a GUI"
>Devs themselves use install scripts to get their shit done
lmao

>is it a meme
>is it any good
It's a good meme

It doesn't need a lot of maintenance. It only takes longer (one evening instead of one hour) to install. After you're done it's just like every other distro.

t. someone who has been running the same arch install since 2013

Definetly good for them.

I use Arch Linux ARM on my Raspberry Pi 3.
No heatsink, no cooler.

I download a shitload of torrents, watch them with kodi/omxplayer, I even stream my computer's audio to it in realtime, no delay or hiccups at all, it's all very fast.

The do-it-yourself thing is an integral part of Arch. You can set it up in any way you want. People enjoy that. You just sound like someone who wants to use Arch but finds it too dificult to install when really it is not.

Alright ill give it a go.
Rasp came recommended for pi so i went with it but compiling is so fucking tiresome even for niche applications, so Arch is looking very tempting.

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Just make sure to download the ARMv7 version.

The v8 works but it's not as polished

>You can set it up in any way you want.
You can set up Ubuntu in any way you want.

You can just use Antergos. It let's you install arch with any desktop you want. It's a little buggy but when it works , you get a nice pain free arch install.

>You can just use Antergos. It let's you install arch with any desktop you want. It's a little buggy but when it works , you get a nice pain free arch install.
What's the advantage over a custom Ubuntu setup?
Minimal Ubuntu is smaller than minimal Arch too.

But I would have to uninstall al the stuff it comes preinstalled with, that's not very efficient

>But I would have to uninstall al the stuff it comes preinstalled with,
No. Just bootstrap it.

It's great, scroll up and read...

Just stay with Ubuntu if you're that much of a Ubuntu fanatic... Stop trying to find a loophole

>MUH BYTE COUNT
Found the hdlet

Up to date packages , access to the aur, and hassle free installation of all the popular desktops , I think they even have an i3 config.