>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >avoid AMD if gaming at all cost >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >i5 9600k - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7 8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superseded by 7nm CPUs next year >i7 9700k- Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >i9 9900k - Surely the best overall >i9 7900x- HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >FOR GAMING START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately
1. i can't even get a Mugen 5 at the moment, let alone swap the fan. 2. Getting b-die seems to be highly luck dependent and 3. it's roughly 60 euro more expensive than regular 3200.
Noah Campbell
Don't think that would follow the rules, to have duplicates of the same thread outside of bump limit.
Clearly this OP is trolling and might get deleted due to that, but yeah.
Artic 33 isn't much worse, and is cheaper. But it's not enough for that housefire CPU. >Getting b-die seems to be highly luck dependent The fuck gave you that idea? Do some more research. >it's roughly 60 euro more expensive than regular 3200. And the 8700k is roughly 60 euro more expensive than the 3700X. What's your point? If you cared about cost you wouldn't be getting an 8700k. If you care about performance you'd be getting B-die.
This has already been clearly explained to you in previous threads.
Nathan Torres
Is PCpartpicker to be trusted when it comes to components fitting in a case? I want to get an NH-D15 noctua cooler to fit in my Meshify C case and pcpp says that is should fit okay.
>pay 2k for a monitor >buy a "placeholder" keyboard
Hunter James
in games they're pretty much equal but the 1060 uses less electricity. the nano is better at workstation stuff.
Joseph Robinson
/thread
Adam Brown
Okay, what the fuck are you gonna DO with 8 monitors?
Lincoln Thompson
I am not going to buy a keyboard without feeling it first. I just wanted something to represent the price somewhat.
8 wood cutting alt accounts in Runescape
Camden Cox
Got anything in mind for your keyboard?
Josiah Jones
Upgrading from my current PC (built in 2009 and somewhat upgraded since then, before that had a 633MHz Celeron with 256MB DDR and a 40GB IDE):
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G (replaced something else) AMD Athlon X2 5200+ (upgrade from 4200+) XIGMATEK AIO-S80DP All-in-one liquid cooling system HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB (upgrade from HD 4830) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-120G-G25 2.5" 120GB SATA III Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM Newer PSU, forget name Some ricer case from 2009 (red stainless steel front, glass side with LED 200mm fan, circular LCD in the front with fan speed/temps, little knob to control fan speed) "Famous Brand" TSS-27X11 LED Black 27
Reusing a case I found in a dumpster (it has a place to mount a 240mm AIO radiator, which I plan to get at some point), and the same SSD/HDD/PSU, I just got these:
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 570 4GB Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 3000 (Open box) ASUS X370-A Ryzen 3 1200
How did I do? Main reason for upgrade is frequent kernel panics and the GPU crashing, and I think there are literal bugs in the CPU fan. The game I play most is Alpha Centauri, which should still be fine, but it would be cool if I could get AoE III and Civ IV running nicely.
Adrian Jones
They were both most likely used for mining so I would get the one that's been out on the market for less time.
Aaron Harris
Nothing specific. Something similar to Cherry MX blue but less noisy, and red LED backlit. Needs a num pad.
Cooper Fisher
just buy a white keyboard without any stupid shit and branding for 5 bucks, it will function exactly the same way
Jose Reed
I night just use my old Packard Bell rubber dome kb. It feels pretty good.
Nathaniel Myers
Double check it yourself.
>twin 1060s um. 3 1060s won't support 4x 1080p@144 each, as far as I'm aware? Max support is 8k@60. Divide that up and you get 1080p@240, or 2x 1080@120 You almost surely need to go AMD (or Quadro) for that sort of display support, as far as I'm aware.
Jayden Baker
Browns is what you want.
Xavier Kelly
Aright, was considering this upgrades it.pcpartpicker.com/list/pmJ3Bb Case is pic related(old and didn't personally assembled this so i don't even remember the name of the model), planning to keep using it Same for SDD and 2 HDDs, just gonna format for new OS (not original Windows 7 copy running at the moment) Budget is around 800 euros, there is an RX580 Nitro+ for 220 on Amazon but for some reasons pick my parts can't fetch that so the 253 euro one is placeholder RX570 4GB are around the same prices I am not sure about 1500X vs 1600 but 2600 is 80 euro more expensive
3 1060s won't support 4x 1080p@144 each, as far as I'm aware? Max support is 8k@60 I didn't even think about refresh rate support. I knew it could handle the resolution but it makes sense that 144Hz might exceed the specs. I'll look into that.
Jayden Brown
is 60-70°C under load housefire? i'm not planning to push for 5ghz. 4.5, 6, 7 should be more than enough. i'll be running into a GPU bottleneck way sooner than a CPU one.
>Get the O-rings if you find the sound annoying I like the sound but my guys can hear it over chat.
Alexander Barnes
I may have done math wrong. But it depends on a number of things like display connectors, too. Nvidia consumer GPUs have always been behind on display support to the point that they don't even clearly list max display support specs. I guess 8k@60 should actually mean 4k@240, or 4x 1080p @ 240? But it's not as simple as that and a search doesn't bring it up easily as 4x 1080p 144hz monitors per card isn't a common use case with a 1060.
Um no. Like 80-85C on a burn test is fine. Though not going over 60 or 70 in normal gaming usage is more "comfortable". >good/low/very good chance to get a b-die Unless something changed recently, 3200 CL14 kits are guaranteed to be B-die.
Eli Bell
Tell them to deal with it then
Nolan Turner
What are some Jow Forums approved mATX cases? Fractal design meshify C mini seems alright but it's barely smaller than an ATX enclosure.
Just bought the Samsung J590 because it was 450 aud (320 usd) I have a gtx 1080 and I'm guessing I wont be able to play many games at 4K aside from emulators. do most games have support for >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or do I need to set a custom res in nvidia settings and change it from 4k every time I need to play a game?
Welp. The Cryorig C1 fan uses a proprietary mounting screw. Doesn't screw in all the way so doesn't hold the new Noctua fan flush. It's just hanging by the screws sticking out. I would need washers if I wanted to do it "correctly". Not real issue with it, though.
I'd use Virtual Super Resolution and just set your desktop to 1620p if you can. That makes the least headaches. Not sure if non-standard resolutions are supported in it, though.
This is technically a windows issue and not DSR/VSR issue.
Fractal cases all seem to run a bit bigger than average but they're so nice
Jeremiah Martinez
Wash your hands filthy pajeet
Noah Cox
An element has been inspected
Thomas Nguyen
Anybody got a build for the most low cost PC you can possibly build with a Ryzen board? Wanna help my buddy out because he's still using a laptop from 2006 because he's poor. Want something that can be upgraded in the future but is a bare minimum for an office PC. I've done it a few times on PCpartpicker but I'm really bad at optimizing builds. Does Ryzen have integrated video chips at all? I'm still using an FX chip myself so idk anything about this shit.
why would you keep more than a couple grand in your PP? [spoiler]>implying it's real[/spoiler]
Landon Clark
I know this is bait but if anyone kept this much money in something as financially insecure as fucking PAYPAL they're clinically retarded. I barely trust BANKS with my money, let alone services that can take all your money and ban you for any reason whatsoever. I never keep more than a few grand in the bank at all times. I keep most of my money in cash, in a safe, next to a wall of guns.
Robert Thomas
how did I do anons? I'm still waiting on a few of my 8TB easystores to go on sale but this is going to be a new plex box.
Ditch the Intel and Nvidia. It's a waste of money, and nvidia is dogshit for Linu- >buying windows 10 and giving microsoft money At least pirate it you poor stupid fuck. It's not even a proper copy it's a crippled OEM license. Seriously, if you're gonna use Windows, pirate it, ditch the Intel and buy better parts.
how point of this is to draw as minimal power as possible while also able to transcode when needed.
hoping plex gets off it's ass soon and brings in amd gpu transcode support because right now its none exsistant
Jackson Mitchell
What makes the intel worst than its (I'm assuming) AMD counterpart?
Adrian Miller
ebin
Jaxon Richardson
Yo how much porn you download mate? Go see a doctor
Adrian Clark
Just to make it obvious bait, I'd assume.
Would use a faster HDD when there is no SSD... And SRM-01 for case.
Depends on tier of product. At yours.. you poor lad, having a 6600k. It's inferior even to a 1600 that you can get for like $100, not that anyone would really recommend that for gaming either. Sell it then start over.
It's worse because 4 threads is going to be a stutterfest.
Liam Price
Yeah, I wanna see her feminine penis.
Levi Sullivan
Thanks user, you're the best. Bookmarked. It's overpriced for one, and secondly Ryzen chips are far superior for price/performance ratio. Intel really dropped the ball this gen. I was always anti Intel (not neccesarily pro AMD) but even I would admit that AMD chips were dogshit last gen, especially in single instruction performance, and this is coming from someone who used them. Ryzen is a meme but it's a REALLY GOOD meme. I know tons of people who invested and are really happy. If I were you I'd get an equivalent or better ryzen chip, and ditch the nvidia card for a higher end AMD card because not only is it cheaper, it has better Linux support assuming you would ever want to try it out. I'm not one of those people who wants to scream at you for using Windows but please don't give them money, especially for a gimped OEM key. You're getting a 1440p monitor, and those specs you provided are insufficient for it, which is why I think you should go for the cheaper but better option.
Hello fellow MicroATX fan. There's a nice Silverstone case you have there! I'd go for mATX for better CPU and GPU temps, but they all seem so big and bulky when compared to micro itx enclosures. Do you have any small mATX/MicroITX case reccomendations?
I can mostly agree, as someone who has 4 AMD CPUs, and 3 Intel ones, over the past 25 years. Had A pentium 3, which sucked ass. Was all AMD for a while, as they were vastly superior. Got a E8400 because Intel was actually the best budget option then. That was actually quite a nice CPU for the time. Then... it was Sandy Bridge vs Bulldozer, and obviously Sandy Bridge was better, right? So I got a 2500k. I was immensely disappointed in that CPU. 2500k on Windows 7 felt slower than even my old single core Athlon felt on Win2k. Every other time that I built a PC since 2000, I felt it was immediately so fast, but not that time. I was stuck on it for a while, because no upgrade options felt good and required a new board. It was such a stutterfest. Conversely.. a lot of people on Bulldozer seemed fine with the lower FPS because it was at least smooth. Something about AMD's architectures, not just the higher core counts at times, seem to make them smoother. But objectively, measurably, AMD's SMT is a lot better than garbage HT.
The one I have. The FT-03. My CPU is 37-43C (1600X) at around 7-12% load. It's got very good cooling for a case with a small footprint. But at 28 liters, it's not actually that small as it's quite tall. I'm going to be replacing the rear 120mm fan as well. It's the loudest fan in my case now that I replaced the CPU fan...
I gave you other recommendations in the previous thread. If you don't like them, dunno what to say. Cerebus is probably the most compact option I can think of. It's 18L. It's also super expensive. Thermaltake G3 is actually a full ATX case that you could put a mATX or mITX board in. It's only 23L. But it won't fit a really thick GPU.
Easton Anderson
>tfw you just snagged a 8700k for 300 >+60 import fee
Nathaniel Lee
Why not swap out the 1TB HD for a cheap m.2 SSD? That would give a noticeable boost to speed.
For slightly more money, you could also swap out the 2200G for a 1200 (which overclocks well with the stock cooler) and pick up a RX 560. Works out to $423 with the rest of your picks being the same (besides swapping an MSI B350M board), before MIR.
Noah Sanders
If they're the same price, RX 580 or GTX 1060 6GB?
Angel Barnes
Condolences.
cause the user is mega poor
Depends on model as well (how good and quiet the cooler is), but generally still the RX580 for Freesync support and because AMD cards typically "age" better as games become steadily more compute rather than raster heavy, plus the better DX12/Vulkan support.
Isaac Nelson
thoughts on this cute gaymen phanteks case? 70 burgerdollars sounds like a good deal
Its an RX 580 Asus Strix and GTX 1060 6GB Evga SSC
Adrian Diaz
It's ok.
Adrian Fisher
If I have a ryzen CPU and AMD card would I see any decrease in performance of I used Linux vs if I use Windows?
Oliver Perez
Thx for the advice regarding cases, buddy. I'll see if there are any black friday deals on any of them.
Carter Turner
GTX 1060 if you use emulators otherwise the RX 580
William Miller
For only $30 more, you could get an RX 560 and an M.2 SSD:
pcpartpicker.com/list/mLF2YT
Parker Watson
>nvidia is dogshit for Linu- why do people say this? Nouveau works great these days and the nvidia-settings tool is great with the official driver.
Connor Bell
>>avoid AMD if gaming at all cost lol get fucked
Jacob Perry
Can your firend just salvage HDD from their laptop or something? Paying $22 for a 500Gb HDD seems like a complete waste. For around $65 you could get a 480Gb SSD instead and not need the shitty HDD at all? That would only increase your total cost by $20. Same model of SSD. The 480Gb one has better $/Gb.
HDDs in a desktop is shit and should be avoided at all costs. Also, make sure you buy that board fast while it's on sale. That's $25 cheaper than normal. Other parts you could wait until black friday to see if there are better deals. >For only $30 more, you could get an RX 560 and an M.2 SSD: >pcpartpicker.com/list/mLF2YT That is interesting, though I'd still get the 480Gb Silicon Power instead. You could also say that for $50 more you could get an RX570 and have double the performance as well... though the CPU is going to bottleneck it.
You mean 1060 if you use Cemu. Pretty much everything else is good with an AMD GPU.
Jose Butler
What makes the 1060 better for emulators?
Nolan Nelson
ignore the OP, it was made by an intard
Carson Ortiz
>waaay more people use Nvidia GPUs than AMD GPUs Why is this?
Ayden Wilson
The reason I chose the 1200 is that you can get a stable OC of 3.8 or 3.9GHz on the stock wraith cooler, at which point the GPU is the bottleneck and the 560 can handle most things decently.
I never buy cases though, I just go dumpster diving or hunt FB market and craigslist. I'm building a pretty nice gaming PC for about $450 since I found the case, PSU, HDs for free.
Jackson Williams
AMD's OpenGL driver is fairly slow. Cemu is demanding and uses OpenGL. A lot of other emulators are either less demanding and/or they use Vulkan.
It's not like Nvidia GPUs are without issues, either.
>Why is this? Marketing. Why else would only consumers buy Nvidia products, but Sony, MS, Apple, etc, will not?
because they don't know any better user. marketing is the drug of the uninformed. advertising is the greatest lie ever told. those who don't know how to think are doomed to use products and services that are inferior.
much like OP, they are all faggots.
Cameron Gomez
>buying legit windows >buying home edition
Brandon Baker
>browses Jow Forums >doesn't know how to reverse image search nigger
Adam Moore
>R5 2600x is just R5 2600 with .2 more GHz and a better cooler Am I missing something? What's the point in it?
Jaxon Jackson
Marketing scam. It's also running much hotter because it's 95w instead of 65
Daniel Roberts
Because they are better?
Gavin Nguyen
,2 more GHz increases the tdp by about half What the fuck
