Graphene

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is this really the material of the future of is it going be found to be toxic/dangerous especially when it breaks?

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Carbon Nanotubes are going to be the new asbestos

but asbestos was used and installed by tens of millions of day laborers, and carbon nanotubes (and graphene) are used by engineers in highly controlled and stable environments.

>and graphene) are used by engineers in highly controlled and stable environments.
did you not see the video? if they put it in cars, then it'll be in traffic in public. if some car accident occurs, alls the broken graphene will contaminate the environment around it.

yes and when they degrade through normal wear and tear producing free floating carbon nanotubes and people die from whatever name they give the new lung disease it will essentially be the new asbestos.

That shit doesn't degrade over time, you can't process it out of your body, if it gets into the environment in large numbers it will never go away. So I guess that would actually make it asbestos plus micro-plastics all rolled into one.

>touch pencil, detaching a couple layers of graphene
>get lung cancer

pencils use graphite

>pencil
graphite =/= graphene

Graphite is layered graphene. The first production method of graphene was literally taking apart the layers.

only specifically a certain type of layering which is impossible to make "accidentally". you need to read more.

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it's not fucking string cheese

>you can't process it out of your body
[citations needed]
confirmed for being a total retard who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.

Get out of here I don't know what lizard people you work for, but the semiconductor industry isn't going to tolerate any of your bullshit.

scientificamerican.com/article/carbon-nanotube-danger/

>stable environments
What can carbon nanotubes be used for in a horse barn?

oh boy, Jow Forums sure is flooded with schizos today. now fuck off out of here you mongoloid.

>play with pencil
>accidentally create a perfect single atom layer of graphene arranged in an hexagonal lattice

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>single atom layer [...]
literally nobody but you specified this autism.
his point was that graphite is already in crystalline form and that you can break the crystals apart into graphene
it's precisely because this process produces such tiny sheets that it's so goddamn useless.

>literally nobody but you specified this autism.
it's not graphene until it's perfect like that you mongoloid. otherwise it's still graphite.

>his point was that graphite is already in crystalline form and that you can break the crystals apart into graphene

>squeeze pencil
>get diamond

this is what you sound like, this is how retarded you are.

Who the fuck are you to say that I didn't generate graphene by scraping it against literally anything?
Researchers produced it using ADHESIVE.
That doesn't stick layers together. It pulls them off, easily at that.

You lack critical thinking.

>>squeeze pencil
>>get diamond
>What can carbon nanotubes be used for in a horse barn?
>it's not fucking string cheese

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>he still doesn't understand the difference between graphite and graphene
holy fucking shit

>he STILL doesn't understand how fragile graphite is and how easily graphene can chip off
holy fucking shit

>how easily graphene can chip off
we are talking about you claiming that you can accidentally turn a pencil from graphite to graphene.

graphene has been the material of the future for the past 20 years
let me know when we get there

First of all, I'm not even him, and second of all you're moving the goalposts by not even defining what "accidentally" means
If I can scrape a pencil against goddamn anything and chip off a piece of graphene I consider that "accidental".

Whatever retarded fairy land you live in where accidental means "created by nature with absolutely no interaction from anything even the wind" I don't want to live in.

>chip off a piece of graphene
you're starting with pencil graphite. when did you create graphene to chip a piece of graphene off?

So is carbon fiber dangerous, but we dont put tons and tons of carbon fiber sheetrock insulate every fucking building out there do we?

Carbon nanotube applications are so niche that your regular mouth breather will never get nearly enough exposure to kill them. And i really doubt we will ever move on to making anything out of carbon-nanotube fiber in our lifetime.

did you see the video? what happens when cars that have graphene parts are in a collision?

>pretending to be retarded and trying to play semantics and word games because you obviously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
You're not even trying anymore.

what semantics? you have to explain how you made graphene from a pencil accidentally or by normal use. you think any small piece of graphite is graphene?

I'm gonna dumb this down for you as much as humanly possible, Carbon is the Mexican Food of elements, depending on how it's arranged you get different things, a taco, nachos, and a burrito use the exact same ingredients but they're all prepared differently.

do you understand now?

You can't just take nachos and smash them into mush and call it a burrito, just like you can't chip graphene off of graphite, the Carbon has to be arranged in a very specific way or it's just a lump of graphite.

carbon fiber is coated in massive amounts of resin when it reached the public, it's not going to break off into carbon nanotubes.

Nothing because even /diy/ will tell you that you're a goddamn pussy for trying to clear ONE attic filled with asbestos insulation with a full on nanoparticle mask and suit.

>some people on a DIY board say you should just handle asbestos without protection so it must be true
yeah legit as fuck bro

I'm going to dumb this down as much as possible
You have GRAPHITE
A SUBSECTION of GRAPHITE has a CRYSTAL STRUCTURE that is ARRANGED IN A VERY SPECIFIC WAY as to RESEMBLE MULTILAYER GRAPHENE
You SCRAPE GRAPHITE against ANYTHING
and the SECTION RESEMBLING MULTILAYER GRAPHENE breaks off and forms ACTUAL GRAPHENE


Jesus Christ. How fucking stupid do people have to be?
Do you think that the crystal structure of graphene is fucking amorphous glass?
Are you incapable of thinking in microscopic scales?
Do you think that EVERY MATERIAL is like man-made single crystal silicon?

oh boy, the brainlet is foaming at the mouth and is now even using CAPS to compensate for his lack of understanding.

literally not possible to accidentally scrape off a sheet of graphene, you cannot get the crystalline structure from brute force.

oh man the retard who needed caps to emphasize the most important points is offended by the special care he evidently needs and strikes back in contempt

lmao look at this retard.
>take a bunch of carbon powder
>shake it up
>accidentally create a carbon based life form
wew!

[citations needed]
they got it from tape.
p.s. you're the one trying to prove a negative here.

>comparing a specific crystal structure of a single substance to completely different chemical components made using complex chemical interactions
wew lad brainlet of the year award

>[citations needed]
it's literally what graphene is. you clearly have no idea wtf you're talking about.

Do you understand that the reason asbestos was so dangerous in construction is because you fucking lived in a house that was CONSTANTLY FULL OFF asbestos particles floating in the air BREATHING IT AT ALL TIMES FOR YEARS.

Carbon will fucking kill you its true but you dont live in a cloud of smoke 24/7 do you?

>it's literally what graphene is
that doesn't prove that graphene can't be made from graphite from brute force.

wrong, mesothelioma affected the day laborers who installed asbestos, not the pe

>different chemical components
graphite is not graphene

you don't live in a city?

irrelevant. do you know about traffic being everywhere? do you know that less exposure to toxic waste just means longer time needed until you die?

Graphite and Graphene and Carbon Nanotubes all have the chemical formula 'C'.

not the people who live in houses containing it.
In fact many universities and office buildings still have asbestos in them to this day and nobody is getting sick or sued over it. It's only when you disturb asbestos that it gets in the air (obviously) and gets breathed in.
Asbestos doesn't offgas sharp needle rocks. that'd be retarded.

>still using regular C carbon
>not using ionized C++ carbon

>Asbestos doesn't offgas sharp needle rocks.
We need to develop a type that does this. It would be pretty fucking badass, a rock that literally shoots needles at you.

you just have to impregnate asbestos with a material that constantly expands and contracts, preferably as frequently or as dramatically as possible. Eventually pieces will break off and get carried with the wind.

This process can be optimized by more evenly distributing the expansive material at a more microscopic scale, the way aerogel foams store air.

C# Carbon > C++ Carbon

Hydroskell blows all of these out of the water

Are you sure it Carbon not Cabron?
I am currently learning C++, Cabron

>the market for carbon nanotubes will grow from $6 million in 2004 to more than $1 billion by 2014

so how come I haven't heard of anything made out of these things? There was a ton of hype for them back then, so you'd think they'd be mentioned in ads if they were ever used. Is it because they actually do know how bad these things are and they don't want me to know how I've unknowingly given myself mesothileoma already?

the article is from 2008 it's probably just nonsense speculation

>so how come I haven't heard of anything made out of these things?
can you hear nano sounds? I think not.

anandtech.com/show/13252/hot-chips-2018-nanotubes-as-dram-by-nantero-live-blog
surreynanosystems.com/vantablack
skeletontech.com/ultracapacitor-technology
They're finding uses for carbon nanotubes for literally everything and in literally the least intuitive ways.

this

nanotube pornography when?

ayy baby u wan my femtopenis in ur nanotube

yes but carbon is organic, so breathing it won't be dangerous.

just like methane, or all natural 100% organic arsenic

This is being used in the engine blocks. Specifically, they're using graphene in the turbodiesels and the 2.7l turbo v6s.

Everyone in this thread can relax. Its Ford, Ford never fucking does anything they say they're going to.
>No Ranger Raptor in America
>People asked for a new Bronco for decades
>still no sign of it, and its likely a reskin of a currently existing South American platform
>reused old i4 Mazda blocks, took years to replace them
>claim the turbo V6 is so great that it totally replaces a V8
>new V8 coming for their trucks anyway
Ford is a fucking joke of an auto maker, and they only survive because of the F-150 and fleet sales. They'll never do anything with graphene. They couldn't even made a decent sedan, but hey, maybe you can buy a fucking 4 door hideous Mustang in a couple years.

Henry Ford would kill current management with his own two hands if he saw what the company turned into.

Graphene is not harmful

>No Ranger Raptor in America
Meh
>People asked for a new Bronco for decades
And they're building it for 2019.
>claim the turbo V6 is so great that it totally replaces a V8
Compare the F150 specs. The 3.5L kicks the shit out of the coyote.

crush it and sniff it.

>is this material the future?

Its a meta-material, but yes; its the future.

>is it going to be toxic/dangerous when it breaks?

Its fucking carbon user. The vast majority of life on this planet is based off of carbon. If graphene breaks, its like if your lead pencil broke. Its not toxic unless you decide to eat it or huff graphene. And well, if you do decide do either, then I hope you die--so that we can rid the gene pool of your idiocy.

>Graphite has a layered, planar structure. The individual layers are called graphene. In each layer, the carbon atoms are arranged in a honeycomb lattice with separation of 0.142 nm, and the distance between planes is 0.335 nm.[11] Atoms in the plane are bonded covalently, with only three of the four potential bonding sites satisfied. The fourth electron is free to migrate in the plane, making graphite electrically conductive. However, it does not conduct in a direction at right angles to the plane. Bonding between layers is via weak van der Waals bonds, which allows layers of graphite to be easily separated, or to slide past each other.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite
Secondary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene

If YOU scrape a pencil against something, that's still graphite dipshit. Graphene can ONLY exist if its a single layer of atoms.

Scraping breaks the covalent bonds of the carbon atoms, and then you basically get pieces of graphite.

>Is pure carbon toxic?
Are you retarded or just pretending

We are already huffing car break dust, microplastics not to mention just plain ordinary dust. Might as well ad graphene dust to the mix it isn't going to make a difference.

>carbon
>toxic
lol, you're made out of carbon you fuckin faggot. also we've used it for pencils for 50 years

holy fucking shit
please kill yourselves. don't go back, don't go to /v/, don't go to Jow Forums just fucking take a pencil and put it through your stupid fucking necks you dumb motherfuckers.

this
it's fucking OOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDD
and is slowly, very slowly, coming into usage everywhere.

you're made out of carbon.

better car companies wouldn't be caught dead using shit like this in cars

water is not harmful so go drown in a pool retard

So you're saying the chances of a single layer of graphene produced from that manner is completely impossible?
If you aren't willing to admit that you're completely retarded you'd provide a source to back that claim now.